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05-01-2019, 08:01 PM
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Motor Mount Perches?
Hi Folks, I have been trying to replace the Motor Mount Perches in my 1971 Chevy K20 Pickup. The VIN number states the truck came with a V8. Some previous owner stuffed a 454 in it, using the what I think is the original Crossmember and Perches which should have been for a Chevy 350. The 454 is hitting the firewall in two places. I want to move it forward but I cant find replacement perches. Mine are badly worn. Does anybody recognize these? One picture is the crossmember and the other picture is the Perch that came out of the Truck and the other Perch is what LMC sent me for a Small Block V8. If anybody can ID my Crossmember and Engine Perches I would greatly appreciate it. Cheers, Jack
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05-01-2019, 08:07 PM
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Re: Motor Mount Perches?
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05-01-2019, 08:18 PM
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Re: Motor Mount Perches?
Thanks for the picture. None of those look like mine. There are no other holes in my frame that would suggest a different crossmember and the ones in your picture won't even come close to bolting up.
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05-01-2019, 09:12 PM
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Re: Motor Mount Perches?
You have a four wheel drive truck and all of the other perches are from 2x4 trucks. Move the entire crossmember and mounts forward. Unlike a 2x4 truck, the suspension is not attached to the crossmember.
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05-01-2019, 09:23 PM
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Re: Motor Mount Perches?
That's what I planned on doing but my Perches are pretty worn. I would like to replace them. Any idea of a source? I tried Brothers, LMC, Classic and a couple of others. No luck.
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05-01-2019, 09:35 PM
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Re: Motor Mount Perches?
Well, I found the perches on page 149 of the 67-72 factory assembly manual. Still doesn't help me any as I don't have a part number or a source for them.
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05-01-2019, 10:18 PM
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Re: Motor Mount Perches?
To my knowledge, they aren’t reproduced. What is the worn area you speak of?
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05-01-2019, 10:30 PM
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Re: Motor Mount Perches?
The flat spot where the engine mount sits on the perch is almost worn through from the steel part of the engine mount. The rubber was compressed to the point that it was metal to metal contact. I'm not sure if these motor mounts are the correct ones for the perches. Also the hole in the middle is elongated. I'm not sure if there is a bushing that is supposed to go there as the through bolt from the engine mount is much smaller in diameter than the hole in the perch.
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05-02-2019, 01:15 AM
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Re: Motor Mount Perches?
I've seen that before where the metal rubs a nice slot from the vibration. All I did was weld up the area and sanded it back down. Touch of paint got it looking like brand new. Took less than an hour
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05-02-2019, 09:08 AM
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Re: Motor Mount Perches?
Thanks for the suggestion. That might work for me.
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05-02-2019, 06:57 PM
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Re: Motor Mount Perches?
The hole on your mount isn't that bad. The big block trucks had a larger hole than the small block trucks.
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05-03-2019, 12:09 AM
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Re: Motor Mount Perches?
Quote:
Here’s a pic after one of the repairs.
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05-03-2019, 12:10 AM
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Re: Motor Mount Perches?
The 71 K20 didn't come with a big block. I believe it was an option on the C models. Supposedly my perches are for the small block 350. I'm thinking there should be a bushing or something to take up the space around the skinny ass bolt that goes through that hole. The other perch is much worse than the one in the photo. I held the new engine mount up to the old perch and it does seem to fit marginally okay, but it sure leaves a lot of room for slop. I would think the GM engineers would have come up with something a little better. That being said I just finished tearing down my NP205 transfer case and rebuilding it. I'm not sure what planet the guy was from who designed that case but clearly no thought was given to rebuilding it. Thanks, Jack
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05-04-2019, 10:35 AM
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Re: Motor Mount Perches?
These were from a 72 K5 Blazer 350/350...NP205 transfer case.....can post in for sale section if your interested....LMK
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05-04-2019, 10:47 AM
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Re: Motor Mount Perches?
It is possible that square body BBC perches were used as they may have junk yard items when your truck was converted.
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05-04-2019, 11:33 AM
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Re: Motor Mount Perches?
Anything is possible with this truck.
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05-04-2019, 11:34 AM
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Re: Motor Mount Perches?
I will let you know if I need those perches. Thanks
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09-07-2019, 10:13 AM
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Re: Motor Mount Perches?
NotSolo, Do you still have the perches? Jack
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