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radiator upgrade
hi i am running a stock radiator in my 64 c10 and it runs a bit hot so i am wondering what is the best up grade? is there anything that will go straight in with not to much hassle
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Re: radiator upgrade
A good aluminum 2 core will cool better. Champion has alot of nice ones available.
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Re: radiator upgrade
I would want to know why its overheating! Timing, carb adjustment, clogged radiator fins, bad water pump, thermostat etc??? If it is the radiator then is it leaking, clogged fins???
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Re: radiator upgrade
What engine is in your truck? Does it have the small I6 radiator or the larger V8/292 radiator? Do you have a fan shroud?
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Re: radiator upgrade
Check out my radiator swap. Im running a 160* stat and it never moves from that temp not matter what im hauling or how fast im going.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=508507&page=4
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Re: radiator upgrade
Depending on your needs, views and who you want to support, or not
Steve Lang of Langeys Hotrod Shop (on FB) mobile 07836 244483 may be able to source what you need once you identify what you need. He brings stuff into the UK at Dollar for Pound including the VAT. Hope that helps.
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Re: radiator upgrade
+1 on the champion
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I just took my original radiator to a reputable repair shop and it was close to 400 bucks for the core/rebuild w/ powerglide. After research looks like Champion is the top dog. Good luck!
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Re: radiator upgrade
I got my 3 row auto trans champion for 209.00 to my door...ebay
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Re: radiator upgrade
I just installed a Champion 3-core in my '65 K10. It dropped right in with no drama.
![]() The shroud was fabricated by the PO, and while it doesn't cover everything, I wasn't having overheating problems before (I sprung a small leak, and since this isn't a restoration, a chose a new rad over having the old one fixed. Look for the old in the Classified soon) |
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Re: radiator upgrade
read my thread I posted Monday......this radiator perfect fit quick free shipping...under $150 and looks great installed.....with warranty.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=683738 |
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Re: radiator upgrade
Iceman....I just noticed your in England...I am assuming there will be a shipping charge to your location.
I was born in Barry Island Wales...seems we have a bit in common |
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Re: radiator upgrade
hey man im in England, i have been in touch champion radiators and they have said a 2 row is what i will need so think im gonna go for that
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Re: radiator upgrade
Gotcha...good luck
The one i showed you was a 2 row as well......as long as it works all good!! |
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Re: radiator upgrade
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I looked at several, including Champion 3 and 4 row. I ended up buying this http://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-64-65-6...item2a4ac06a83 It's just $10 more than the 2 row Champion with smaller tubing and some say it's as good or better than the 3 rows with smaller tubing. I haven't received it yet, but I liked the sellers return policy so I went with it. It's just something else to consider. If anyone knows more about the 2 row radiators with 1" tubing, please comment. |
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Champion 2 core uses .75" tubes and their 3 and 4 core's use .63" tubes. Champion also sells American Eagle radiators (the one you bought from ebay), which their 2 and 3 row/core radiators use 1" tubes. Griffin uses big 1.25" tubes in many of their radiators and so does my Entropy. This is why sometimes a 2 row radiator can be better than a 3 or 4 row with smaller tubes. IMO, the 2 row radiator you bought with 1" tubes is a better choice than the Champion 2 row with .75" tubes. |
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How do you think the Patriot 2 row would compare to the Champion 3 row? I was under the impression that they would be very close. |
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Re: radiator upgrade
Do you have a link to the Patriot radiator? I never heard of them. Google just comes up with radiators for the patriot jeep.
If it has 1" tubes and has quality core and tanks, then it should be comparable to the Champion 3 row. |
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Re: radiator upgrade
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Its an AE284 - AE stands for American Eagle Champion's standard 2 row for our trucks is an EC284 - EC for Economy Here is my radiator at Jeggs. Click on Overview. Notice they call it a Champion http://www.jegs.com/i/Champion-Cooli...AE284/10002/-1 Here is the Champion 2 row at Jeggs. Again, click Overview http://www.jegs.com/i/Champion-Cooli...EC284/10002/-1 I didn't see a lot of info but here is the site you wanted http://www.americaneagleradiator.com/ Here is some math comparing the 3 core Champion to the 2 core Patriot, from another forum. I didn't check it but here it is. 3 rows wide x .63� tubes x 2 (cuz rad tubes have 2 sides�top and bottom) x 42 rows tall x 23� wide core = 3651.5 square inches of cooling surface area. 2 rows x 1� tubes x 2 x 42 rows x 23� core = 3864 square inches of cooling surface area. Thanks Last edited by jason999; 10-02-2015 at 05:22 PM. |
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Re: radiator upgrade
I agree with your math you found there.
I did see that you bought AE from ebay before, but the patriot name you put out above through me off. Also, you can see the AE radiators on the champion website for some details too. I think you went the better route with the AE radiator for sure. Always good to research to death. |
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