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Lowered13 · 05-26-2017, 04:41 PM

Hello I am looking for some information. I am looking into swapping a diesel engine into a 67-72 Chevy c10 and narrowed it down to an lbz or an Ecodiesel. I am wanting the ability to run b100 though the engine and I know that you can't with the Ecodiesel because of the particulate filter. What I am wondering is that if I were to swap in the Ecodiesel would I have to install the diesel particulate filter to comply with regulations or do the regulations apply to the truck itself and not the engine installed? I know if there was no particulate filter that I would need to reprogram it, just need to know if I can even do it legally.
Thankyou for the help in advance.

Tx Firefighter · 05-26-2017, 05:00 PM

You'll have to reference your own state's laws.

I'm sure folks will chime in with anecdotes of their particular situation, but unless they are from Maine, it's not pertinent.

**HO455** · 05-26-2017, 11:20 PM

You should repost this in the diesel engine section. Your more likely to find the answer there.
Good luck.

AZ 67 C10 · 05-27-2017, 04:46 AM

Really depends on your states emissions laws. The mouth breathers here look for specific components relating to emissions. 9/10 times they have no idea what they are looking at, rather just if it is there or not. If you are required to have DPF you can always remove the innards of it and they would never know it isn't functioning. Also a LBZ doesn't have a DPF and its a GM motor. Don't soil your truck with an ecodiesel

NC_John · 05-27-2017, 06:54 AM

State and federal laws usually dictate that the emissions must be as was applicable for the model year of the vehicle, not the engine.

BUT - Can you get a tuner (a bullydog for example) for the engine you are contemplating? Usually you'll have to program out the EGR, DPF, DEF (done by installing an "off-road high-sulfur" tune) to remove that stuff and keep everything happy. Otherwise the computer will be eternally pissed off and you'll probably be constantly dealing with MIL lights and derating issues.

Lowered13 · 05-28-2017, 08:34 PM

Alright thanks for the advice and I know that my dd truck (1977 k10) does not have to have a catalytic filter because it is old enough it didn't come with one but I still have a 350 in it so didn;t know if stuff like that changed with the engine or with truck year. Also i know that the LBZ doesn't have a DPF but are harder to find and weigh a lot more than the new 3.0L Ecodiesel, so I would need to beef up the front end parts to hold the LBZ. Both have their advantages.

05-26-2017, 04:41 PM	#1
Lowered13 Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Location: Bangor Maine Posts: 84	Diesel Particulate Filter Hello I am looking for some information. I am looking into swapping a diesel engine into a 67-72 Chevy c10 and narrowed it down to an lbz or an Ecodiesel. I am wanting the ability to run b100 though the engine and I know that you can't with the Ecodiesel because of the particulate filter. What I am wondering is that if I were to swap in the Ecodiesel would I have to install the diesel particulate filter to comply with regulations or do the regulations apply to the truck itself and not the engine installed? I know if there was no particulate filter that I would need to reprogram it, just need to know if I can even do it legally. Thankyou for the help in advance.

05-26-2017, 05:00 PM	#2
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: Diesel Particulate Filter You'll have to reference your own state's laws. I'm sure folks will chime in with anecdotes of their particular situation, but unless they are from Maine, it's not pertinent. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

05-26-2017, 11:20 PM	#3
HO455 Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 11,284	Re: Diesel Particulate Filter You should repost this in the diesel engine section. Your more likely to find the answer there. Good luck. __________________ Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban (the WMB),1988 S10 Blazer (the Stink10 II),1969 GTO (the Goat), 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford OHC six 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird (the DBP Bird). 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377

05-27-2017, 04:46 AM	#4
AZ 67 C10 Registered User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Goodyear, AZ Posts: 70	Re: Diesel Particulate Filter Really depends on your states emissions laws. The mouth breathers here look for specific components relating to emissions. 9/10 times they have no idea what they are looking at, rather just if it is there or not. If you are required to have DPF you can always remove the innards of it and they would never know it isn't functioning. Also a LBZ doesn't have a DPF and its a GM motor. Don't soil your truck with an ecodiesel

05-27-2017, 06:54 AM	#5
NC_John Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Rockwell, NC Posts: 1,639	Re: Diesel Particulate Filter State and federal laws usually dictate that the emissions must be as was applicable for the model year of the vehicle, not the engine. BUT - Can you get a tuner (a bullydog for example) for the engine you are contemplating? Usually you'll have to program out the EGR, DPF, DEF (done by installing an "off-road high-sulfur" tune) to remove that stuff and keep everything happy. Otherwise the computer will be eternally pissed off and you'll probably be constantly dealing with MIL lights and derating issues. __________________ 1970 C-10 LWB "Blu" Instagram (current build pictures) 70_nc_c10

05-28-2017, 08:34 PM	#6
Lowered13 Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Location: Bangor Maine Posts: 84	Re: Diesel Particulate Filter Alright thanks for the advice and I know that my dd truck (1977 k10) does not have to have a catalytic filter because it is old enough it didn't come with one but I still have a 350 in it so didn;t know if stuff like that changed with the engine or with truck year. Also i know that the LBZ doesn't have a DPF but are harder to find and weigh a lot more than the new 3.0L Ecodiesel, so I would need to beef up the front end parts to hold the LBZ. Both have their advantages.



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