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camper mirror nuts
Ive noticed that some pictures on here of camper mirrors (the big rectangle ones) show nuts that are bullet shaped. and when i got a set from someone on here months ago, they came with bullet head nuts. I like them, much cooler than regular hexagonal nuts. I think the only place on the mirror they are used is to hold the mirror to the support. does anyone know if the bullet heads are the originals? are they only used in that one place on the mirrors? also, since the bulletheads are dead end nuts, i may have to use washers to take up slack when tightening??? Thank you in advance.
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Re: camper mirror nuts
yes, and yes.
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ha ha, thanks!! one more original part to put on, guess i'm a bit obsessed about that. I'll go clean up the bullet heads then, maybe put them on tomorrow.
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Speaking of bullet heads, I was looking for some polished stainless ones, but could not locate any that fit. I did find some "high crown" nuts (that;s what 'Totally Stainless' called them.....but the thread count was off, and would not thread onto my support arms.
I did locate some stainless "acorn nuts"....that fit, but not high crowns/ bullets...guess what? The thread count that fits my original/dealer option below eyeline mirrors are METRIC...size 10 to be exact. That took me by surprise. Soooo........has anyone ever located some polished stainless high crown/bullet that will thread onto the support posts??? Sorry, don't mean to hi jack. Also, you might want to consider using some nylon washers sandwiched b/t any metal supports and metal washers. Thats how my originals came, and I plan on duplicating that approach. I think it makes adjusting the mirrors easier.
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Ok, one thing leads to another... Now I'm thinking what washers go where and what size to use. Does anyone have pics of the original camper mirror set up. I'd like to see washers, nuts etc.? Thank you!
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if you have a large motorcycle shop nearby they have alot of custom nuts in all shapes and sizes from wild to mild yep even realistic bullet nuts
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That is a great idea....and one I haven't checked out. Thank you.
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Thanks for the pics. it helps alot to see what washers and diameter they are. I didn't know the bullet head nuts were also on the "elbow to brace" connection. I thought they were use on the elbow to mirror connection. and now i know where to get the washers. thank you all for the info and great pics
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I have the same mirrors/nuts as yours there, only mine are painted. But I can assure you that the standard 3/8" coarse thread, "high crown acorn" nuts that I ordered from Totally Stainless would in NO WAY thread onto my support arms. Yes, it blew me away too. I had to spend money to ship them back because I had absolutely no use for them if they wouldn't fit. So I went to a local nut/bolt supplier that I hadn't known about before this. The nut that did thread onto my support arms was definitely metric (#10 coarse IIRC). I did not buy them then because it was a regular acorn vs. High acorn, although it was stainless. Plus, they're a wholesaler, and if I wanted one or four, I would have to buy 25 of them!! ![]() I still have my original acorns, but I really want to upgrade all the h/w on my mirrors to stainless.
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If you are going stainless, you may want to consider some elbows from later 70s vans or trucks since the original elbows are chrome plated and most are rusty. The later trucks and vans as well as some from Dodge and Ford used stainless elbows. Some of those also have one leg of the elbow shorter than the originals which would effectively tuck the mirror head in closer to the door. However, the later elbows are drilled and tapped so you'd have to make inserts out of stainless bolts to use acorn/bullet nuts. |
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I'm subscribed,too. I'm a camper mirror nut. We should start a club!
Oh,wait,I just read this over and I see the topic is the acorn nuts. I never noticed them to be metric. I'm 99.9% sure they aren't. There just was no metric used on American stuff back then. Manufacturers would use unique thread pitches,but I doubt on mirrors
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Now, I say the ones that worked were metric because the nut/bolt wholesaler told me they were. Was he wrong? IDK, all I know is his nuts fit, and the "American" standard nuts from Totally Stainless did not (just to be clear, we are still talking hardware here! ![]() I just have 1 question for you. In all your dis/reassembly of these, have you ever gotten any new acorn nuts, or have you been reusing all the original ones? This is my first go-round with trying to find NEW hardware for these things. My guess is all the original hardware works together, but for some reason, I've been stumped so far with NEW hardware.....shouldn't be this complicated. I only want to go stainless on the nuts/washers/hardware. Actually going to powdercoat the mirror head, elbows and brackets...then have new glass installed. Quote:
SK, Maybe you have hit on it there with the "unique thread pitches". In fact, in trying to resolve this issue, I think I tried to thread my original acorn nuts onto a standard 3/8" course thread bolt from my spare hardware stash, and it did NOT work. So my guess is, if you took just a regular standard 3/8" nut, it would NOT thread onto the support elbow. Yep, went out to my garage and just tried this....it it didn't work. My conclusion: The thread pitch for these nut/thread combinations are somewhat unique, as you have suggested. We have 3/8" threaded studs on the elbows, and a 9/16" wrench size acorn nut that threads onto them....but not onto ANY 3/8" thread/bolt combination. If you stick with the original hardware all around, I think you can interchange at will. It's the introduction of NEW h/w that is causing problems. As I said, shouldn't be this complicated, yet, here I am! ![]()
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The elbows, nuts and washers on my original mirrors were all rusted and the truck spent it's first 3 years in southern California before we moved to Wisconsin in the fall of 1971. It was stored inside our garage in Wisconsin for at least 25 years (that's almost zero miles in 25 years) before I tore into it 2 years ago. I don't want any rust in the future. |
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If you can't find the washers, take a look at www.totallystainless.com. I was able to find some through them that fit. And as I said earlier in the thread, Lowes had the identical nylon washers in stock. And that was another thing about the nut I found at the wholesaler that fit; it wasn't a high crown or bullet type of acorn, but just a traditional rounded head acorn. Think I'll be going to a motorcycle shop next as CDowns suggested......they might even have stainless washers as well. You might try that too. That sounds like a "fresh" truck you've got there, driven for a few years, and then parked. A great project I'm sure....best of luck with it.
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Did some flipping through my catalogs and a lot more through the GM parts Wiki.
The original nut was P/N 331545 It was superseded by P/N 14016610 (3/8-20 LOW CROWN) Unfortunately it is listed as discontinued. But the thread is listed as 3/8-20 not the more typical 3/8-16 UNC or 3/8-24 UNF threads. Hope this helps.
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Ok,that solves it. I'm done reading this thread. It's driving me nuts!
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Thanks for providing it Tim. OK, so, I stand corrected on the metric claim. ![]()
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Ok,they are closer to metric than the available SAE. How's that?
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Oh man, You guys are awesome! now i'm in it deep! All I wanted was a simple answer to a stupid question about a nut! Ohhheee vayyyy!!! Such wonderful info. I haven't revisited the issue in a while but i will keep this thread so I will know what to do when I get there. The weather hasn't copperated much and I haven't been working on the truck much lately. I'm looking forward to spring. Thank you so much for the great info everyone!!!!! I really do appreciate it. The mirrors will look cool with the acorn nuts on there!
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i went to the salvage yard and picked nuts from camper mirrors. I didn't keep track of the year of the trucks, sorry, but came home with 3 different sizes of acorn nuts all off camper mirrors (special K...you're an acorn nut!). the picture is attached, the one on the left worked. I also got the plastic and metal washers. I should be set. I'll post a pic of the finished product
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