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[swamp rat]

Originally Posted by gdavis

I bought mine from Lowe's and I had to pick it up from the store. I only paid 589.00 and it's never gave me a problem. I did have to tighten the pulley one time. A 60 gal 220 unit, with 13 to 15 cfm. I have used a 100 lb. sand blaster and never ran out of air. Alone with all my air tools. It said that it shouldn't be transported on it's side. I had two son's to help me with the compressor, so I didn't have a problem. I would not transport it on it's side if it was me. fine some help, you want be sorry.

What brand was that? I feel pretty confidant i could manhandle a 60 Gallon compressor more so than an 80 gallon unit. Been debating this as well as what brand and where to buy.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

[gdavis]

Originally Posted by swamp rat

What brand was that? I feel pretty confidant i could manhandle a 60 Gallon compressor more so than an 80 gallon unit. Been debating this as well as what brand and where to buy.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

Mine came from Lowe's I can't remember what brand it is now, I will look tomorrow and get back with ya. George

[swamp rat]

No answers from my emails to any electrical place so I'll have to start calling soon, didn't wanna mess with that today.

Black Friday, we didn't wanna get all intertwined with the masses but i did decide to check out the new Tractor Supply store close by to see if they had the 80 Gallon Ingersol in stock, they had 3 of them on the floor, i wanted to see in person how heavy they felt on the pallet, i feel confidant i could rent a heavy duty lift truck with the tilt out wheels and move it by myself if nessasary

http://www.buncerental.com/equipment...6&key=235-1270

http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/stor...pressor-80-gal

The Ingersol is not my first choice but the price it sure tempting but i want a lifetime purchase, not sure this one will last, it states consumer grade.

I have been looking at this Quincy at Compressors direct for $1999.99 but the same one is available at Lowes for $1987, i'd have to pay tax but if i got the extended protection plan at least i'd be dealing locally.

http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/...ssor/p856.html

http://www.lowes.com/pd_470447-56469...y%20Compressor

Here's the Compressors direct webpage showing the 5hp 2 stage 80 gal compressors, kinda hard to decide... I think i like the Quincy and Belair about the same, but just not sure about the Campbell Hausfeld, if you scroll back you'll find a Jenny, FS-Curtis and EMAX

http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/...tts=9&lrqshp=4

http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/...sor/p3798.html

http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/...sor/p3832.html

http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/...sor/p9748.html

One last one i was looking at is the Eaton by Polar Air.
http://www.eatoncompressor.com/catal...47/9379899.htm

Too many choices, i want narrow and taller to take up less floor space, prefer a long life cast iron pump. I also have to call a couple of the MFGR's and find out the required breaker so i can consult with an electrician, i have no idea what the amperage limit is on a house breaker. I have been saving for this purchase for a year now, ready to take the plunge but want to be sure that my house electric service can handle it so i don't order and have delivered a bad choice.
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[Vic1947]

Originally Posted by swamp rat

Too many choices, i want narrow and taller to take up less floor space, prefer a long life cast iron pump. I also have to call a couple of the MFGR's and find out the required breaker so i can consult with an electrician, i have no idea what the amperage limit is on a house breaker. I have been saving for this purchase for a year now, ready to take the plunge but want to be sure that my house electric service can handle it so i don't order and have delivered a bad choice.

Mike,
I have an ancient 5HP Sears 80 gal. compressor I've moved from house to house over the years. Back when I first bought it, I had an electrician wire it up for me and I've done it myself ever since. A 50 amp breaker that fits the panel and 8 gauge wire is what he used and I have too. I also piggyback my mill, TIG and MIG welders on the same circuit. Over the years, I've never, ever tripped the breaker ...not even once. The fact is, in a one horse operation like I run, it's very rare that I have two machines running off the same circuit at the same time. But even when that happens, it causes no grief.

By all means, check with a local electrician, but I wouldn't sweat whether the panel can handle it. You'd have to have every single gizmo and light on in the house (all pulling their max amp draw) to overload a 100 amp service box. The chances of that happening are nil. From what I saw, your main issue is that there's currently no more room in the box for a new circuit. It's hard to tell from the photo, but it looks like you have several choices.
1. Wire in a separate breaker box with space for the compressor and other future expansion.
2. Replace four of the 110V breakers with two of the double circuit style. That would free up enough room to slip in another 220V breaker in the existing panel.
3. You appear to have a number of 220V circuits in your panel. Perhaps you could combine a couple of low usage circuits to free up a slot for the compressor.

Again, a certified electrician can advise you if any of these options will work for you ...and maybe even suggest other alternatives. All the compressors look good to me. When it comes to this sort of decision where personal experience is minimal, I tend to have a herd mentality. I'd stick with the best sellers that fit my budget.

[7dee2]

Originally Posted by Vic1947

Mike,
I have an ancient 5HP Sears 80 gal. compressor I've moved from house to house over the years. Back when I first bought it, I had an electrician wire it up for me and I've done it myself ever since. A 50 amp breaker that fits the panel and 8 gauge wire is what he used and I have too. I also piggyback my mill, TIG and MIG welders on the same circuit. Over the years, I've never, ever tripped the breaker ...not even once. The fact is, in a one horse operation like I run, it's very rare that I have two machines running off the same circuit at the same time. But even when that happens, it causes no grief.

By all means, check with a local electrician, but I wouldn't sweat whether the panel can handle it. You'd have to have every single gizmo and light on in the house (all pulling their max amp draw) to overload a 100 amp service box. The chances of that happening are nil. From what I saw, your main issue is that there's currently no more room in the box for a new circuit. It's hard to tell from the photo, but it looks like you have several choices.
1. Wire in a separate breaker box with space for the compressor and other future expansion.
2. Replace four of the 110V breakers with two of the double circuit style. That would free up enough room to slip in another 220V breaker in the existing panel.
3. You appear to have a number of 220V circuits in your panel. Perhaps you could combine a couple of low usage circuits to free up a slot for the compressor.

Again, a certified electrician can advise you if any of these options will work for you ...and maybe even suggest other alternatives. All the compressors look good to me. When it comes to this sort of decision where personal experience is minimal, I tend to have a herd mentality. I'd stick with the best sellers that fit my budget.

Vic is giving you some good advise IMO. Do they really make stuff to last a lifetime anymore? If you buy commercial grade you might luck out.

[swamp rat]

Well, i almost pulled the triger on an 80 Gal compressor thru Air Compressors Direct last night, then i decided to email and ask about the size of the freight truck, is it a full sized semi with a 60' trailer or is it a box van about 2-3 Ton..... He said today its a semi. That kinda throws a curve ball in my plans as i don't think a full sized semi can make it down my street.

Guess i'll have to find on locally, probably the Quincy which i can get thru Lowes, i know their delivery truck is a box van with a lift gate.

I think the only other option might be to order one from a company in Seattle, then drive up and pick it up, but i have been advised not to lay the compressors on their side, that will mean I'd have to pull the compressor unit and motor and lay the tank down in the back of my truck.

[Vic1947]

Originally Posted by swamp rat

That kinda throws a curve ball in my plans as i don't think a full sized semi can make it down my street.

On several occasions, when receiving freight via a semi, I've arranged to pick up the item at the nearest depot. They'll load it into your truck with a forklift at no charge. If they push it all the way to the front of the bed, you could use ratchet tie downs to secure it. As long as you don't take corners on two wheels it should make it safely home. Or, if you have someone you know with a business that has a forklift and/or loading dock, you could have it drop shipped there and pick it up even closer to home. Just thinking...

[Vintage Windmills]

The quincy is a good unit and has the thickest frame I've seen. My brother has had their 4cyl one for a couple years and no issues. I'd get one with the Baldor motor like his.

[swamp rat]

NONHOG, wanted to say thanks on the lead, David will be out tomorrow to figure out what i need done.

[swamp rat]

Originally Posted by Vic1947

On several occasions, when receiving freight via a semi, I've arranged to pick up the item at the nearest depot. They'll load it into your truck with a forklift at no charge. If they push it all the way to the front of the bed, you could use ratchet tie downs to secure it. As long as you don't take corners on two wheels it should make it safely home. Or, if you have someone you know with a business that has a forklift and/or loading dock, you could have it drop shipped there and pick it up even closer to home. Just thinking...

Thanks for the thoughts Vic, much appreciated, my biggest obstacle is getting it off the truck and into the garage so i think a lift gate is a must, i have come to the conclusion that ordering the Quincy from Lowes will be my best option, i know they have box vans with lift gates.

[swamp rat]

Originally Posted by Vintage Windmills

The quincy is a good unit and has the thickest frame I've seen. My brother has had their 4cyl one for a couple years and no issues. I'd get one with the Baldor motor like his.

I don't know if they have the Baldor motor or not but this Quincy is my first choice, should know in a couple days now.

I have a friend at work who's friend that runs a sand blasting supply business, apparently he is an authorized retailer of compressors too, he is also checking into what he can offer me, but that still comes down to i would need it delivered on a truck with a lift gate, if his options are not what i need then I'm heading to Lowe's.

[NONHOG]

Originally Posted by swamp rat

NONHOG, wanted to say thanks on the lead, David will be out tomorrow to figure out what i need done.

Oh excellent. You'll soon see, David is the kind of guy you want to refer others to.
He is a good people!

[swamp rat]

Originally Posted by NONHOG

Oh excellent. You'll soon see, David is the kind of guy you want to refer others to.
He is a good people!

I'm impressed!

[DWilbur]

Ha Swamp ray the larger tank won't gain you a thing sandblasting or using air tools. it's all about air pressure and volume from the pump. you wont gain anything getting a 80 tank. I have a 40 gallon tank on mine but the pump is just not quite enough to keep up with the demand of my sand blaster. it works for smaller parts I did my inner fender it took 2 hour to blast both side the under side had under coat witch is tough to get off. Get a good pump that can put out 13 to 15 cfm. my compressor only put out 10 CFM at 90 psi.

[Vic1947]

Originally Posted by DWilbur

Ha Swamp ray the larger tank won't gain you a thing sandblasting or using air tools. it's all about air pressure and volume from the pump. you wont gain anything getting a 80 tank. I have a 40 gallon tank on mine but the pump is just not quite enough to keep up with the demand of my sand blaster. it works for smaller parts I did my inner fender it took 2 hour to blast both side the under side had under coat witch is tough to get off. Get a good pump that can put out 13 to 15 cfm. my compressor only put out 10 CFM at 90 psi.

That's true. My 80 gal compressor is similarly afflicted. The only "advantage" to the bigger tank is that it takes a bit longer for the pump to kick in and for it to bleed down to the rated pressure. Of course, you give it all back because the pump runs longer to put the air back in. Or as an old friend used to say... TANSTAAFL (There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.)

[DWilbur]

I know we can get a bunch of scuba tans regulate them to 120 psi. The last time I filled a scuba tank cost me $10.00. I just can't win.

[swamp rat]

Originally Posted by DWilbur

Ha Swamp ray the larger tank won't gain you a thing sandblasting or using air tools. it's all about air pressure and volume from the pump. you wont gain anything getting a 80 tank. I have a 40 gallon tank on mine but the pump is just not quite enough to keep up with the demand of my sand blaster. it works for smaller parts I did my inner fender it took 2 hour to blast both side the under side had under coat witch is tough to get off. Get a good pump that can put out 13 to 15 cfm. my compressor only put out 10 CFM at 90 psi.

I debated over 80gal VS 60 gal. The ones i looked at the 80 had more cfm.

EDIT: The other thing is when the electric motor fires up it basicly spikes the electrical circut with an amp surge, i figure with a larger tank it won't have to fire up quite as often, once running the amp draw is probably 1/2 the start draw.

Eh who knows, one thing i do know is i don't wanna have to buy another compressor after this one, so for a few hundred more it just seems like a good idea.

[swamp rat]

Got all the wiring in place and junction box in the sheetrock and re mudded, gonna install the new circut breakers after the compressor is delivered, which i also ordered today.. come on 12-20-14!

[7dee2]

Nice! Which one did you order the Quincy you were after? What was said above about the 60 vs. 80 gallon is correct but I bought an 80 when I got mine. Same foot print on a vertical so why not.

[swamp rat]

Originally Posted by 7dee2

Nice! Which one did you order the Quincy you were after? What was said above about the 60 vs. 80 gallon is correct but I bought an 80 when I got mine. Same foot print on a vertical so why not.

Yes i liked the Quincy 80 gallon unit, the main reason was the Baldor Motor and the 50,000 hour pump life and the warrenty when also purchasing the service kit. Most of (not all) the others only offered 10, or 20,000 hour pump life.

The others i liked, Champion and Belaire and a couple others i couldn't order thru lowes so back to the semi on my street issue again..

[Mustard72]

We want to see pictures of the Quincy when you get it, of course!!!

[swamp rat]

Originally Posted by Mustard72

We want to see pictures of the Quincy when you get it, of course!!!

Of course! the order ticket stated around the 21st..... I hope its pretty quick.

I admit i have been slacking again too. The area of my garage i want to hang up plastic and create a small paint booth is also the same area i need to put the compressor so i'd have to tear the plastic down when it arrives. I'll just wait.

[gdavis]

I hope you and your family have a great Christmas. George

[swamp rat]

Thanks George!

Merry Christmas to everyone of you!

[swamp rat]

Compressor update:

Still don't have it yet, i called Lowe's customer service line a week ago and they told me they had the warranty service kit at the store and the compressor is ordered.

2 days ago i called the customer service line again they said the the store has the warranty service kit and the compressor was in route, estimated delivery date the 21st.

I called My local Lowe's yesterday, the guy i talked to said, we have the compressor but the warranty service packet is in route..

Conflicting information so i don't know if they know which way is up at this point.. If they do have the compressor then that means they have had it for about a week. the store help guy told me they don't deliver until they have both items. The closer to Christmas it gets the less likely i will have help to get the thing in my garage..

Kinda frustrating, i may have to tell them not to deliver until after Christmas.