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taser · 02-27-2004, 09:42 PM

who has em, what do u think? is it worth it? good sources of info,links, etc ????? -todd

Big69C20 Toy · 02-27-2004, 09:45 PM

http://members.aol.com/blackbirdstrucks/index.html is a good link. I'm REALLY debating going for it but i dont have much time right now. I also work for TRW Automotive.. so i suppose i could fab my own setup...

bad 71 chevy · 02-27-2004, 09:58 PM

Hey i am thinking about this one
http://www.brothersonlinestore.com/store_ie.asp

drink2mny · 02-27-2004, 10:42 PM

I have them, but I run the Blackbird's Custom Trucks website..

It is a night and day difference.

I should start out by asking which rearend you have..

You can check our website to see if we have a kit to fit your needs..

As for a 12 bolt rear it is not a daily kit, but can be made..

Alright done pushing my site

Now you can also search on here. There have been many threads posted about making your own and what you need..
Good informative stuff from a bunch of knowledged people.

Also if looking into buy a kit besure to look around on the net..
Some of the other guys products are a little pricey, but always an option..

And I believe some of the companies on the homepage of this site make or sell kits also..

Good luck and hope to hear from you..

Oh yeah coming next week we will be accepting PayPal for credit cards.. Its cheaper for us than to have a shopping cart page through someone else..

Low69CST · 02-28-2004, 12:14 AM

I have a disc brake rear end out of an Imperial. After i obught it and put it in, i found out later that brake parts aren't available anymore. I know some other members took 9" fords out of Lincoln Versaies (?), has discs, 9" stump, 5 on 5 bolt patern and is close to same width. I have also see disc brake kits, i have seen one high performance kit for front and back of our trucks.

67dragtruck · 02-28-2004, 12:18 AM

I've run 2 kinds.

First Lincoln Mark IV:

worked very well, not much difference in length to a factory rear. very easy to cut the pads off and weld on replacements.

Wilwood Racing Brakes.

Work very well, cost too darn much, look really cool. I do have Aerospace Components brakes on my front and I like them more than the Wilwood ones.

Tom

Low69CST · 02-28-2004, 12:42 AM

67dragtruck, you have pictures of those front brakes?

383 Stroker · 02-28-2004, 01:11 AM

My truck stop's a lot better with rear disc. Helps a lot when drag racing at a track with a short shutdown area. I used mid 90's Impala SS rear disc. I had to make a backing plate. The PBR aluminum calipers are really light. It knocked 25 lbs off the truck.

*Javy* · 02-28-2004, 07:00 AM

When I built my 56 chevy BelAir,money was no object.We built a
4-link rear suspension which required alot of work.I was convinced the front DISC brakes did 80% of the braking so I kept
the rear DRUM brakes.We were wrong.
WHEN I BUILT MY 69 CST,I STARTED WITH 4 WHEEL DISC BRAKES.
REAR DISCS REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
I highly recommend going with rear disc brakes.

I'm sure I have a good name on this forum and I would recommend buying from www.classicperform.com for your braking
needs.Classicperform builds their own product and their website
has excellant instructions.

NEVER BUY FROM BROTHER'S TRUCKS
Brothers(sisters)buys from "classicperformance" and then marks up the price to you guys.
If you are looking for trim parts,"TRUCK SHOP" in Orange,CA has the best prices.Just be patient with order desk girls.

taser · 02-29-2004, 02:13 AM

found this website thought others might find as useful as i did...
http://www.67-72suburbans.com/articles/articles.html

dmec · 03-01-2004, 05:08 AM

did you have to turn down the axle flanges to fit inside the rotors?

383 Stroker · 03-01-2004, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dmec
did you have to turn down the axle flanges to fit inside the rotors?

No, I didn't have to do anything to the axle flange.

rin68 · 03-01-2004, 02:53 PM

some pics of my rear discs. they've worked great in the limited number of miles i've driven (waiting for spring) all the parts are readily available at any parts store, except the brackets, they're an ebay item. if anyone is interested, PM me and i'll send you the details.

JDYUSA · 03-03-2004, 12:24 AM

I don't but sure like 383Storkers setup. I especially like the weight savings.

Nice brakes.

nate68 · 03-03-2004, 01:58 PM

79 Lincoln Mark V. new saddles from early classic are like 35 bucks are so. had to open the saddles up just a hair.
http://www.intlcup.com/gal/sect/userpics/caliper.JPG

Steve @ BROTHERS · 03-03-2004, 06:35 PM

I'll try to stay on High Ground here, but I wanted to rebuff the comment made by Javy in his post.

Quoted from Javy:

"NEVER BUY FROM BROTHER'S TRUCKS. Brothers(sisters)buys from "classicperformance" and then marks up the price to you guys. If you are looking for trim parts,"TRUCK SHOP" in Orange,CA has the best prices.Just be patient with order desk girls."

1) We don't buy from Classic Performance. They make good products that we have bought in the past, but we use a different supplier now that makes our stuff to our specs. Besides, is Javy suggesting that we bought it from them at retail and then "Jacked" the price to our customers? They sold it to us at wholesale and of course we marked it up, otherwise we'd be making nothing...

2) If you need trim parts, there are at least 5 suppliers that are regulars on this board you COULD go to if you wanted. GMC Paul, Ed @ Mother Truckers, Bill @ Vintage Chevy, etc... these are guys you all know and trust, use them if you don't want to use BROTHERS. I know that Javy mentioned TRUCK SHOP, but I would warn that while their prices are usually good, their quality is notoriously not so good. Additionally, why would you waste time with someone that you need to "have patience with"? Isn't your time and sanity worth more? Save your patience for dealing with your wife and kids

. Paul, Ed, Bill already KNOW TRUCKS. BROTHERS customer service guys KNOW TRUCKS too. That's what you want, right? You can deal with "Order Desk Girls" when you're at Burger King getting lunch, but you don't want to deal with them when you buy parts.

Javy obviously has a beef with us. It's understandable, but I feel like the Forum Slamming is cheap, childish and unnecessary. Obviously I need to contact him and see if we can patch things up.

Thanks for your time and attention

jmanz69 · 03-03-2004, 08:59 PM

383 Stroker,

You think you could make another set of those brackets? If so, how much? I like your set up and would like to get the brackets from someone who knows how to make it work. I like the PBR calipers. They look good and are way lighter. Any help would be good.

I've been working on a set up of my own, but don't really have the time for fabbing brackets.

Thanks

jmanz69

cochran63 · 03-03-2004, 09:54 PM

the local dirt track place is where i bought my brackets. They were 17 bucks a piece. you could get also get them for metric calipers.

jmanz69 · 03-03-2004, 11:35 PM

No dirt track really local, plus we are a long way from racing season here. Although it is supposed to be 60 on Friday. Were your brackets for the PBR type calipers? Those are really what I am looking for. I know the calipers are way more money, but they are better looking than the others. If you can get them for the PBR calipers, I would buy a set off you. As long as they are for the truck rear ends. The brake flanges are different than the cars I think. Ours are rectangle and the cars are square. At least that is what I noticed when looking one day, could be wrong though.

cochran63 · 03-04-2004, 12:29 AM

I have my setup on a ford 9 inch that is under my 63 c-10. I used 72 chevy calipers so they would be the same as the ones on the front. It is in no way high tech but it stops better than my 2001 chevy half ton.

Rod · 03-04-2004, 01:27 AM

Well, I guess I'll close this post....Javy we have a review page for reviews if you have legitimate beefs or issues. Should not have been done on this forum page here and perhaps a private message with a board member may have been a better approach.

Rod · 03-04-2004, 12:12 PM

I re-opened the thread by request...lets see if its still forthcoming.

Piper71c10 · 03-04-2004, 03:35 PM

Stockcarproducts.com is a great online source for dirt track parts. I'm not sure which of these caliper brackets (if any) would work on a truck, but it's a good place to start...

http://www.stockcarproducts.com/rsusp4.htm

Piper

cochran63 · 03-04-2004, 05:09 PM

the brackets i used were a weld on item.

*Javy* · 03-05-2004, 05:00 AM

Had a cool call from John.
This board should not have to read our differences.
John's phone call closed my "beef".I'm surprised it took so long.
I challenge you to send Josh a donation!
I'll match what you send.

02-27-2004, 09:42 PM	#1
taser Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: albuqueque Posts: 105	who has rear discs??? who has em, what do u think? is it worth it? good sources of info,links, etc ????? -todd

02-27-2004, 09:45 PM	#2
Big69C20 Toy Livin' it up. Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Richland, MI Posts: 2,212	http://members.aol.com/blackbirdstrucks/index.html is a good link. I'm REALLY debating going for it but i dont have much time right now. I also work for TRW Automotive.. so i suppose i could fab my own setup... __________________ -Greg; Sold the 69 C20. It's off to a better home with more love! Now onto the 86 CUCV M1009; K5 blazer with 6.2L diesel, corp 10 bolt axles, Detroit locker in the rear, trutrac front, 3.73 gears, 35" tires.

02-27-2004, 09:58 PM	#3
bad 71 chevy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Omaha NE 68122 Posts: 637	Hey i am thinking about this one http://www.brothersonlinestore.com/store_ie.asp __________________ 71 Chevy C/10 lwb 350 5 speed nv3500 3.73 rear end 2.5" Front Drop and 4" in the back Edelbrock perfomer rpm manifold Edelbrock 600 cfm carb Headmen headers

02-27-2004, 10:42 PM	#4
drink2mny Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: spokane wa Posts: 2,189	I have them, but I run the Blackbird's Custom Trucks website.. It is a night and day difference. I should start out by asking which rearend you have.. You can check our website to see if we have a kit to fit your needs.. As for a 12 bolt rear it is not a daily kit, but can be made.. Alright done pushing my site Now you can also search on here. There have been many threads posted about making your own and what you need.. Good informative stuff from a bunch of knowledged people. Also if looking into buy a kit besure to look around on the net.. Some of the other guys products are a little pricey, but always an option.. And I believe some of the companies on the homepage of this site make or sell kits also.. Good luck and hope to hear from you.. Oh yeah coming next week we will be accepting PayPal for credit cards.. Its cheaper for us than to have a shopping cart page through someone else.. __________________ Support The Board

02-28-2004, 12:14 AM	#5
Low69CST Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Frankfort, Kentucky, USA Posts: 2,163	I have a disc brake rear end out of an Imperial. After i obught it and put it in, i found out later that brake parts aren't available anymore. I know some other members took 9" fords out of Lincoln Versaies (?), has discs, 9" stump, 5 on 5 bolt patern and is close to same width. I have also see disc brake kits, i have seen one high performance kit for front and back of our trucks. __________________ '69 CST Short fleetside Lowered, 400 small block, 700R4, 4 wheel disc brakes, front sway bar & rear camaro sway bar (in progress) '87 V10 4x4 Short Fleetside Quad Suspension and Dual Tanks

02-28-2004, 12:18 AM	#6
67dragtruck Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bethlehem, GA, USA Posts: 389	rear brakes I've run 2 kinds. First Lincoln Mark IV: worked very well, not much difference in length to a factory rear. very easy to cut the pads off and weld on replacements. Wilwood Racing Brakes. Work very well, cost too darn much, look really cool. I do have Aerospace Components brakes on my front and I like them more than the Wilwood ones. Tom __________________ No more dragtruck for me. I'm building a new ride though. It's a '71 fleetside, 400 sbc, 700R4. Working on it now, finally. Soon to have Edelbrock Pro Flo EFI, Vintage Air, 1 piece windows, buddy buckets, etc. My new build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...17#post2861817 Best pass with the old dragtruck: 5.32 @ 131.6 mph 1/8 mile w/ a 1.25 60' Fogger/Plate 2003 Best pass with the street 406 hydraulic roller motor w/ mild plate tuneup 5.93 @ 114 mph 1/8 mile w/ a 1.29 60' 2003 or 2004

02-28-2004, 12:42 AM	#7
Low69CST Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Frankfort, Kentucky, USA Posts: 2,163	67dragtruck, you have pictures of those front brakes? __________________ '69 CST Short fleetside Lowered, 400 small block, 700R4, 4 wheel disc brakes, front sway bar & rear camaro sway bar (in progress) '87 V10 4x4 Short Fleetside Quad Suspension and Dual Tanks

02-28-2004, 01:11 AM	#8
383 Stroker Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jesup, GA Posts: 571	My truck stop's a lot better with rear disc. Helps a lot when drag racing at a track with a short shutdown area. I used mid 90's Impala SS rear disc. I had to make a backing plate. The PBR aluminum calipers are really light. It knocked 25 lbs off the truck. Attached Images __________________ Video's of my Truck Racing 1967 C-10, 383ci Sbc, TH350, 3200 stall, 3.73 gear

02-28-2004, 07:00 AM	#9
Javy Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 129	TASER When I built my 56 chevy BelAir,money was no object.We built a 4-link rear suspension which required alot of work.I was convinced the front DISC brakes did 80% of the braking so I kept the rear DRUM brakes.We were wrong. WHEN I BUILT MY 69 CST,I STARTED WITH 4 WHEEL DISC BRAKES. REAR DISCS REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I highly recommend going with rear disc brakes. I'm sure I have a good name on this forum and I would recommend buying from www.classicperform.com for your braking needs.Classicperform builds their own product and their website has excellant instructions. NEVER BUY FROM BROTHER'S TRUCKS Brothers(sisters)buys from "classicperformance" and then marks up the price to you guys. If you are looking for trim parts,"TRUCK SHOP" in Orange,CA has the best prices.Just be patient with order desk girls.

02-29-2004, 02:13 AM	#10
taser Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: albuqueque Posts: 105	found this website thought others might find as useful as i did... http://www.67-72suburbans.com/articles/articles.html __________________ 71 blazer 700r4 350 edelbrock cam, 1407 carb, holley intake, hei accel dist

03-01-2004, 05:08 AM	#11
dmec Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: yucaipa ca Posts: 580	383 stroker did you have to turn down the axle flanges to fit inside the rotors?

03-01-2004, 02:53 PM	#13
rin68 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: East Peoria, IL Posts: 600	some pics of my rear discs. they've worked great in the limited number of miles i've driven (waiting for spring) all the parts are readily available at any parts store, except the brackets, they're an ebay item. if anyone is interested, PM me and i'll send you the details. __________________ 1968 C10 - 383, non-stop project 1969 Camaro - 327, bone stock family heirloom...soon to be LS/T56, Ridetech, all the goodies

03-03-2004, 12:24 AM	#14
JDYUSA Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Grapevine, TX Posts: 122	Rear stoppers I don't but sure like 383Storkers setup. I especially like the weight savings. Nice brakes. __________________ thx, JDY

03-03-2004, 01:58 PM	#15
nate68 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: ca Posts: 1,110	79 Lincoln Mark V. new saddles from early classic are like 35 bucks are so. had to open the saddles up just a hair. http://www.intlcup.com/gal/sect/userpics/caliper.JPG __________________ 68 short step, 406/700r4, 9" w/discs.

03-03-2004, 06:35 PM	#16
Steve @ BROTHERS Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Corona,CA Posts: 48	Reply to Javy's slam I'll try to stay on High Ground here, but I wanted to rebuff the comment made by Javy in his post. Quoted from Javy: "NEVER BUY FROM BROTHER'S TRUCKS. Brothers(sisters)buys from "classicperformance" and then marks up the price to you guys. If you are looking for trim parts,"TRUCK SHOP" in Orange,CA has the best prices.Just be patient with order desk girls." 1) We don't buy from Classic Performance. They make good products that we have bought in the past, but we use a different supplier now that makes our stuff to our specs. Besides, is Javy suggesting that we bought it from them at retail and then "Jacked" the price to our customers? They sold it to us at wholesale and of course we marked it up, otherwise we'd be making nothing... 2) If you need trim parts, there are at least 5 suppliers that are regulars on this board you COULD go to if you wanted. GMC Paul, Ed @ Mother Truckers, Bill @ Vintage Chevy, etc... these are guys you all know and trust, use them if you don't want to use BROTHERS. I know that Javy mentioned TRUCK SHOP, but I would warn that while their prices are usually good, their quality is notoriously not so good. Additionally, why would you waste time with someone that you need to "have patience with"? Isn't your time and sanity worth more? Save your patience for dealing with your wife and kids . Paul, Ed, Bill already KNOW TRUCKS. BROTHERS customer service guys KNOW TRUCKS too. That's what you want, right? You can deal with "Order Desk Girls" when you're at Burger King getting lunch, but you don't want to deal with them when you buy parts. Javy obviously has a beef with us. It's understandable, but I feel like the Forum Slamming is cheap, childish and unnecessary. Obviously I need to contact him and see if we can patch things up. Thanks for your time and attention __________________ Steve Flanders BROTHERS Toll Free 800-977-2767 Local Phone 951-808-9790 Email Steve@BrothersTrucks.com Last edited by Steve @ BROTHERS; 03-03-2004 at 07:58 PM.



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03-03-2004, 08:59 PM	#17
jmanz69 Careful, they attack... Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Waterford, MI, USA Posts: 1,107	383 Stroker, You think you could make another set of those brackets? If so, how much? I like your set up and would like to get the brackets from someone who knows how to make it work. I like the PBR calipers. They look good and are way lighter. Any help would be good. I've been working on a set up of my own, but don't really have the time for fabbing brackets. Thanks jmanz69

03-03-2004, 09:54 PM	#18
cochran63 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,057	the local dirt track place is where i bought my brackets. They were 17 bucks a piece. you could get also get them for metric calipers. __________________ Youth soon passes away, but immaturity can last a life time.

03-03-2004, 11:35 PM	#19
jmanz69 Careful, they attack... Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Waterford, MI, USA Posts: 1,107	No dirt track really local, plus we are a long way from racing season here. Although it is supposed to be 60 on Friday. Were your brackets for the PBR type calipers? Those are really what I am looking for. I know the calipers are way more money, but they are better looking than the others. If you can get them for the PBR calipers, I would buy a set off you. As long as they are for the truck rear ends. The brake flanges are different than the cars I think. Ours are rectangle and the cars are square. At least that is what I noticed when looking one day, could be wrong though.

03-04-2004, 12:29 AM	#20
cochran63 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,057	I have my setup on a ford 9 inch that is under my 63 c-10. I used 72 chevy calipers so they would be the same as the ones on the front. It is in no way high tech but it stops better than my 2001 chevy half ton. __________________ Youth soon passes away, but immaturity can last a life time.

03-04-2004, 01:27 AM	#21
Rod Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Eastern - Manitoba Canada, Winnipeg Posts: 4,369	Well, I guess I'll close this post....Javy we have a review page for reviews if you have legitimate beefs or issues. Should not have been done on this forum page here and perhaps a private message with a board member may have been a better approach. __________________ Senior active founding member. 70 3/4 ton GMC Suburban 4x4 250/4 spd. 71 1/2 ton Suburban Chevy 4x4, 350/350 72 Chev 1 ton tow truck 402BB w/Holmes 440 wrecker on propane 2005 FLSTSCI Harley Springer 85 FXSB Harley Lowrider 72 Triumph 650 Bonneville 5spd "Poor people don't have hobbies" Quote from wife.

03-04-2004, 12:12 PM	#22
Rod Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Eastern - Manitoba Canada, Winnipeg Posts: 4,369	I re-opened the thread by request...lets see if its still forthcoming. __________________ Senior active founding member. 70 3/4 ton GMC Suburban 4x4 250/4 spd. 71 1/2 ton Suburban Chevy 4x4, 350/350 72 Chev 1 ton tow truck 402BB w/Holmes 440 wrecker on propane 2005 FLSTSCI Harley Springer 85 FXSB Harley Lowrider 72 Triumph 650 Bonneville 5spd "Poor people don't have hobbies" Quote from wife.

03-04-2004, 03:35 PM	#23
Piper71c10 Unending Project Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sequim, WA Posts: 337	Stockcarproducts.com is a great online source for dirt track parts. I'm not sure which of these caliper brackets (if any) would work on a truck, but it's a good place to start... http://www.stockcarproducts.com/rsusp4.htm Piper

03-04-2004, 05:09 PM	#24
cochran63 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,057	the brackets i used were a weld on item. __________________ Youth soon passes away, but immaturity can last a life time.

03-05-2004, 05:00 AM	#25
Javy Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 129	steve@brothers Had a cool call from John. This board should not have to read our differences. John's phone call closed my "beef".I'm surprised it took so long. I challenge you to send Josh a donation! I'll match what you send.

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