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04-23-2015, 12:11 AM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
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04-23-2015, 02:13 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
Can't just leave us hangin' ! JP any luck?
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04-23-2015, 04:10 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
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04-23-2015, 05:26 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
Did you replace the distributor cap and rotor? I just installed an engine that was running fine before I took it out. I also tried everything, seemed like the timing was off and just couldn't figure it out. Installed new cap and rotor and started right up. Just a thought and an easy thing to try.
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04-23-2015, 05:45 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
I see you're getting a wealth of knowledge but diagnosing it really isn't nearly as complicated as it's made out to be. Unless i'm mistaken, you have verified you have spark, fuel, and obviously air. Do you have compression? Start from scratch. If you are dead certain your on TDC, is your harmonic balancer new, or used? If it's used, it could have slipped on the rubber making your timing incorrect. Silly mistakes can happen when people get complacent.
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04-23-2015, 06:15 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
I'm very curious as to what is it..If the Mechanical timing is correct I would start at the Power lead to the Dizzy..it could be a bad Module too..A million things it could be
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04-23-2015, 07:47 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
Using the 40+ year old harmonic balancer? The outer ring can slip on the hub when the rubber between the inertia ring and the hub gets old and starts to disintegrate. If this happens your mark on the balancer will be off from TDC on the timing tab.
Also... careful not to keep cranking it over and over and over if it a flat tappet cam... Gary
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04-24-2015, 12:21 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
Wouldn't it be funky if the distributor cap was one of the Accel "corrected" caps? Like this one Corrected Distributor Cap
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04-24-2015, 12:48 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
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 since those came out I was wondering what havoc that would bring if wired traditionally!
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04-24-2015, 03:54 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
I think the "spark" essential element is missing. I would start considering BOOB parts. Happened to me when I rebuilt a Corvair. I replaced every ignition component with new parts and could not get the engine to start. Turned out to be a bad coil (or was it condenser...can't remember). Point is, just because it is new does not mean it is good.
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04-24-2015, 04:27 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
I have also had a bad tach kill an ignition on a points distributor. This one is HEI that owner says it does have spark. Whether the spark happens at the right time and in the right sequence is another question.
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04-24-2015, 04:46 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
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Perhaps a friend has one (currently working?) that you could substitute in for a 15 minute test. ....just thinking out loud here, but its perhaps time to get back to basics. All good Coley 
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04-24-2015, 05:11 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
Start over and don't guess. Find TDC properly. Align the rotor tab with the cap. Set initial timing. Check fuel pressure during cranking to ensure it's not blowing past the needle and seat and flooding it. Put an inline spark check tool (five bucks) inline to verify you're actually getting spark.
It's kinda hard to help when someone says they KNOW everything is right but it doesn't run, after all... My entire frameoff fired on the first revolution not because I'm so smart, but because I'm so afraid of mistakes.
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04-24-2015, 05:25 PM
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The oddest Todd around
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
Stupid question, but how do you know the timing is set correctly if the engine hasn't been fired up?
Kinda hard to set the timing perfectly with the engine not running...
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04-24-2015, 05:28 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
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Why do the numbers go weird on the wired do you think? 1,3,7,5 on one side and 8,4,2,6 on the other. Figured it would at least be 1,3,5,7 and 2,4,6,8...
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04-24-2015, 05:42 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
Start over. Pull all of the spark plugs, and valve cover over #1 cylinder. Turn engine over by hand, watching the valves open and close on #1 cyl. Put your finger over the #1 spark plug hole. You should feel compression pushing your finger out on compression stroke. When the intake valve closes, you will be very close to TDC. Pull the dizzy cap, and see if the rotor is pointed at #1. If not, pull the dizzy and reset.
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04-25-2015, 02:07 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
Any luck JP?
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04-25-2015, 03:05 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
Inquiring minds need to know? Hope your out riding around?
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04-25-2015, 07:41 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
Make certain you're at #1 TDC, and set up the wires accordingly. Also, inspect the balancer carefully- it can be the source of much misery. Just went through this on the '72 Cheyenne BB. The HEI was easy, the nasty damper was annoying- I could get it to start and run by messing with the distributor, but the timing wouldn't stay consistent. The balance fell apart when I dropped it on the pavement.
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04-25-2015, 09:26 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
Had same problem, mine was no. 2 chevytruckluver, I was almost sure I had it correct , but when putting the cap on and button pointing right , when I was sluding it in place it turn a little and I did not notice it , upon rechecking I saw it wasn't pointing to No.1 , Make sure it points after it down . My guess here is the problem.
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05-04-2015, 03:33 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
You get that thing running yet JP?
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05-05-2015, 11:29 AM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
Still wondering and hoping he out riding around?
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05-05-2015, 03:24 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
I fought a similar problem last summer with a new engine. Checked everything mentioned above at least twice. My problem was the valves needed to be adjusted a little bit looser on start up. Once running, readjusted valves and ran great. Drove me crazy for over a month.
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05-05-2015, 06:06 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
I'm hoping you will come back and tell us she's up and running. I hate problems like this.
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05-05-2015, 11:49 PM
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Re: freshly rebuilt sbc will not start
Do you have a full 12V going to the HEI? Some times the old resistor used in the old points distributor gets left in the circuit. The HEI needs full 12V to operate.
Hope you find whatever the issue is
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