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belldar · 08-13-2013, 03:21 PM

Recently purchased a 72 c15 and have a key for the replacement door that was put on but the original ignition keys were lost and could not be found. I figure I will have to drill out my old ignition as I do not have a key to get the old one out unless some one has a really good suggestion for me!!! Where would you recommend getting a whole new ignition and door lock set from? I have found a couple places on line that have the kit for around the $30 range but just want to make sure I get a quality one or are they all the same? Got lucky with me 71 c10 super and it runs and drives great just needs some rust work, and now the 72 c15 is in even in better shape and I am praying it runs! ran when they parked it 6 years ago and lost the keys. I am into both now for under $500 together and may need help deciding when and what to do?!?! Will have to post up some picks later if I can find the time. Would really like to get an ignition and keys coming ASAP so I can see if the old girl runs. Hotwiring didn't go so well.
Thanks

68gmsee · 08-13-2013, 07:31 PM

No need to drill out the old lock. Remove the interior panel and the door lock clip should be accessible from inside. With a flashlight you will be able to see how it's put together.

belldar · 08-13-2013, 07:54 PM

68gmsee that would work toget an original key off the old lock in the door but there is no code on the inner door lock. Just want to get my ignition out!
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swamp rat · 08-13-2013, 09:16 PM

This should help..... I think the guy in the first post can even help out.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...38&postcount=8

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...16&postcount=6

swamp rat · 08-13-2013, 09:16 PM

This should help..... I think the guy in the first post can even help out.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...38&postcount=8

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...16&postcount=6

EDIT: Dang internet is acting up today...

belldar · 08-13-2013, 09:54 PM

thanks for that Swamprat but already searched and found that one and tried it but I do not have the code on my lock. sent it to a lock smith and he just recommended drilling out the ignition. Not what I wanted to do but it will have to be I guess. Even tried some local guys keys in it and no luck. Where would you guys recommend ordering a new ignition and locks? Would like some feedback before I pull the trigger on the ones I found. Driving me nuts not starting the truck! I hope it at least turns over!! May have to get the big wrench out and hand turn to see

**Ol Blue K20** · 08-13-2013, 10:15 PM

Pm lockdoc he'll know what to do ....
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swamp rat · 08-13-2013, 10:32 PM

You can remove the ignition from the dash and replace it with a new one, or better yet go to the parts board and find the guys ( Teeitup, tll74 gdavis Dieselwrencher PICKMUP or specialtyretail ) that part out trucks and ask them for a complete lock and ign set.

EDIT, or just the IGN switch and then order a new lock set from a vender to install on the truck.

Spokanistan · 08-13-2013, 10:34 PM

Drill the lock, and be done with it, or use a hammer and screw driver. You'll waste more time and money than the $8 cylinder costs brand new from GM.
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I just realized how rude that sounded. I apologize for that.

belldar · 08-13-2013, 11:41 PM

Looked at lock docks posts and he has great info but I am going to have to go the Spokanistan rout with it just wish there was a video or picture to show how to do the drill or hammer method so I don't F it up. Just have to be careful and grow some patience I guess. What form or local vendor would be a good one to order my parts from? Since I have an oddball door already I am going to get both new door locks and ignition right off the bat. Was wondering if I drilled a couple small holes in the ignition just to try and locate the spring and use a screw driver to turn the ignition counter clockwise till it comes out or if I still need the damn original key to turn the ignition? I hate how damn easy this could be but how complicated it has become not having the damn key!

**LockDoc** · 08-13-2013, 11:57 PM

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Which door has been replaced? If you want to send me the lock cylinder out of the original door I can make a key for it to see if it will work in the ignition. Shouldn't cost more than a couple of bucks to send it in a padded envelope.

Drilling/big screwdriver/hammer is a crap shoot but it's your truck..

LockDoc

belldar · 08-14-2013, 12:36 AM

lock doc. Should have just contacted you to begin with instead of trying to have a friend of a friend help me with it. Only thing is I am not real sure that the lock I took out will help out as the ignition may have been messed with before. Looks like someone tried to wrench it off before so its a shot in the dark for the lock plus I would have to wait a damn week now to get my lock back from 100 miles away. I am all ears to what else you would suggest and or I can try and get that lock back and sent to you. If you don't mind pm me your address and I will try and get that to you unless someone can think of another way?

belldar · 08-14-2013, 10:08 PM

driver side door was replaced and that's the only key I have is for that

**LockDoc** · 08-14-2013, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by belldar

driver side door was replaced and that's the only key I have is for that

Sorry about the delay. State fair all day yesterday and cruise night tonight....

The passenger side is the one that usually has the code number stamped into it.

PM sent.

LockDoc

belldar · 08-17-2013, 06:31 PM

Lock Doc thanks and I sent you a message back.

Artikgrau325is · 08-17-2013, 07:27 PM

Got a new set of lock cylinders and keys from Wes at Classic Heartbeat, and a new ignition from Autozone. Disconnected the harness from the ignition in the truck, and then drilled out the cylinder, started with a small bit and worked my way up. Slid right out in about 10 minutes, put the new cylinder and ignition in and all was well. Very easy.

The door locks were what gave me a headache, every single one of the bolts that held the panels on were stripped and rusted out.
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**LockDoc** · 08-17-2013, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Artikgrau325is

Got a new set of lock cylinders and keys from Wes at Classic Heartbeat, and a new ignition from Autozone. Disconnected the harness from the ignition in the truck, and then drilled out the cylinder, started with a small bit and worked my way up. Slid right out in about 10 minutes, put the new cylinder and ignition in and all was well. Very easy.

The door locks were what gave me a headache, every single one of the bolts that held the panels on were stripped and rusted out.
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If you drilled the cylinder and it slid right out, why in the world did you saw the switch in half???

LockDoc

Artikgrau325is · 08-18-2013, 11:54 AM

It was a combination of not knowing what I was doing, and getting various bits of advice on here. I cut it first, nothing happened, so I proceeded to drill it out.

Once I got everything apart, it made far more sense. It's kinda one of those things I had to take apart (read:completely destroy) to understand how it works and is assembled.
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twisty · 08-19-2013, 01:26 PM

we pulled the SS cover off the cylinder, unscrewed the bezel as far as it would go and stuck a big screw driver in the key hole. a few good whacks and that sucker came free. i ended up taking the switch apart, pulling the cylinder guts out and reassembling it all. now i can start it with a screw driver until i get my new locks in.

08-13-2013, 03:21 PM	#1
belldar Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: New England, ND Posts: 58	ignition help Recently purchased a 72 c15 and have a key for the replacement door that was put on but the original ignition keys were lost and could not be found. I figure I will have to drill out my old ignition as I do not have a key to get the old one out unless some one has a really good suggestion for me!!! Where would you recommend getting a whole new ignition and door lock set from? I have found a couple places on line that have the kit for around the $30 range but just want to make sure I get a quality one or are they all the same? Got lucky with me 71 c10 super and it runs and drives great just needs some rust work, and now the 72 c15 is in even in better shape and I am praying it runs! ran when they parked it 6 years ago and lost the keys. I am into both now for under $500 together and may need help deciding when and what to do?!?! Will have to post up some picks later if I can find the time. Would really like to get an ignition and keys coming ASAP so I can see if the old girl runs. Hotwiring didn't go so well. Thanks __________________ 1988 1 ton 3+3 custom delux Coming soon(stroked 496) TH400, NP205 14 bolt rear, 60 front 4.56 gears, 6 inch lift 35inch dynapro MTs, pro comp 52 16x8 2.5 backspace

08-13-2013, 07:31 PM	#2
68gmsee Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Centrally located between Houston, Austin and Waco. BCS area. Posts: 7,947	Re: ignition help No need to drill out the old lock. Remove the interior panel and the door lock clip should be accessible from inside. With a flashlight you will be able to see how it's put together. __________________ 68 GMC 250/3 speed Saginaw p/b p/s 69 Chevy 350/350 currently in pieces still lookin for a cab 06 Trailblazer I just want a vehicle that I can work on, that won't talk to me, leave error msgs or keep track of how I drive...

08-13-2013, 07:54 PM	#3
belldar Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: New England, ND Posts: 58	Re: ignition help 68gmsee that would work toget an original key off the old lock in the door but there is no code on the inner door lock. Just want to get my ignition out! Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1988 1 ton 3+3 custom delux Coming soon(stroked 496) TH400, NP205 14 bolt rear, 60 front 4.56 gears, 6 inch lift 35inch dynapro MTs, pro comp 52 16x8 2.5 backspace

08-13-2013, 09:16 PM	#4
swamp rat Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Spanaway Posts: 8,451	Re: ignition help This should help..... I think the guy in the first post can even help out. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...38&postcount=8 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...16&postcount=6 __________________ Mike. Swamp Rat build thread : http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=595019 72 3/4T 4X4 4" BDS Lift 33" BFG's

08-13-2013, 09:16 PM	#5
swamp rat Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Spanaway Posts: 8,451	Re: ignition help This should help..... I think the guy in the first post can even help out. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...38&postcount=8 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...16&postcount=6 EDIT: Dang internet is acting up today... __________________ Mike. Swamp Rat build thread : http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=595019 72 3/4T 4X4 4" BDS Lift 33" BFG's

08-13-2013, 09:54 PM	#6
belldar Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: New England, ND Posts: 58	Re: ignition help thanks for that Swamprat but already searched and found that one and tried it but I do not have the code on my lock. sent it to a lock smith and he just recommended drilling out the ignition. Not what I wanted to do but it will have to be I guess. Even tried some local guys keys in it and no luck. Where would you guys recommend ordering a new ignition and locks? Would like some feedback before I pull the trigger on the ones I found. Driving me nuts not starting the truck! I hope it at least turns over!! May have to get the big wrench out and hand turn to see __________________ 1988 1 ton 3+3 custom delux Coming soon(stroked 496) TH400, NP205 14 bolt rear, 60 front 4.56 gears, 6 inch lift 35inch dynapro MTs, pro comp 52 16x8 2.5 backspace

08-13-2013, 10:15 PM	#7
Ol Blue K20 Proprietor of Dale's Corner Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Vacaville , CA Posts: 16,237	Re: ignition help Pm lockdoc he'll know what to do .... Posted via Mobile Device __________________ "Some Days Chickens And Some Days Feathers" Dale XNGH ECV Sam Brannan 1004 R.I.P. 67ChevyRedneck R.I.P. Grumpy Old Man R.I.P. FleetsidePaul

08-13-2013, 10:32 PM	#8
swamp rat Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Spanaway Posts: 8,451	Re: ignition help You can remove the ignition from the dash and replace it with a new one, or better yet go to the parts board and find the guys ( Teeitup, tll74 gdavis Dieselwrencher PICKMUP or specialtyretail ) that part out trucks and ask them for a complete lock and ign set. EDIT, or just the IGN switch and then order a new lock set from a vender to install on the truck. __________________ Mike. Swamp Rat build thread : http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=595019 72 3/4T 4X4 4" BDS Lift 33" BFG's

08-13-2013, 10:34 PM	#9
Spokanistan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: UW Seattle, WA Posts: 10	Re: ignition help Drill the lock, and be done with it, or use a hammer and screw driver. You'll waste more time and money than the $8 cylinder costs brand new from GM. Posted via Mobile Device I just realized how rude that sounded. I apologize for that.

08-13-2013, 11:41 PM	#10
belldar Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: New England, ND Posts: 58	Re: ignition help Looked at lock docks posts and he has great info but I am going to have to go the Spokanistan rout with it just wish there was a video or picture to show how to do the drill or hammer method so I don't F it up. Just have to be careful and grow some patience I guess. What form or local vendor would be a good one to order my parts from? Since I have an oddball door already I am going to get both new door locks and ignition right off the bat. Was wondering if I drilled a couple small holes in the ignition just to try and locate the spring and use a screw driver to turn the ignition counter clockwise till it comes out or if I still need the damn original key to turn the ignition? I hate how damn easy this could be but how complicated it has become not having the damn key! __________________ 1988 1 ton 3+3 custom delux Coming soon(stroked 496) TH400, NP205 14 bolt rear, 60 front 4.56 gears, 6 inch lift 35inch dynapro MTs, pro comp 52 16x8 2.5 backspace

08-13-2013, 11:57 PM	#11
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,632	Re: ignition help - Which door has been replaced? If you want to send me the lock cylinder out of the original door I can make a key for it to see if it will work in the ignition. Shouldn't cost more than a couple of bucks to send it in a padded envelope. Drilling/big screwdriver/hammer is a crap shoot but it's your truck.. LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

08-14-2013, 12:36 AM	#12
belldar Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: New England, ND Posts: 58	Re: ignition help lock doc. Should have just contacted you to begin with instead of trying to have a friend of a friend help me with it. Only thing is I am not real sure that the lock I took out will help out as the ignition may have been messed with before. Looks like someone tried to wrench it off before so its a shot in the dark for the lock plus I would have to wait a damn week now to get my lock back from 100 miles away. I am all ears to what else you would suggest and or I can try and get that lock back and sent to you. If you don't mind pm me your address and I will try and get that to you unless someone can think of another way? __________________ 1988 1 ton 3+3 custom delux Coming soon(stroked 496) TH400, NP205 14 bolt rear, 60 front 4.56 gears, 6 inch lift 35inch dynapro MTs, pro comp 52 16x8 2.5 backspace

08-14-2013, 10:08 PM	#13
belldar Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: New England, ND Posts: 58	Re: ignition help driver side door was replaced and that's the only key I have is for that __________________ 1988 1 ton 3+3 custom delux Coming soon(stroked 496) TH400, NP205 14 bolt rear, 60 front 4.56 gears, 6 inch lift 35inch dynapro MTs, pro comp 52 16x8 2.5 backspace

08-17-2013, 06:31 PM	#15
belldar Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: New England, ND Posts: 58	Re: ignition help Lock Doc thanks and I sent you a message back. __________________ 1988 1 ton 3+3 custom delux Coming soon(stroked 496) TH400, NP205 14 bolt rear, 60 front 4.56 gears, 6 inch lift 35inch dynapro MTs, pro comp 52 16x8 2.5 backspace

08-17-2013, 07:27 PM	#16
Artikgrau325is Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 88	Re: ignition help Got a new set of lock cylinders and keys from Wes at Classic Heartbeat, and a new ignition from Autozone. Disconnected the harness from the ignition in the truck, and then drilled out the cylinder, started with a small bit and worked my way up. Slid right out in about 10 minutes, put the new cylinder and ignition in and all was well. Very easy. The door locks were what gave me a headache, every single one of the bolts that held the panels on were stripped and rusted out. Posted via Mobile Device



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08-18-2013, 11:54 AM	#18
Artikgrau325is Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 88	Re: ignition help It was a combination of not knowing what I was doing, and getting various bits of advice on here. I cut it first, nothing happened, so I proceeded to drill it out. Once I got everything apart, it made far more sense. It's kinda one of those things I had to take apart (read:completely destroy) to understand how it works and is assembled. Posted via Mobile Device

08-19-2013, 01:26 PM	#19
twisty Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 22	Re: ignition help we pulled the SS cover off the cylinder, unscrewed the bezel as far as it would go and stuck a big screw driver in the key hole. a few good whacks and that sucker came free. i ended up taking the switch apart, pulling the cylinder guts out and reassembling it all. now i can start it with a screw driver until i get my new locks in.

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