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ufbugman · 05-06-2015, 04:26 PM

Got my tag for my 71,c10 and went for a ride, 1st stop 2 new lower ball joints pressed in, 2 stop wash at the car wash, 3rd new wiper blades, and then 4th stop got some gas, And then she would not start. dead battery, got jumped and drive home.

I pulled the alternator off had it checked and they say it fine, battery is good also. I hooked up a volt meter to alternator and with the truck idling I had 14 volts. when I deconnect the neg cable from the battery truck stalls.

any ideas?

2nd problem is shift linkage can't get it in park...

specs on truck... 71 c-10 327 with th400 till cpp column

Secret Squirrel · 05-06-2015, 04:43 PM

Hot wire running from alt is bad? If it's a one wire alt did the plug on the bottom of alt fall out? I have heard that will effect it, but never tested the theory myself.

ufbugman · 05-06-2015, 04:58 PM

no it's the old 3 wire type..

mahanian · 05-06-2015, 05:38 PM

My guess would be either it's a wiring issue from the alternator to the battery/fuse panel or the alternator is failing under load. I would double check your chassis grounds as well if the other two are fine.

ufbugman · 05-06-2015, 08:08 PM

Just tried something, dis connected all the wires from the aternator but ground and hooked up a test light to the battery termail on the alt, started the truck and nothing , should I have had juice?

9teen69 · 05-06-2015, 08:58 PM

I've had problems with these two wires coming loose and not starting, are yours secure?

RichardJ · 05-06-2015, 09:27 PM

DO NOT ever disconnect the battery with the engine running on a vehicle with an alternator. EVER

That is something some would do with the old DC Generators. It told them the gen was putting out some current, enough current to power the ignition, but it told them little.

>>then 4th stop got some gas, And then she would not start.<<

You might check the starter. Did the engine crank slowly, did the solenoid just click or was there no sound?

mahanian · 05-06-2015, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ufbugman

Just tried something, dis connected all the wires from the aternator but ground and hooked up a test light to the battery termail on the alt, started the truck and nothing , should I have had juice?

Yes, you should have power out of it if your test light was grounded

ufbugman · 05-06-2015, 10:32 PM

ground wire for test light was grounded even tried it in a few spots...

**68350** · 05-06-2015, 10:48 PM

The voltage regulator may have went bad too. Its on the radiator support by drivers headlight. I fought with my 72 GMC having a dead battery every once in a while. Checked battery and alternator and both checked out. Replaced voltage regulator and haven't had a problem at all since

mahanian · 05-06-2015, 10:49 PM

Sounds like a bad alternator to me

JustinGJ · 05-06-2015, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardJ

>>then 4th stop got some gas, And then she would not start.<<

You might check the starter. Did the engine crank slowly, did the solenoid just click or was there no sound?

Yeah, could even be heat soak on the starter after that many stops, are you running headers?

CG · 05-06-2015, 11:26 PM

Running a 350 with long tube headers on my off topic truck and I had a bunch of problems dealing with starter being way to close to the heat of the headers. Went to a smaller high torque starter and a little wiring work around and its been fine ever since.

I would go to town, do a few stop start errands and it would not start. Even had to have it towed home once =<

Secret Squirrel · 05-06-2015, 11:44 PM

I've had that GM hot start on my 72 Olds, ended up going with gear reduction starter. Given the details the OP gave my money is still on the charging system.

When the external regulator went out on my Olds my lights got super bright then radio went out and car died (fried my electric fuel pump).

X2 on the bad/failing alt ... Dumb question but you didn't throw a belt did you? Lol I know I know I would hope the belt is on good and tight.
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ufbugman · 05-06-2015, 11:50 PM

belt is good and tight, I think it might be the alternator myself, advanced auto said it was good, but they also are not the bright bulbs in the package.

I think my last test with all the wires removed and a test light hooked up told me the alt.

But still going to check it again tomorrow before buying a new alternator

The starter is Fine

tommys72 · 05-07-2015, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 68350

The voltage regulator may have went bad too. Its on the radiator support by drivers headlight. I fought with my 72 GMC having a dead battery every once in a while. Checked battery and alternator and both checked out. Replaced voltage regulator and haven't had a problem at all since

Same exact thing happened to me....replaced it, haven't had an issue out of since

ufbugman · 05-09-2015, 10:49 PM

got it figured out! the voltage regular was not gronded good, 2 new bolts and all is fine..

Secret Squirrel · 05-09-2015, 11:57 PM

Awesome, glad to hear

In The Ten Ring · 05-10-2015, 12:12 AM

Oh geeze. I wonder what surprises await me when I go for a test drive........

Ozzy2013 · 05-10-2015, 12:56 AM

Cool at least it wasnt serious

05-06-2015, 04:26 PM	#1
ufbugman Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: High springs Florida Posts: 174	Got my tags and went for my first drive! and broke down Got my tag for my 71,c10 and went for a ride, 1st stop 2 new lower ball joints pressed in, 2 stop wash at the car wash, 3rd new wiper blades, and then 4th stop got some gas, And then she would not start. dead battery, got jumped and drive home. I pulled the alternator off had it checked and they say it fine, battery is good also. I hooked up a volt meter to alternator and with the truck idling I had 14 volts. when I deconnect the neg cable from the battery truck stalls. any ideas? 2nd problem is shift linkage can't get it in park... specs on truck... 71 c-10 327 with th400 till cpp column Attached Images Last edited by ufbugman; 05-06-2015 at 04:39 PM.

05-06-2015, 04:43 PM	#2
Secret Squirrel Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Cheyenne Wy Posts: 208	Re: Got my tags and went for my first drive! and broke down Hot wire running from alt is bad? If it's a one wire alt did the plug on the bottom of alt fall out? I have heard that will effect it, but never tested the theory myself. __________________ ________________________ 72 Olds Cutlass w/442 option 69 C-10 Short Bed Fleet 1960 Biscayne Wagon/El Camino 1995 YJ 4.0 SOA SYE on 35s 01 Excursion Limited 7.3 PSD 06 Suzuki DRZ 400S

05-06-2015, 04:58 PM	#3
ufbugman Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: High springs Florida Posts: 174	Re: Got my tags and went for my first drive! and broke down no it's the old 3 wire type..

05-06-2015, 05:38 PM	#4
mahanian C10 addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,432	Re: Got my tags and went for my first drive! and broke down My guess would be either it's a wiring issue from the alternator to the battery/fuse panel or the alternator is failing under load. I would double check your chassis grounds as well if the other two are fine. __________________ Jared 67 C10 CST Short Fleet Big Window 65 C10 Custom Short Fleet Big Window 67 Camaro RS

05-06-2015, 08:08 PM	#5
ufbugman Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: High springs Florida Posts: 174	Re: Got my tags and went for my first drive! and broke down Just tried something, dis connected all the wires from the aternator but ground and hooked up a test light to the battery termail on the alt, started the truck and nothing , should I have had juice?

05-06-2015, 08:58 PM	#6
9teen69 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,048	Re: Got my tags and went for my first drive! and broke down I've had problems with these two wires coming loose and not starting, are yours secure? Attached Images __________________ 72 Cheyenne SWB C10 (daily driver) (Super fake cause I just love the glovebox emblem) 70 Camaro RS (frame-off in pieces) 70 Camaro RS (daily driver backup) 69 Custom LWB C10 (son now drives)

05-06-2015, 09:27 PM	#7
RichardJ Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,466	Re: Got my tags and went for my first drive! and broke down DO NOT ever disconnect the battery with the engine running on a vehicle with an alternator. EVER That is something some would do with the old DC Generators. It told them the gen was putting out some current, enough current to power the ignition, but it told them little. >>then 4th stop got some gas, And then she would not start.<< You might check the starter. Did the engine crank slowly, did the solenoid just click or was there no sound? __________________ '67 GMC 2500, 292, 4spd, AC

05-06-2015, 10:32 PM	#9
ufbugman Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: High springs Florida Posts: 174	Re: Got my tags and went for my first drive! and broke down ground wire for test light was grounded even tried it in a few spots...

05-06-2015, 10:48 PM	#10
68350 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Williston, ND Posts: 2,999	Re: Got my tags and went for my first drive! and broke down The voltage regulator may have went bad too. Its on the radiator support by drivers headlight. I fought with my 72 GMC having a dead battery every once in a while. Checked battery and alternator and both checked out. Replaced voltage regulator and haven't had a problem at all since __________________ 68 Chevy CST/10, 50th Anniversary, 327/th400, 373 posi, buckets 68 GMC Shortbox Stepside, 402/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.08 Positraction 69 Chevy Camaro SS, 383, 4 speed, positraction 70 Chevy El Camino SS396, Triple Black, 454/th400, Tach 70 Chevy Shortbox Stepside 4x4, 350/th350, Tilt, Tach, Cab Lights, Bumper Guards, Tow Hooks 70 Chevy 3/4 Longbox, 350/auto, 70k, SURVIVOR 71 Chevy Blazer, CST, 350/auto 71 GMC Sierra K2500, 454, 4 speed, 4.10 posi, 37s 71 Custom/30, Open Road, 350/th400, tilt 72 Chevy Shortbox Fleetside, 496 Stroker/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.42 Posi 72 GMC Sierra Grande 2500. 427/th400, tilt, a/c, tool and stowage, buckets/console, 3.54 posi

05-06-2015, 10:49 PM	#11
mahanian C10 addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,432	Re: Got my tags and went for my first drive! and broke down Sounds like a bad alternator to me __________________ Jared 67 C10 CST Short Fleet Big Window 65 C10 Custom Short Fleet Big Window 67 Camaro RS

05-06-2015, 11:26 PM	#13
CG BlahBlahBlah Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wa. Posts: 20,019	Re: Got my tags and went for my first drive! and broke down Running a 350 with long tube headers on my off topic truck and I had a bunch of problems dealing with starter being way to close to the heat of the headers. Went to a smaller high torque starter and a little wiring work around and its been fine ever since. I would go to town, do a few stop start errands and it would not start. Even had to have it towed home once =< __________________ … … … … … … … … ... … … … … … … … … … … …

05-06-2015, 11:44 PM	#14
Secret Squirrel Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Cheyenne Wy Posts: 208	I've had that GM hot start on my 72 Olds, ended up going with gear reduction starter. Given the details the OP gave my money is still on the charging system. When the external regulator went out on my Olds my lights got super bright then radio went out and car died (fried my electric fuel pump). X2 on the bad/failing alt ... Dumb question but you didn't throw a belt did you? Lol I know I know I would hope the belt is on good and tight. Posted via Mobile Device

05-06-2015, 11:50 PM	#15
ufbugman Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: High springs Florida Posts: 174	Re: Got my tags and went for my first drive! and broke down belt is good and tight, I think it might be the alternator myself, advanced auto said it was good, but they also are not the bright bulbs in the package. I think my last test with all the wires removed and a test light hooked up told me the alt. But still going to check it again tomorrow before buying a new alternator The starter is Fine

05-09-2015, 10:49 PM	#17
ufbugman Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: High springs Florida Posts: 174	Re: Got my tags and went for my first drive! and broke down got it figured out! the voltage regular was not gronded good, 2 new bolts and all is fine..

05-09-2015, 11:57 PM	#18
Secret Squirrel Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Cheyenne Wy Posts: 208	Re: Got my tags and went for my first drive! and broke down Awesome, glad to hear __________________ ________________________ 72 Olds Cutlass w/442 option 69 C-10 Short Bed Fleet 1960 Biscayne Wagon/El Camino 1995 YJ 4.0 SOA SYE on 35s 01 Excursion Limited 7.3 PSD 06 Suzuki DRZ 400S



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05-10-2015, 12:12 AM	#19
In The Ten Ring Registered User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: West Virginia Posts: 6,427	Re: Got my tags and went for my first drive! and broke down Oh geeze. I wonder what surprises await me when I go for a test drive........

05-10-2015, 12:56 AM	#20
Ozzy2013 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Elkton Posts: 693	Re: Got my tags and went for my first drive! and broke down Cool at least it wasnt serious

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