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Steering wheel shakes going over 35 mph. Why?
Hey friends, hopefully I could get some answers and advice. So my truck was out of commission for a month. I did a dual MC conversion, upper steering wheel bearing, and brake drum adjustments, and also had to replace some lug nut studs and lug nuts because a few got stripped in the process. But since I've been back in the road for the past week, my steering wheel started to shake pretty bad going about 35mph.
Now at first I thought it was because I may have adjusted my brake drums to tight, So I backed them off, but still shakes. Checked all the adjustments i did on my 3 on the tree, Still shakes I also had re adjusted my parking brake brackets that are located under the 3 speed tail shaft, now I don't have to pull my parking leaver as far anymore, but I don't think that this would be the problem. One last possible thing I believe is the problem. When I had taken my wheels off to adjust the brakes, some lug nuts and studs got stripped since it seemed like that were never taken off before, I had to replace a few that I bought from autozone. Currently I have 3 out of 6 brand new studs and lug nuts on the front passenger And 2 out of 6 on the rear passenger, My driver side front and back didn't have and stripped lug nuts or studs. I also would like to add, when I brake, I noticed that my truck wants to go towards the right and I have to steer it to the left to keep it straight. So I would like to conclude that maybe if possible have a wheel balancing problem on my passenger side(front and back) wheels? I've heard that wheel balancing can make the steering wheel shake. Anyways, hopefully anyone who has more experience than I do, could shine some light on my problem. Thanks everyone, and thank you for reading and commenting. Happy Trunkin' Isaiah. |
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Re: Steering wheel shakes going over 35 mph. Why?
For the shaking problem, does it happen at a certain rpm or speed because my dads dart had a problem exactly like that and the steering wheel would shake like crazy. What happened was the ujoint clip came off and the ujoint was starting to come out. So check your ujoints, but that might not be the problem as it sounds like it has something to do with the brakes
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Re: Steering wheel shakes going over 35 mph. Why?
Did you replace the studs with the same right ones. Do the new ones match the old ones exactly.
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Re: Steering wheel shakes going over 35 mph. Why?
When my truck pulled to the right when I braked I had a bad front right wheel cylinder.
I would have your wheels rebalanced just to rule that out. |
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Re: Steering wheel shakes going over 35 mph. Why?
I forgot to mention that I found a broken bottom spring in the front drivers drum. All the parts stores were giving me a issue on sourcing me just that one specific spring. So I am waiting on a drum brake rebuild kit right now. All my wheel cylinders seem good tho. It never had done that before I parked it. Thanks for replying
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Re: Steering wheel shakes going over 35 mph. Why?
No, not if you get 24 that are too long.
Experiment to narrow it down. Jack up the front one that has new studs, place a chunk of wood or something solid against the outside edge of the tire and rotate the tire. If the tire doesn't touch the wood in the full rotation, then you know where the problem is. Watch for a wobble. Or another possibility! Did you get the hubs torqued back into place correctly when you had them off for stud replacement? |
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Re: Steering wheel shakes going over 35 mph. Why?
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I believe that I did torque them down right. I did them all in sequence as tight as I possibly could get them. I am gonna try the test you mentioned tomorrow, if all else fails I'll just replace all the studs and lug nuts. |
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Re: Steering wheel shakes going over 35 mph. Why?
Hubs, not lugs. Hubs is the part the studs are in.
Wheel bearings need to be torqued properly. And wheel studs need to be torque properly too or you can warp the hub. |
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Re: Steering wheel shakes going over 35 mph. Why?
I check the tour we specs, I didn't know there were any, I was taught tighten the lug nuts on any car really tight by hand... Oops... So if they are warped, where can I find a new wheel hub?
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Re: Steering wheel shakes going over 35 mph. Why?
Likely the parts section on the forum.
But you're getting ahead of yourself. Check for wobble first. |
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Re: Steering wheel shakes going over 35 mph. Why?
Idler arm, tie rod ends or ball joints.
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Re: Steering wheel shakes going over 35 mph. Why?
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Did you pull your hubs off when you installed new studs? Did you get the bearings tightened correctly? If too loose, this can cause them to wobble, causing the shaking. If too tight, you burn up the bearings. Brakes are not going to make any shaking until you apply the brakes.
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Re: Steering wheel shakes going over 35 mph. Why?
If you are drum front truck, many drums have a three(I think??) little nubs on them. The wheel usually has indents so it can sit flush against the drum. If you dont have the wheel positioned so the drum nub is in the indent, it could cause the wheel to not be mounted flush against the drum and could be off slightly.
Other than that, as balesjb said: Idler arm, tie rod ends or ball joints. Just because it wasn't shaking before, doesn't mean it wasn't on it way out the door. IMO, If steering/suspension parts were close to being needed to be replaced, Jacking the front end up and down could have put the stress on them to make them worse.
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Damn I'm afraid I my have done serious damage... |
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Re: Steering wheel shakes going over 35 mph. Why?
if it didn't do it before you changed the stud and does it after you changed the studs; where do you think the problem comes from. have you checked the wheel nuts to see whether or not that they are all tight. when you pulled the studs thru did you have the tapered side(wheel nut) towards the hub or away. did you use a spacer between the nut and hub incase the nut bottomed out on the stud. you did state that the new studs were longer. were they longer also in the spline or did you notice at all. in other words are you sure that the stud seated against the inside of the hub. if the spline is sticking thru the hub the nut could bottom out against that, but the wheel could still be loose
hammering out wheel stud while the hub is installed is not best for the wheel bearings either ron |
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Re: Steering wheel shakes going over 35 mph. Why?
Bias ply tires?
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Re: Steering wheel shakes going over 35 mph. Why?
Bias ply tires can get flat spots that will raise hell with steering and shaking
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Re: Steering wheel shakes going over 35 mph. Why?
and they usually disappear when they warm up.
when radials were first coming into vogue in the 60's people were mixing them up and you could get that feeling ron |
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Re: Steering wheel shakes going over 35 mph. Why?
I have new radial tires
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