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Pleasants9 · 02-04-2018, 06:44 AM

Good morning all. I have been wanting a 1960-1961 chevy apache truck for sometime now. I just recently came across one available at a reasonable price but have some questions. The seller is claiming it to be a 1960 chevy 1 ton truck with a 327 and 4 speed trans. By the limited pictures it definitely looks to have the front end of a 1960-1961 apache front end. There is no badging but the presence of dually tires in the back and claiming to be a 1 ton makes me assume it is an apache 30. Everything i find though doesn't support a 327 being an option in this year truck. I plan to ask him for some more photos and the vin to verify a few things. The truck does look to have a fair amount of surface rust and the bed is missing. Any specific questions or photos I should ask for? I am new to the older chevy truck community but I have owned and restored my 1982 corvette over the last 10 years.

-Leighton

UKNOWME · 02-04-2018, 10:44 AM

As I recently found out, those were all cab and chassis pickups so most of the beds have been removed. The Apache 30 I just picked up has an in-line 6.

SkinnyG · 02-04-2018, 12:30 PM

I have documentation on '61s, and the C30 was available with the 235 I6 or the 283 V8.

But a lot has happened since 1960 - no guarantee that it's original.

**60-66** · 02-04-2018, 01:23 PM

The 327 wasn't even introduced till 1962 , meaning there was no 327 engines at all prior to 1962. My 1960 C30 is a 283 but 235s were available.

**DPowers** · 02-04-2018, 02:15 PM

'60 C30 should look like this. Original V8 truck may have some desirable options. VIN and engine code will tell the tale.

**jayoldschool** · 02-04-2018, 02:21 PM

Does it have a roller cam?
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I couldn't resist.

**DPowers** · 02-04-2018, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jayoldschool

Does it have a roller cam?
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I couldn't resist.

You had to go there...

rvrfoot · 02-04-2018, 03:35 PM

You guys are putting salt in the wound. hahaha

**The Rocknrod** · 02-04-2018, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jayoldschool

Does it have a roller cam?...

"Niagra Falls"

**Captainfab** · 02-04-2018, 10:18 PM

It would not have come from the factory with a 327, but that doesn't mean that the engine is not a 327. You will have to check the suffix code on the right front of the block.

andyh1956 · 02-04-2018, 10:58 PM

Check to see if the truck has the same Budd rims on the front as the rear. If not, it COULD be a truck some one has installed a C30 rear axle in.

Pleasants9 · 02-05-2018, 01:40 PM

Talked with seller. Truck has not ran in a few years, he pulled it out of an overgrown yard. It has aftermarket seats i can tell from the photos. Front rims seem to match with rear dually rims.

Vin: 0C413S107635

It definitely has some rust on the body, he is selling this thing cheap though and i have time. How difficult is it to find replacement panels and such for this type truck? I am competent with my welder.

I am budgeting for a full rebuild on this thing.

UKNOWME · 02-05-2018, 02:10 PM

Show us the pics? I’d love to see it

Pleasants9 · 02-05-2018, 02:20 PM

The initial plan once I get shipping quotes from TX to FL is to see the feasibility of getting current drive train operable for at least around the yard, then body work to fix all the cancer. Once that is caught up, pending status of the engine just drop a crate motor in until I have more money saved up to continue upgrades. I have a feeling the motor won't be original, but maybe. I'm paying $800 as long as i can secure transportation/shipment.

jchav62 · 02-05-2018, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasants9

The initial plan once I get shipping quotes from TX to FL is to see the feasibility of getting current drive train operable for at least around the yard, then body work to fix all the cancer. Once that is caught up, pending status of the engine just drop a crate motor in until I have more money saved up to continue upgrades. I have a feeling the motor won't be original, but maybe. I'm paying $800 as long as i can secure transportation/shipment.

Judging by the hood emblem, the engine won't be original. The Bowtie without the "V" indicates it was originally a 6 banger.

jchav62 · 02-05-2018, 05:59 PM

Cool rig by the way!

shp4man · 02-05-2018, 07:22 PM

Looks like an old tow truck, The A/C unit in the glove box is a unique touch. How much money do you have? Cause it's gonna take some of it.

**jayoldschool** · 02-05-2018, 07:38 PM

Is it your dream to have a heavy duty old truck? If not, save the shipping, and look for something else.

**DPowers** · 02-05-2018, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayoldschool

Is it your dream to have a heavy duty old truck? If not, save the shipping, and look for something else.

Cool truck but Jay does have a point.

Jeffh · 02-05-2018, 08:53 PM

Unless you are already in love with it I would look for something closer that I could see in person before plunking down any cash. They always look better in the pictures than they do in person. Lots of these old trucks out there if you're patient and do a little looking.

Pleasants9 · 02-05-2018, 10:58 PM

I'm not in love with this one, but at $800 it seems like a good deal still. I really have a craving for a 1960-1962 chevy apache. Usually they seeem to be in the double digits even in rough shape.

**DPowers** · 02-06-2018, 12:25 AM

We are just offering opinions. Your decision.

UKNOWME · 02-06-2018, 01:01 AM

Interesting that it’s a 5 lug dually. I never knew they had 5 lug heavy duty trucks. My 61 is 8 lug.

**Captainfab** · 02-06-2018, 02:15 AM

I think that may actually be a C40, not a C30.

Pleasants9 · 02-06-2018, 08:44 AM

I think you're right since the vin is 1C41....

02-04-2018, 06:44 AM	#1
Pleasants9 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 6	Starting on the Right Foot Good morning all. I have been wanting a 1960-1961 chevy apache truck for sometime now. I just recently came across one available at a reasonable price but have some questions. The seller is claiming it to be a 1960 chevy 1 ton truck with a 327 and 4 speed trans. By the limited pictures it definitely looks to have the front end of a 1960-1961 apache front end. There is no badging but the presence of dually tires in the back and claiming to be a 1 ton makes me assume it is an apache 30. Everything i find though doesn't support a 327 being an option in this year truck. I plan to ask him for some more photos and the vin to verify a few things. The truck does look to have a fair amount of surface rust and the bed is missing. Any specific questions or photos I should ask for? I am new to the older chevy truck community but I have owned and restored my 1982 corvette over the last 10 years. -Leighton

02-04-2018, 10:44 AM	#2
UKNOWME Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Clovis, NM Posts: 2,705	Re: Starting on the Right Foot As I recently found out, those were all cab and chassis pickups so most of the beds have been removed. The Apache 30 I just picked up has an in-line 6. __________________ 2018 Audi S5- wife's ride 1980 Chevy Scottsdale http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=543511 1981 Chevy Silverado- in pieces 1964 Chevy c10 2017 Jeep Wrangler JKU

02-04-2018, 12:30 PM	#3
SkinnyG Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Beautiful BC, Canada, eh?! Posts: 2,283	Re: Starting on the Right Foot I have documentation on '61s, and the C30 was available with the 235 I6 or the 283 V8. But a lot has happened since 1960 - no guarantee that it's original. __________________ 1961 Apache: "Grabber Orange" Shortboxed, pancake, step-notch, air-ride, turbo, LS 1977 Silverado: Shortboxed & dropped, potato-potato V8 Pontiac Firefly (Chevy Sprint): The ultimate engine swap: 5.7L in a 1.0L bag Lotus Super 7 Replica: Scratch-built street-legal rollerskate

02-04-2018, 01:23 PM	#4
60-66 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,329	Re: Starting on the Right Foot The 327 wasn't even introduced till 1962 , meaning there was no 327 engines at all prior to 1962. My 1960 C30 is a 283 but 235s were available. __________________ IS IT an EATON or Chevrolet rear axle https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=843778 The hubcap thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=702839 WANTED : 1963-1966 6 Cylinder Fan Shroud WANTED :1964-1966 PANEL TRUCK

02-04-2018, 02:15 PM	#5
DPowers One foot in front of the other Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Parrottsville, TN Posts: 5,454	Re: Starting on the Right Foot '60 C30 should look like this. Original V8 truck may have some desirable options. VIN and engine code will tell the tale. Attached Images __________________ DP's 66 Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=361556

02-04-2018, 02:21 PM	#6
jayoldschool Moderator Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 2,181	Re: Starting on the Right Foot Does it have a roller cam? . .. ... I couldn't resist.

02-04-2018, 03:35 PM	#8
rvrfoot Registered User Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: san bernardino ca Posts: 1,611	Re: Starting on the Right Foot You guys are putting salt in the wound. hahaha

02-04-2018, 10:18 PM	#10
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,252	Re: Starting on the Right Foot It would not have come from the factory with a 327, but that doesn't mean that the engine is not a 327. You will have to check the suffix code on the right front of the block. __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE

02-04-2018, 10:58 PM	#11
andyh1956 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: thomastown mississippi Posts: 1,261	Re: Starting on the Right Foot Check to see if the truck has the same Budd rims on the front as the rear. If not, it COULD be a truck some one has installed a C30 rear axle in.

02-05-2018, 01:40 PM	#12
Pleasants9 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 6	Re: Starting on the Right Foot Talked with seller. Truck has not ran in a few years, he pulled it out of an overgrown yard. It has aftermarket seats i can tell from the photos. Front rims seem to match with rear dually rims. Vin: 0C413S107635 It definitely has some rust on the body, he is selling this thing cheap though and i have time. How difficult is it to find replacement panels and such for this type truck? I am competent with my welder. I am budgeting for a full rebuild on this thing.

02-05-2018, 02:10 PM	#13
UKNOWME Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Clovis, NM Posts: 2,705	Re: Starting on the Right Foot Show us the pics? I’d love to see it __________________ 2018 Audi S5- wife's ride 1980 Chevy Scottsdale http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=543511 1981 Chevy Silverado- in pieces 1964 Chevy c10 2017 Jeep Wrangler JKU

02-05-2018, 02:20 PM	#14
Pleasants9 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 6	Re: Starting on the Right Foot The initial plan once I get shipping quotes from TX to FL is to see the feasibility of getting current drive train operable for at least around the yard, then body work to fix all the cancer. Once that is caught up, pending status of the engine just drop a crate motor in until I have more money saved up to continue upgrades. I have a feeling the motor won't be original, but maybe. I'm paying $800 as long as i can secure transportation/shipment. Attached Images Last edited by Pleasants9; 02-05-2018 at 03:16 PM.

02-05-2018, 05:59 PM	#16
jchav62 1962 C-10 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Las Vegas, New Mexico Posts: 4,978	Re: Starting on the Right Foot Cool rig by the way! __________________ Joseph Chavez "See the USA in a Chevrolet!!" ......................_____ .........________//__{\_____ ,,,,,,,/__(O)___//___/__(O)_/ 1962 C10 Shortbed Fleetside 327/th350 GV overdrive 1974 C10 Longbed Fleetside 350/th350 "The Trash Truck" 1999 Chevy 2500 OBS, Longbed 5.7/4L80E 4x4 2015 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x4

02-05-2018, 07:22 PM	#17
shp4man Registered User Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 557	Re: Starting on the Right Foot Looks like an old tow truck, The A/C unit in the glove box is a unique touch. How much money do you have? Cause it's gonna take some of it. __________________ Everybody has to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer.

02-05-2018, 07:38 PM	#18
jayoldschool Moderator Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 2,181	Re: Starting on the Right Foot Is it your dream to have a heavy duty old truck? If not, save the shipping, and look for something else.



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02-05-2018, 08:53 PM	#20
Jeffh Registered User Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Red Oak Iowa Posts: 225	Re: Starting on the Right Foot Unless you are already in love with it I would look for something closer that I could see in person before plunking down any cash. They always look better in the pictures than they do in person. Lots of these old trucks out there if you're patient and do a little looking.

02-05-2018, 10:58 PM	#21
Pleasants9 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 6	Re: Starting on the Right Foot I'm not in love with this one, but at $800 it seems like a good deal still. I really have a craving for a 1960-1962 chevy apache. Usually they seeem to be in the double digits even in rough shape.

02-06-2018, 12:25 AM	#22
DPowers One foot in front of the other Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Parrottsville, TN Posts: 5,454	Re: Starting on the Right Foot We are just offering opinions. Your decision. __________________ DP's 66 Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=361556

02-06-2018, 01:01 AM	#23
UKNOWME Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Clovis, NM Posts: 2,705	Re: Starting on the Right Foot Interesting that it’s a 5 lug dually. I never knew they had 5 lug heavy duty trucks. My 61 is 8 lug. __________________ 2018 Audi S5- wife's ride 1980 Chevy Scottsdale http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=543511 1981 Chevy Silverado- in pieces 1964 Chevy c10 2017 Jeep Wrangler JKU

02-06-2018, 02:15 AM	#24
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,252	Re: Starting on the Right Foot I think that may actually be a C40, not a C30. __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE

02-06-2018, 08:44 AM	#25
Pleasants9 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 6	Re: Starting on the Right Foot I think you're right since the vin is 1C41....

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