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Old 03-07-2016, 01:22 PM   #1
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Where to buy a bunch of Grade 8 bolts

I'd like to have a good size kit of Grade 8 stuff around for the truck (and other things). Any suggestions on where to buy a kit? I see stuff on ebay etc but I'm afraid they're likely to be Chinesium rather than real Grade 8.
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Old 03-07-2016, 01:24 PM   #2
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Your best bet is to find a hardware store that sells by the pound, or possibly a Fastenal store in your area would have what you need although they'd likely be more expensive.
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Tractor Supply sells grade 8 bolts by the pound. Best place to get them by far.
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Old 03-07-2016, 01:54 PM   #4
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A farm supply store would have them along with a Lowes or Home Depot. I'd do the farm supply before the Big Box stores.

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Your best bet is to find an actual bolt and screw house. They should be more willing to work with you on price. Fastenal is a good source but they normally only sell in box quantities and are usually pretty high. I've been in the fastener/construction supply business for over 20 years. I cringe at the thought of going to Home Depot, Lowes or any other retail outlet and buy fasteners.

Try Bay Bolt in Oakland. I found them with a quick Google search.
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Old 03-07-2016, 02:01 PM   #6
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Tractor Supply sells grade 8 bolts by the pound. Best place to get them by far.
This is where I get mine. Priced by the pound.
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Old 03-07-2016, 02:57 PM   #7
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All hardware I have seen lately from the hardware stores is from China (with us brand names on the box.) I even got some Chinese bolts from McMaster Carr.
I got a lot of grade 8 flange bolts for my replacement crank pulley online and they were from China but looked to be good quality. I would try both Ebay and online fastener suppliers and see what the price difference is. You will likely get Chinese hardware from both sources, but Ebay shipping will likely be cheaper.

I usually buy a larger quantity than I need to minimize unit shipping cost and sell the leftovers to others on Ebay when I am done with the project.

I think even the government can use Chinese fasteners now, as long as they meet ASTM certification and can provide certs with the shipment.
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Old 03-07-2016, 03:02 PM   #8
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It isn't that the Chinese can't make good products, and properly QC'd/tested Chinese Grade 8 bolts are perfectly fine. I'm afraid that, when buying from an unknown source, I'd end up with bolts marked as Grade 8 but made of cheese (or whatever happens to be cheap).

There aren't any Tractor Supply stores around here.
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Old 03-07-2016, 04:21 PM   #9
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I have to buy quantities of 5/16 bolts and nuts for my business and freight is a killer even from OH to IN. Kinda spoils the deals that I get when they're "on sale".
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Tractor Supply sells grade 8 bolts by the pound. Best place to get them by far.

Guaranteed to be from CHINA.
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Old 03-07-2016, 04:35 PM   #11
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There aren't any Tractor Supply stores around here.

Consider yourself lucky, racial slur removed, I cringe going in there 10X more than Wally World.
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Old 03-07-2016, 08:30 PM   #12
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I don't mind china bolts if they meet the specs they claim to, I just don't trust random eBay seller bolts to meet said spec.
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"Claim to" ...


They can claim what they want, I'll never trust chinese crap, and if it's made in china it's crap ..
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Old 03-08-2016, 02:20 AM   #15
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Re: Where to buy a bunch of Grade 8 bolts

Check with a local machine shop and ask where they buy !We have a ndustrial hardware store , McFadden-Dale that I could spend hours in WW Graingers is another , Fastenal , Hope this helps !
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Re: Where to buy a bunch of Grade 8 bolts

Grade 5 &8 bolts are counterfeited so much there was a major Bust a few yrs. back!. I worked for a huge Heavy equipment Dealer. They swapped from Lawson to Joe the rag man. I needed a short 3/4 bolt told the guys were just going to have to cut it off with hack saw. that will take for ever not with his crap bolts took about 30 seconds on a Grade 8 more like Grade 2. Lawson's the best they sell not so nice bolts also they have packages. what ever you get try a couple samples. compare with a hack saw side by side.
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Re: Where to buy a bunch of Grade 8 bolts

we have lowes home depot tractor supply Fastenal and grainger right in my area Fastenal is the cheapest by far in NJ and the most knowledgeable
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Re: Where to buy a bunch of Grade 8 bolts

If you have C-A-L Ranch in your area, they sell by the pound as well.
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Guaranteed to be from CHINA.
Eh, probably. I've used them a lot on the farm. Never had one break, and I've done more to a 3/8" Tractor Supply grade 8 bolt than anyone will ever do to any bolt in a squarebody truck.

I imagine you'd have a hard time finding US made Grade 8 bolts locally anywhere these days. This country doesn't manufacture much anymore.

Lots of folks online say they have Grade 8 bolts made in the USA, but again, these days, are they really?

With chickens that are killed here, shipped to China for processing, and then shipped back still being "Product of USA" I don't believe advertisements much anymore.
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They can claim what they want, I'll never trust chinese crap, and if it's made in china it's crap ..
please share with us where you're buying your "Made in USA" bolts.
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Old 03-08-2016, 05:17 PM   #21
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As I said, I don't really care about COO. I'd prefer USA but it isn't that important. I just want the bolts to meet spec, and that means buying them from a known good seller. I might also do some basic testing (build a simple jig so I can test torque at yield - just a nut, some sort of spacer, clamped in a vise, with a beam type torque wrench, and compare it to specs that I'd have to find somewhere).
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Re: Where to buy a bunch of Grade 8 bolts

we've got a bunch of fastener supply stores here in florida all selling high quality stuff// look it up in the yellow pages of the phone book to find them near you
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Re: Where to buy a bunch of Grade 8 bolts

MSC Industrial Supply is a good source for USA made fasteners. Though usually have to buy in bulk.

In my opinion, using Grade-8 for everything is a waste of money and materials. In many cases Grade-5, or even Grade-2, is more than adequate.
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Re: Where to buy a bunch of Grade 8 bolts

Id check Danforth or Fastenal. I got the Grade 8s for my spring swap from Fastenal in Burlingame. I can tell you they are a tough to cut. Ruined a couple of hacksaw blades. Grinder worked well though. Orchard and Home Depot both had the softer bolts. I don't trust them anymore.

FWIW, if you're picking the bolts up from this side of the Bay, take the San Mateo Bridge. I heard the bolts that anchor the new tower of the Bay Bridge are cracking already. Whatever you choose, don't choose the same place as CalTrans bought their bolts! Lol
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