Rottenwood Garages first square body project. - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

72freak · 11-16-2014, 09:37 AM

We tend to stick with the older stuff around here but this came across a few months ago. After a few special touches she is on the road.

1986 Silverado, 92K on body. NO RUST always garage kept. The original owner got tired of the weak 305 and installed a crate 350 backed by a 200R4 that now has 2K on it. It was sold new in Smyrna, Ga and always in Smyrna/Marietta.(2 owner) PW,PD, cruise and AC. We added a 5-5 DJM drop, 2.5 manifolds back with Flowmasters, took off the factory rear step and added a smooth style rear bumper, 275/60/15 with vintage American Racing Daisy's.

flashed · 11-16-2014, 10:33 AM

Looks good ,now what you gonna do to it ?

**old Rusty C10** · 11-16-2014, 10:39 AM

very nice

72freak · 11-16-2014, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by flashed

Looks good ,now what you gonna do to it ?

We have an attention span of a gnat here at Rottenwood Garage so it will be driven for a while and sold.

Just call me Sean · 11-16-2014, 11:29 AM

200-4R is an unusual choice for a truck with a Chevy engine.

3drburb · 11-16-2014, 01:40 PM

Very nice, I like that stance.

72freak · 11-16-2014, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Just call me Sean

200-4R is an unusual choice for a truck with a Chevy engine.

200R4 is defiantly a different direction to go for a truck but certainly not "unusual" behind a GM engine?!?!

Ill take overdrive on any classic vehicle not used for towing however its achieved!!

Just call me Sean · 11-16-2014, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72freak

200R4 is defiantly a different direction to go for a truck but certainly not "unusual" behind a GM engine?!?!

Ill take overdrive on any classic vehicle not used for towing however its achieved!!

It's unusual behind a Chevy engine. It's the choice for overdrive when you have a different GM engine since it has the universal bellhousing but for a Chevy engine the 700-R4 is the first choice as it is better.

NASTY-LSX · 11-16-2014, 07:19 PM

I like it, looks good dropped..

72freak · 11-16-2014, 09:11 PM

[QUOTE=Just call me Sean;6920306]It's unusual behind a Chevy engine. QUOTE]

They appear to have 2 different bolt patterns, came is several Chevrolet cars and is/was certainly a popular mod in the car/truck/street rod world from what I have read. Not as strong as a 700 but commonly used regardless. Glad you were able to shed some light on the subject though and give me something to research as I have never owned a 200.

K5owner · 11-16-2014, 09:56 PM

Not a popular choice behind in a truck at all. I don't know where you are reading that. They are popular in mid 80's Monte carlo, grand prix and cutlass's but def not trucks. That is why you see the 700R4 in more trucks due to their ability to work a little harder then the 200's. Still even the 700's are a weak trans unless upgraded.

Just call me Sean · 11-16-2014, 11:26 PM

They were offered in more cars than that chart, but most of the cars they were offered in had a motor other than a small block Chevy. Back then just because the car was a Chevy doesn't mean it got a Chevy engine. The Buick V6, Olds V8, I put one in my LeMans with the Pontiac 350. Well, I put a couple in my LeMans, they didn't last. The best ones came in the Buick Grand National, they had the turbo V6. Yes it has a universal bellhousing, two different bolt patterns but if the engine was a Chevy it usually got the 700R4. While the 200-4R does bolt to Chevy engines it is the second choice unless you like to be different.

72freak · 11-17-2014, 06:34 AM

Ok guys, as usual the thread has deviated from its original point. Thanks for the information and opinions on the 200R4 or 2004R. I didn't build it, it was put in the truck 14 years ago, has 2000 miles on it and works great. No, its not the first choice for an overdrive but its not a work truck, not used for hauling and towing, the vehicle weights almost the same as the cars that it came out of, the old man had it "built up" and once again....its an overdrive and it runs and drives GREAT. Out of the 150+ classic cars and trucks I have had or built few have had overdrive and I'm elated to have it.

flashed · 11-17-2014, 08:18 AM

Thats good enough for me ,have fun with it .

Just call me Sean · 11-17-2014, 09:41 AM

Deviated? I thought we were talking about your truck. Wasn't that the purpose of this thread?

72freak · 11-17-2014, 11:46 AM

Point well taken! Done.

72freak · 11-21-2014, 10:28 PM

Here are a few shots while I had it on the lift today.

flashed · 11-21-2014, 10:59 PM

That is a very nice well kept truck ,whoever gets it will be happy .

72freak · 02-26-2015, 06:37 AM

Sold

flashed · 02-26-2015, 07:40 AM

So what you playing with next ?

gramps77 · 02-26-2015, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just call me Sean

It's unusual behind a Chevy engine. It's the choice for overdrive when you have a different GM engine since it has the universal bellhousing but for a Chevy engine the 700-R4 is the first choice as it is better.

LOL, a 700 may be YOUR first choice, but the 200 is no slouch if built correctly. Plus, depending on tailshaft, may be an easy swap in some cases without having to modify driveshaft.

Bottom line, nice everyday truck 72freak and I hope you got what you wanted for it.

K5owner · 02-26-2015, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by gramps77

LOL, a 700 may be YOUR first choice, but the 200 is no slouch if built correctly. Plus, depending on tailshaft, may be an easy swap in some cases without having to modify driveshaft.

Bottom line, nice everyday truck 72freak and I hope you got what you wanted for it.

It was actually GM's first choice too.

Hubscrub · 02-26-2015, 12:00 PM

Nice work good looking truck, congrats on the sale. I want one like that for a daily, now use a 97.

77K10Silverado · 02-26-2015, 03:53 PM

That's a nice looking exhaust. Tell us more about that..?!!

Bowed · 02-26-2015, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72freak

200R4 is defiantly a different direction to go for a truck but certainly not "unusual" behind a GM engine?!?!

Ill take overdrive on any classic vehicle not used for towing however its achieved!!

Just to add a .. why .. to the reason of someone using a 200r over a 700r might be ... The 200r was built as an overdrive transmission able to get better fuel mileage than the 700r overdrive . The 200r had less internal resistance and power loss . Source information will vary , but it seems the 200r will save between 5 to 10 horsepower . I can't remember exactly , but I think the 200r was good for between 1 - 2 mpg over the 700r. The 200r can be race built and plenty tough.

11-16-2014, 09:37 AM	#1
72freak Rottenwood Garage Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Marietta, Georgia Posts: 4,321	Rottenwood Garages first square body project. We tend to stick with the older stuff around here but this came across a few months ago. After a few special touches she is on the road. 1986 Silverado, 92K on body. NO RUST always garage kept. The original owner got tired of the weak 305 and installed a crate 350 backed by a 200R4 that now has 2K on it. It was sold new in Smyrna, Ga and always in Smyrna/Marietta.(2 owner) PW,PD, cruise and AC. We added a 5-5 DJM drop, 2.5 manifolds back with Flowmasters, took off the factory rear step and added a smooth style rear bumper, 275/60/15 with vintage American Racing Daisy's. Attached Images __________________ 2004 Chevrolet Suburban C1500 2001 Chevrolet 2500HD Crew 6.0 1999 Harley Davidson Electra Glide 1972 Chevrolet C-20 Custom Camper "Dump Truck" 1972 Chevrolet C-20 Suburban "Big Green" 1969 Chevrolet C-50 Wedge Hauler "Leonidis" 1966 C-10 2x4 short fleet 327 4 speed "Race Truck" 1952 Plymouth Cranbrook "Rican" (my grandfathers) 1931 Ford Model A Coupe "Black Beauty" 1930 Ford Model A truck "Club Cab" 4x4 Rottenwood Garage and Speed Shop.....where everything must be racy! *It's not just a hobby..It's a LIFESTYLE!!!* Thanks for nothing Barrett-Jackson You cant fix stupid or teach accountability! Time wasters, looky Lous and tire kickers are everywhere!

11-16-2014, 10:33 AM	#2
flashed Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: canton ga Posts: 12,724	Re: Rottenwood Garages first square body project. Looks good ,now what you gonna do to it ?

11-16-2014, 10:39 AM	#3
old Rusty C10 Robert Olson Transport Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: recent transplant to NC USA Posts: 20,310	Re: Rottenwood Garages first square body project. very nice __________________ Bob 1951 International running on a squarebody chassis "If a man's worth is judged by the people he associates himself with, then i am the richest man in the world knowing some of the fine people of this board" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...t.php?f=25&a=9 (you can review the site rules here!) PM Me for your vehicle/parts hauling needs in the North East US or see my Facebook page Robert Olson Transport Live each day to the fullest.. you never know when fate is going to pull the rug out from under you... I hate cancer!!

11-16-2014, 01:40 PM	#6
3drburb Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Kent, WA. Posts: 852	Re: Rottenwood Garages first square body project. Very nice, I like that stance.

11-16-2014, 07:19 PM	#9
NASTY-LSX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: HOUSTON Posts: 355	Re: Rottenwood Garages first square body project. I like it, looks good dropped..

11-16-2014, 09:11 PM	#10
72freak Rottenwood Garage Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Marietta, Georgia Posts: 4,321	Re: Rottenwood Garages first square body project. [QUOTE=Just call me Sean;6920306]It's unusual behind a Chevy engine. QUOTE] They appear to have 2 different bolt patterns, came is several Chevrolet cars and is/was certainly a popular mod in the car/truck/street rod world from what I have read. Not as strong as a 700 but commonly used regardless. Glad you were able to shed some light on the subject though and give me something to research as I have never owned a 200. Attached Images __________________ 2004 Chevrolet Suburban C1500 2001 Chevrolet 2500HD Crew 6.0 1999 Harley Davidson Electra Glide 1972 Chevrolet C-20 Custom Camper "Dump Truck" 1972 Chevrolet C-20 Suburban "Big Green" 1969 Chevrolet C-50 Wedge Hauler "Leonidis" 1966 C-10 2x4 short fleet 327 4 speed "Race Truck" 1952 Plymouth Cranbrook "Rican" (my grandfathers) 1931 Ford Model A Coupe "Black Beauty" 1930 Ford Model A truck "Club Cab" 4x4 Rottenwood Garage and Speed Shop.....where everything must be racy! *It's not just a hobby..It's a LIFESTYLE!!!* Thanks for nothing Barrett-Jackson You cant fix stupid or teach accountability! Time wasters, looky Lous and tire kickers are everywhere!

11-16-2014, 09:56 PM	#11
K5owner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: CA Posts: 168	Re: Rottenwood Garages first square body project. Not a popular choice behind in a truck at all. I don't know where you are reading that. They are popular in mid 80's Monte carlo, grand prix and cutlass's but def not trucks. That is why you see the 700R4 in more trucks due to their ability to work a little harder then the 200's. Still even the 700's are a weak trans unless upgraded.

11-17-2014, 06:34 AM	#13
72freak Rottenwood Garage Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Marietta, Georgia Posts: 4,321	Re: Rottenwood Garages first square body project. Ok guys, as usual the thread has deviated from its original point. Thanks for the information and opinions on the 200R4 or 2004R. I didn't build it, it was put in the truck 14 years ago, has 2000 miles on it and works great. No, its not the first choice for an overdrive but its not a work truck, not used for hauling and towing, the vehicle weights almost the same as the cars that it came out of, the old man had it "built up" and once again....its an overdrive and it runs and drives GREAT. Out of the 150+ classic cars and trucks I have had or built few have had overdrive and I'm elated to have it. __________________ 2004 Chevrolet Suburban C1500 2001 Chevrolet 2500HD Crew 6.0 1999 Harley Davidson Electra Glide 1972 Chevrolet C-20 Custom Camper "Dump Truck" 1972 Chevrolet C-20 Suburban "Big Green" 1969 Chevrolet C-50 Wedge Hauler "Leonidis" 1966 C-10 2x4 short fleet 327 4 speed "Race Truck" 1952 Plymouth Cranbrook "Rican" (my grandfathers) 1931 Ford Model A Coupe "Black Beauty" 1930 Ford Model A truck "Club Cab" 4x4 Rottenwood Garage and Speed Shop.....where everything must be racy! *It's not just a hobby..It's a LIFESTYLE!!!* Thanks for nothing Barrett-Jackson You cant fix stupid or teach accountability! Time wasters, looky Lous and tire kickers are everywhere!

11-17-2014, 08:18 AM	#14
flashed Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: canton ga Posts: 12,724	Re: Rottenwood Garages first square body project. Thats good enough for me ,have fun with it .

11-17-2014, 11:46 AM	#16
72freak Rottenwood Garage Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Marietta, Georgia Posts: 4,321	Re: Rottenwood Garages first square body project. Point well taken! Done. __________________ 2004 Chevrolet Suburban C1500 2001 Chevrolet 2500HD Crew 6.0 1999 Harley Davidson Electra Glide 1972 Chevrolet C-20 Custom Camper "Dump Truck" 1972 Chevrolet C-20 Suburban "Big Green" 1969 Chevrolet C-50 Wedge Hauler "Leonidis" 1966 C-10 2x4 short fleet 327 4 speed "Race Truck" 1952 Plymouth Cranbrook "Rican" (my grandfathers) 1931 Ford Model A Coupe "Black Beauty" 1930 Ford Model A truck "Club Cab" 4x4 Rottenwood Garage and Speed Shop.....where everything must be racy! *It's not just a hobby..It's a LIFESTYLE!!!* Thanks for nothing Barrett-Jackson You cant fix stupid or teach accountability! Time wasters, looky Lous and tire kickers are everywhere!

11-21-2014, 10:28 PM	#17
72freak Rottenwood Garage Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Marietta, Georgia Posts: 4,321	Re: Rottenwood Garages first square body project. Here are a few shots while I had it on the lift today. Attached Images __________________ 2004 Chevrolet Suburban C1500 2001 Chevrolet 2500HD Crew 6.0 1999 Harley Davidson Electra Glide 1972 Chevrolet C-20 Custom Camper "Dump Truck" 1972 Chevrolet C-20 Suburban "Big Green" 1969 Chevrolet C-50 Wedge Hauler "Leonidis" 1966 C-10 2x4 short fleet 327 4 speed "Race Truck" 1952 Plymouth Cranbrook "Rican" (my grandfathers) 1931 Ford Model A Coupe "Black Beauty" 1930 Ford Model A truck "Club Cab" 4x4 Rottenwood Garage and Speed Shop.....where everything must be racy! *It's not just a hobby..It's a LIFESTYLE!!!* Thanks for nothing Barrett-Jackson You cant fix stupid or teach accountability! Time wasters, looky Lous and tire kickers are everywhere!

11-21-2014, 10:59 PM	#18
flashed Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: canton ga Posts: 12,724	Re: Rottenwood Garages first square body project. That is a very nice well kept truck ,whoever gets it will be happy .

02-26-2015, 06:37 AM	#19
72freak Rottenwood Garage Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Marietta, Georgia Posts: 4,321	Re: Rottenwood Garages first square body project. Sold __________________ 2004 Chevrolet Suburban C1500 2001 Chevrolet 2500HD Crew 6.0 1999 Harley Davidson Electra Glide 1972 Chevrolet C-20 Custom Camper "Dump Truck" 1972 Chevrolet C-20 Suburban "Big Green" 1969 Chevrolet C-50 Wedge Hauler "Leonidis" 1966 C-10 2x4 short fleet 327 4 speed "Race Truck" 1952 Plymouth Cranbrook "Rican" (my grandfathers) 1931 Ford Model A Coupe "Black Beauty" 1930 Ford Model A truck "Club Cab" 4x4 Rottenwood Garage and Speed Shop.....where everything must be racy! *It's not just a hobby..It's a LIFESTYLE!!!* Thanks for nothing Barrett-Jackson You cant fix stupid or teach accountability! Time wasters, looky Lous and tire kickers are everywhere!

02-26-2015, 07:40 AM	#20
flashed Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: canton ga Posts: 12,724	Re: Rottenwood Garages first square body project. So what you playing with next ?

02-26-2015, 12:00 PM	#23
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