1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, - Page 3 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**nlped** · 06-22-2014, 10:48 AM

The Burb would be wicked set up like that!

Cobalt964ruf · 06-22-2014, 03:27 PM

Thank you nlped, I agree.

SS Tim · 06-22-2014, 04:18 PM

That would be very nice!
Here is a concept ride for my dogs of a 4x4 converted 1-ton frame, under a panel with the 133" wheelbase, resulting in a short rear overhang. It really needs a Con-Ferr Porthole to finish it off though.

Cobalt964ruf · 06-22-2014, 04:26 PM

Tim that is sweet looking

farmall · 06-22-2014, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SS Tim

That would be very nice!
Here is a concept ride for my dogs of a 4x4 converted 1-ton frame, under panel with the 133" wheelbase, resulting in a short rear overhang. It really needs a ConFerr Porthole to finish it off though.

What is a ConFerr porthole. I dont recall ever hearing about one.

SS Tim · 06-22-2014, 08:28 PM

Sorry to be cryptic. Con-Ferr was a big off road parts supplier here in Burbank, CA. One of their signature products was the HD porthole roof rack. So named for the round holes in the upright plating.
They are long gone as a company but the racks live on as Diamonds.
http://www.diamondrax.com/

farmall · 06-22-2014, 08:31 PM

I was off in dog land thinking of those windows for the dog to stick his head through

Cobalt964ruf · 06-22-2014, 08:59 PM

I was thinking it was a hole for the dog too... Lol

Cobalt964ruf · 06-22-2014, 09:02 PM

I will have to see if the 73-87 suburban full size safari rack will fit the 71 burb as I have one.

Cobalt964ruf · 06-22-2014, 10:34 PM

The 1971 burb as a k30 with full length safari roof rack, 6" lift, 35" bfg's, a snorkel, rock grinder front and rear bumpers and rock grinder side bars. With my k30 running gear... Bad to the bone!!!!

Cobalt964ruf · 06-22-2014, 10:53 PM

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. This not my truck, but this is very much like I would want one.

Spartan · 06-23-2014, 02:35 AM

Funny. I remember those racks, and the shackles they made from back when i could only think about kaiser trucks with buick engines... but in this case I was scratching my head (since I forgot about those racks) thinking "i dont recal con-ferr making portal axles"

Btw this thread has a lot of good ideas in it. Thanks for posting. And I would love that burb/panel in a 69 70 M/Y.

SS Tim · 06-23-2014, 03:16 AM

Good enough starting point for you?

Cobalt964ruf · 06-23-2014, 03:29 AM

Yes I would start with that... But I'm poor... Lol

Cobalt964ruf · 06-23-2014, 03:32 AM

Tim, I too am a dog lover. Very Sorry to hear your husky is missing. Godspeed to you and your dog.

Cobalt964ruf · 06-23-2014, 10:46 PM

more parts came in over the wkend. I will start posting pics of them soon

Cobalt964ruf · 06-25-2014, 03:06 AM

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Cobalt964ruf · 06-25-2014, 07:40 AM

I have the 14bff with disc conversion already... But ran across a Dana 70hd rear srw with my same gear ratio 4.10 for 100.00. I have read the specs on both and the 70 is a bit beefier but 14bff are plentiful and cheap too. Any thoughts? Yes the 70 will cost me a grand by the time you put new spicer bearings seals and Detroit in it. I would reuse the disc kit from the 14b and just make new brackets from some .500 but then I would have dana 70's front and rear. Any thoughts?

**nlped** · 06-25-2014, 08:24 AM

It would sure be beefy, but isn't the 14 already ready to roll? Maybe you could sell it and make back some of your $ to build the rear 70?

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Dana 70hd, 4.00" axle tubes, .500" thick, axles 1.500" thick no neck down, 35 splines, pumpkin is 15/16" thick walled.

Vintage Windmills · 06-25-2014, 01:20 PM

As far as the gears go, the eaton HO52 is stronger than the 14 bolt and a standard dana 70 but not sure about the HD. Its hard to beat the eaton pinion bearing support design but that 70HD sure seems nice and the way to go if you have huge payloads but not huge torque. It has the beefy tubes. At least with standard 70,s the weak point seems to be the gears. There is a thread on pirate4x4 that really made me respect the HO52/72 even more. They concluded the HO52 was stronger, lighter, better ground clearance than the 14 bolt ff. Ive got a Dana 70 here with destroyed gears that was in a 90 stockish cummins. Dodge abandoned the 70 and went up to the 80 in later years as the disel torque got crazy. If the gears arent stronger than a reg duty Dana 70, I,d stick with the 14bff or HO52. Id still buy that HD 70 since the price is so good! Any way you go, they,re all good axles for a gas application. Just my opinion.

Bigdav160 · 06-25-2014, 01:55 PM

For inspiration, a while back there was this Suburban for sale on eBay. IIRC, it was sporting 1 ton drivetrain.

Cobalt964ruf · 06-25-2014, 06:33 PM

bigdave that is bad to da bone!

Cobalt964ruf · 06-26-2014, 10:49 PM

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. Made a deal on this today... Supposed to pick it up Sunday. 1971 3/4 ton k20 4x4. 350, th350, np205, Dana 44 front, ho52 rear.

06-22-2014, 10:48 AM	#51
nlped Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hayden, Al. Posts: 4,148	Re: 1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, The Burb would be wicked set up like that! __________________ Carter 1968 Chevy SWB Fleet... Walt 1963-1/2 Ford Falcon Futura...Martha

06-22-2014, 03:27 PM	#52
Cobalt964ruf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Piedmont, OK Posts: 364	Re: 1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, Thank you nlped, I agree.

06-22-2014, 04:18 PM	#53
SS Tim Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Edwards, CA Posts: 7,503	Re: 1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, That would be very nice! Here is a concept ride for my dogs of a 4x4 converted 1-ton frame, under a panel with the 133" wheelbase, resulting in a short rear overhang. It really needs a Con-Ferr Porthole to finish it off though. Attached Images __________________ Thanks, Tim * VIN/Model Decoders * Power Team Charts (engine/transmission/gear ratio) * Post Your Pickup SPID Blazer SPID Suburban/Panel SPID * RTFM ... Read The Factory Manuals... download 'em here Highlanders Do you have a 1972 Plaid Pickup? Plaid Blazer ** Plaid Suburban Last edited by SS Tim; 06-22-2014 at 08:37 PM.

06-22-2014, 04:26 PM	#54
Cobalt964ruf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Piedmont, OK Posts: 364	Re: 1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, Tim that is sweet looking

06-22-2014, 08:28 PM	#56
SS Tim Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Edwards, CA Posts: 7,503	Re: 1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, Sorry to be cryptic. Con-Ferr was a big off road parts supplier here in Burbank, CA. One of their signature products was the HD porthole roof rack. So named for the round holes in the upright plating. They are long gone as a company but the racks live on as Diamonds. http://www.diamondrax.com/ Attached Images __________________ Thanks, Tim * VIN/Model Decoders * Power Team Charts (engine/transmission/gear ratio) * Post Your Pickup SPID Blazer SPID Suburban/Panel SPID * RTFM ... Read The Factory Manuals... download 'em here Highlanders Do you have a 1972 Plaid Pickup? Plaid Blazer ** Plaid Suburban Last edited by SS Tim; 06-22-2014 at 08:36 PM.

06-22-2014, 08:31 PM	#57
farmall Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Central OR Posts: 723	Re: 1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, I was off in dog land thinking of those windows for the dog to stick his head through __________________ 1955 GMC 250 8 Flatbed 1971 C30 157" 350 4spd 10' Flatbed 81 GMC K30 CnC 9' Flatbed 454 T400 89 GMC Jimmy Stock https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=810958 71 LT1 Convertible, 72 Coupe 69 CJ5, 75 CJ6, 67 M715, 72 M35A2 Bobbed, 95 XLC2

06-22-2014, 08:59 PM	#58
Cobalt964ruf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Piedmont, OK Posts: 364	Re: 1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, I was thinking it was a hole for the dog too... Lol

06-22-2014, 09:02 PM	#59
Cobalt964ruf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Piedmont, OK Posts: 364	Re: 1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, I will have to see if the 73-87 suburban full size safari rack will fit the 71 burb as I have one.

06-22-2014, 10:34 PM	#60
Cobalt964ruf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Piedmont, OK Posts: 364	Re: 1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, The 1971 burb as a k30 with full length safari roof rack, 6" lift, 35" bfg's, a snorkel, rock grinder front and rear bumpers and rock grinder side bars. With my k30 running gear... Bad to the bone!!!!

06-22-2014, 10:53 PM	#61
Cobalt964ruf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Piedmont, OK Posts: 364	Re: 1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, . This not my truck, but this is very much like I would want one.

06-23-2014, 02:35 AM	#62
Spartan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Backwoods, OR Posts: 888	Re: 1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, Funny. I remember those racks, and the shackles they made from back when i could only think about kaiser trucks with buick engines... but in this case I was scratching my head (since I forgot about those racks) thinking "i dont recal con-ferr making portal axles" Btw this thread has a lot of good ideas in it. Thanks for posting. And I would love that burb/panel in a 69 70 M/Y. __________________ '69 K20 350/4 speed/Rockwell/D44/HO52. "orange rhymes with door hinge"

06-23-2014, 03:16 AM	#63
SS Tim Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Edwards, CA Posts: 7,503	Re: 1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, Good enough starting point for you? Attached Images __________________ Thanks, Tim * VIN/Model Decoders * Power Team Charts (engine/transmission/gear ratio) * Post Your Pickup SPID Blazer SPID Suburban/Panel SPID * RTFM ... Read The Factory Manuals... download 'em here Highlanders Do you have a 1972 Plaid Pickup? Plaid Blazer ** Plaid Suburban

06-23-2014, 03:29 AM	#64
Cobalt964ruf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Piedmont, OK Posts: 364	Re: 1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, Yes I would start with that... But I'm poor... Lol

06-23-2014, 03:32 AM	#65
Cobalt964ruf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Piedmont, OK Posts: 364	Re: 1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, Tim, I too am a dog lover. Very Sorry to hear your husky is missing. Godspeed to you and your dog.

06-23-2014, 10:46 PM	#66
Cobalt964ruf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Piedmont, OK Posts: 364	Re: 1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, more parts came in over the wkend. I will start posting pics of them soon



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06-25-2014, 03:06 AM	#67
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06-25-2014, 03:07 AM	#68
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06-25-2014, 07:40 AM	#69
Cobalt964ruf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Piedmont, OK Posts: 364	Re: 1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, I have the 14bff with disc conversion already... But ran across a Dana 70hd rear srw with my same gear ratio 4.10 for 100.00. I have read the specs on both and the 70 is a bit beefier but 14bff are plentiful and cheap too. Any thoughts? Yes the 70 will cost me a grand by the time you put new spicer bearings seals and Detroit in it. I would reuse the disc kit from the 14b and just make new brackets from some .500 but then I would have dana 70's front and rear. Any thoughts?

06-25-2014, 08:24 AM	#70
nlped Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hayden, Al. Posts: 4,148	Re: 1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, It would sure be beefy, but isn't the 14 already ready to roll? Maybe you could sell it and make back some of your $ to build the rear 70? __________________ Carter 1968 Chevy SWB Fleet... Walt 1963-1/2 Ford Falcon Futura...Martha

06-25-2014, 12:55 PM	#71
Cobalt964ruf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Piedmont, OK Posts: 364	Re: 1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, Dana 70hd, 4.00" axle tubes, .500" thick, axles 1.500" thick no neck down, 35 splines, pumpkin is 15/16" thick walled.

06-25-2014, 01:20 PM	#72
Vintage Windmills Vintage 4x4s Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Prior Lake, MN Posts: 4,305	Re: 1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, As far as the gears go, the eaton HO52 is stronger than the 14 bolt and a standard dana 70 but not sure about the HD. Its hard to beat the eaton pinion bearing support design but that 70HD sure seems nice and the way to go if you have huge payloads but not huge torque. It has the beefy tubes. At least with standard 70,s the weak point seems to be the gears. There is a thread on pirate4x4 that really made me respect the HO52/72 even more. They concluded the HO52 was stronger, lighter, better ground clearance than the 14 bolt ff. Ive got a Dana 70 here with destroyed gears that was in a 90 stockish cummins. Dodge abandoned the 70 and went up to the 80 in later years as the disel torque got crazy. If the gears arent stronger than a reg duty Dana 70, I,d stick with the 14bff or HO52. Id still buy that HD 70 since the price is so good! Any way you go, they,re all good axles for a gas application. Just my opinion. __________________ 67 GMC K1500 Custom- 305V6 SM420, PTO, Ram Assist, yellow (the outcast) (project period correct upgrades) 67 GMC C2500 351V6 TH400, AC, PS, PB (can't decide what to do with. Update, decided to keep and will restore ) 86 CHV K30 502 th400, apple red NEW 71 CHV K20 350 SM465, ochre (saved work truck) 71 CHV K20 292 SM465, white, tach, PTO, (future project) 72 CHV K20 350 350th, medium blue (project stocker) 01 CHV K2500hd crew, indigo blue ^3 dont run and the others don't see winter either '86 K30 Cummins "Fireside" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=649649 '71 K20 "get driveable" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590642 '72 K20 Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=493477&page=6 Last edited by Vintage Windmills; 06-25-2014 at 01:26 PM.

06-25-2014, 01:55 PM	#73
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06-25-2014, 06:33 PM	#74
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Cobalt964ruf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Piedmont, OK Posts: 364	Re: 1971 k30 LS3 500hp 4l80e, 205, Dana 70f, 14bff, . Made a deal on this today... Supposed to pick it up Sunday. 1971 3/4 ton k20 4x4. 350, th350, np205, Dana 44 front, ho52 rear.

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