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Houston Ben · 04-09-2016, 08:02 PM

Hi All,
I totally redid my front end with new moog upper control arms, CPP tubular lowers and sway-bar (see build thread in sig if interested). This made my steering really stiff and gave me lots of play in the steering wheel. Upon inspection I found the pitman arm twist before it starts to turn. Do I need a new steering box?

http://vid735.photobucket.com/albums...2/IMG_2718.mp4

The video doesn't do the twist justice.

Thanks,

wilkin250r · 04-09-2016, 10:15 PM

I'll be honest, I didn't see the video (can't watch it at work) but a "twist" in the pitman sounds similar to the problem I'm having.

My problem is due to my gigantic tires, but it's causing the frame to flex, and thus the steering box to move and twist before it creates enough force to move the tires. Offroad Design sells a couple different brackets to brace the frame to keep it from flexing.

chevy-fun · 04-10-2016, 12:18 AM

photocucket must be down. your video wont connect, says This site can’t be reached
vid735.photobucket.com took too long to respond. i have cpp front suspension as you do. check to see if there is a crack on frame where steering box or broken bolt. but like Wilkin says there is a brace kit to help prevent cracking from the flexing. my steering box leaks an plan on getting cpp 500 series box to replace it.

Houston Ben · 04-10-2016, 12:54 AM

I will check, I am also planning on getting the CPP 500

**hatzie** · 04-10-2016, 11:44 AM

Is there play in your tie rod ends?

I second the ORD frame braces. Get them and install them.

Matt Man · 04-10-2016, 01:16 PM

When I put the frame braces on my k10, the whole front end feels WAY more solid especially when you hit a bump on the freeway. Cant wrong with reinforcing the frame by that area.

Houston Ben · 04-10-2016, 01:34 PM

Hatzie, tie-rods and everything else are new moog. Looks like I will be looking into the frame braces and CPP. Thanks all.

chevy-fun · 04-14-2016, 03:15 PM

If your still looking to get the cpp 500 Roger has 2 new ones. could save you $50. if he still has one nxt wk i plan on getting one

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=704123

Houston Ben · 04-15-2016, 04:40 PM

Thanks Checy-fun, but I already went ahead and bout one off summit.

Question, do I really need a steering brace for 2WD?

Thanks

Houston Ben · 04-16-2016, 09:59 AM

Boy, I really screwed up some spelling there! lol

chevy-fun · 04-17-2016, 04:22 PM

Just depends. If your have big tire setup i would. The frame flexes. My 86 was stock an it still cracked. I plan on bracing mine

04-09-2016, 08:02 PM	#1
Houston Ben Registered User Join Date: May 2013 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 713	Time for new steering box? Hi All, I totally redid my front end with new moog upper control arms, CPP tubular lowers and sway-bar (see build thread in sig if interested). This made my steering really stiff and gave me lots of play in the steering wheel. Upon inspection I found the pitman arm twist before it starts to turn. Do I need a new steering box? http://vid735.photobucket.com/albums...2/IMG_2718.mp4 The video doesn't do the twist justice. Thanks, __________________ 1986 C10, 2011 5.3 w/6L80, 3.42 w/ Detroit TrutTrac Build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=584532

04-09-2016, 10:15 PM	#2
wilkin250r Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lake Tahoe, Nevada Posts: 755	Re: Time for new steering box? I'll be honest, I didn't see the video (can't watch it at work) but a "twist" in the pitman sounds similar to the problem I'm having. My problem is due to my gigantic tires, but it's causing the frame to flex, and thus the steering box to move and twist before it creates enough force to move the tires. Offroad Design sells a couple different brackets to brace the frame to keep it from flexing. __________________ I know a little about cars, but if you have a question about electricity or sport quads, I'm your man!!!

04-10-2016, 12:18 AM	#3
chevy-fun Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Arlington, Tx Posts: 338	Re: Time for new steering box? photocucket must be down. your video wont connect, says This site can’t be reached vid735.photobucket.com took too long to respond. i have cpp front suspension as you do. check to see if there is a crack on frame where steering box or broken bolt. but like Wilkin says there is a brace kit to help prevent cracking from the flexing. my steering box leaks an plan on getting cpp 500 series box to replace it.

04-10-2016, 12:54 AM	#4
Houston Ben Registered User Join Date: May 2013 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 713	Re: Time for new steering box? I will check, I am also planning on getting the CPP 500 __________________ 1986 C10, 2011 5.3 w/6L80, 3.42 w/ Detroit TrutTrac Build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=584532

04-10-2016, 11:44 AM	#5
hatzie Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wentworth, NH Posts: 4,941	Re: Time for new steering box? Is there play in your tie rod ends? I second the ORD frame braces. Get them and install them. __________________ 1959 M35A2 LDT465-1D SOLD 1967 Dodge W200 B383, NP420/NP201 SOLD 1969 Dodge Polara 500 B383, A833 SOLD 1972 Ford F250 FE390, NP435/NP205 SOLD 1976 Chevy K20, 6.5L, NV4500/NP208 SOLD 1986 M1008 CUCV SOLD 2000 GMC C2500, TD6.5L, NV4500 2005 Chevy Silverado LS 2500HD 6.0L 4L80E/NP263 2009 Impala SS LS4 V8 RTFM... GM Parts Books, GM Schematics, GM service manuals, and GM training materials... 1973-1991 GM Light Truck Service, Unit/Overhaul, Wiring Manuals, Parts Books and Some 1968-1999 GM Service Training textbooks in PDF 1988-1998 GMT400 CK service manual project 1988-1993 GMT400 CK parts books. 1967-1972 GM Light, Medium, & Heavy Truck Service Manuals in PDF Please include at least the year and model in your threads. It'll be easier to answer your questions. And please let us know if and how your repairs were successful.

04-10-2016, 01:16 PM	#6
Matt Man Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Buhl, Idaho Posts: 1,438	Re: Time for new steering box? When I put the frame braces on my k10, the whole front end feels WAY more solid especially when you hit a bump on the freeway. Cant wrong with reinforcing the frame by that area. __________________ 86 c30 crew cab dually 454/400 4/6 drop SOLD 1-8-11 1981 chevy K10 short Bed Scottsdale SOLD 10-26-2020 67 GMC Stepside Straight six/3 on the tree "The Peach" 2020 Silverado Double Cab LT Z71 5.3 8 speed Daily Driver K10 build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=671934 The Peach build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=733903

04-10-2016, 01:34 PM	#7
Houston Ben Registered User Join Date: May 2013 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 713	Re: Time for new steering box? Hatzie, tie-rods and everything else are new moog. Looks like I will be looking into the frame braces and CPP. Thanks all. __________________ 1986 C10, 2011 5.3 w/6L80, 3.42 w/ Detroit TrutTrac Build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=584532

04-14-2016, 03:15 PM	#8
chevy-fun Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Arlington, Tx Posts: 338	Re: Time for new steering box? If your still looking to get the cpp 500 Roger has 2 new ones. could save you $50. if he still has one nxt wk i plan on getting one http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=704123

04-15-2016, 04:40 PM	#9
Houston Ben Registered User Join Date: May 2013 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 713	Re: Time for new steering box? Thanks Checy-fun, but I already went ahead and bout one off summit. Question, do I really need a steering brace for 2WD? Thanks __________________ 1986 C10, 2011 5.3 w/6L80, 3.42 w/ Detroit TrutTrac Build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=584532

04-16-2016, 09:59 AM	#10
Houston Ben Registered User Join Date: May 2013 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 713	Re: Time for new steering box? Boy, I really screwed up some spelling there! lol __________________ 1986 C10, 2011 5.3 w/6L80, 3.42 w/ Detroit TrutTrac Build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=584532

04-17-2016, 04:22 PM	#11
chevy-fun Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Arlington, Tx Posts: 338	Re: Time for new steering box? Just depends. If your have big tire setup i would. The frame flexes. My 86 was stock an it still cracked. I plan on bracing mine



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