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07-22-2020, 05:51 AM | #1 |
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So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
....it was a nice 1968 K20 that I was extremely excited to get! I talked to the fella on the phone and sent text back and forth. We agreed on price. I asked if a personal check was OK instead of a wire transfer, I said I can’t pick the truck up for a couple months (he said OK) but I’ll pay you IN FULL now ($11,500) and there will be plenty of time for the check to clear the bank. He agreed. The check was sent along with a picture of the envelope the day I dropped it in the mail.
Fast forward to yesterday...this is a text I got, now mind you, no phone call, no I’m sorry.....just this. “I just got your envelope and mailed it back to you. I thought it was lost or not mailed so I showed the truck to a guy and he bought it on the spot“ Does a persons word mean nothing anymore? When I grew up your word meant everything, it was your bond. |
07-22-2020, 06:22 AM | #2 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
That's prime dog eat dog mentality. That text was pure BS. A call or text to assure the money was sent was in order once the seller had doubt and certainly once someone else came along with an offer. "I have it sold with money on the way. Let me check status with the buyer and you have first option if he has flaked out". If buyer #2 is a serious buyer, you are not jeopardizing a sale to him if buyer #1 hasn't done what he said. It's not like he'll go buy one elsewhere around the corner because he needs the truck today. This isn't a new car dealership deal where multiple dealers offer the same thing and would be glad to take a sale from their competition... right now!
There is the sick side of dealing that says first person with money in hand gets the prize. I figure those people know their word is no good so they don't trust the word of others. We expect of others what we know they can expect of ourselves. If you are trusting and honest you expect that of others. The suspicious ones are the guilty ones. I saw an enclosed 10' trailer with a for sale sign, $800, in front of a stained glass business around the corner from the scrap yard. It was the middle of the work day, middle of the week, and I was getting rid of the aluminum siding we had just stripped, then get back to my crew to finish the work day. It was such a good deal I had to make time to stop. I told the lady my situation, no time to go get cash, and asked if I could give her a $200 check and wait until Friday afternoon to pay the total in cash, get the title, and take it away. She agreed to that. The deal was made, I had just bought a trailer. We worked till noon Friday, I paid my guys for the whole day, I get there about 1:00 with cash, and I don't see the trailer on the property. I walk in and she tells me someone saw it after I left and offered her $1,000. This business owner sure doesn't know what a good business transaction is. She felt handing me back my check made it ok. That trailer was sold. As soon as she received my money that sign should have come off that trailer. I paid her full asking price. If she was asking $1,000 I would have given her $1,000. The only reason the other person offered more than asking price was because it had already been sold. If that person had been there first they would have paid her $800 same as me. Some people are so corrupt and they don't even realize it.
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07-22-2020, 08:31 AM | #3 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
Ouch, that's a terrible business dealing, especially when you're in contact via phone and text, and especially a member. I've been in your shoes many a time, People just ain't right anymore
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07-22-2020, 08:58 AM | #4 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
57NAPCO, sorry to hear that and it is unfortunate but just because they are a member with likely thousands of posts, doesn't make them honest or trustworthy.
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07-22-2020, 09:10 AM | #5 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
Just from reading the top post I would bet 500 I know who the member is
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07-22-2020, 09:36 AM | #6 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
Guaranteed he was offered more $$$ and sold it from under you. I would not want to deal with that type of person.
Sorry to see this happen. But I do not think he represents most on these forums...
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07-22-2020, 09:44 AM | #7 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
How many days between your agreement and his cancellation?
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07-22-2020, 09:54 AM | #8 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
A Man's only as good as his word.
A verbal confirmation, a text confirmation, or a hand-shake is solid in my book. Unfortunately, I've been bitten by these type of azz hats too. Simply said...they have no credibility, nor character. Pat |
07-22-2020, 10:10 AM | #9 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
It can be hard to operate with 100% integrity. It sure isn't the easiest option - and easy is where we are headed in life. This outcome isn't shocking to me, even with this fella being a board member.
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07-22-2020, 10:15 AM | #10 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
This just sucks. I just sold a truck to a fellow member. Due to covid, it took an extra couple months for him to pick it up. I had his deposit and never considered selling to someone else. In my eyes it was his truck. I just don't understand people that don't live up to their word......
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07-22-2020, 10:21 AM | #11 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
That is one of the reasons why I shelved this hobby as my free time fun thing. Folks don't have integrity anymore or misrepresenting (driving a distance to look at something that was described as "minimal rust") or thinking there vehicle is gold plated under the paint.
Its between me and the fish these days. I wouldn't give two seconds of thought after that, with 11.5K of your money floating around out there, I would put his member name and as described over in the bad deal section. Should help some one else out from dealing with this guy.
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07-22-2020, 10:43 AM | #12 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
While it is unfortunate at least he didnt buy it and later find issues that should have been fixed or even discussed by the seller. Its just not very ethical IMHO
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07-22-2020, 11:57 AM | #14 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
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07-22-2020, 12:46 PM | #15 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
Should have followed up and checked payment has been received l
Many sellers get lead down the path a few more days a few more weeks I had that with selling a truck 2 different buyers dragged it out never bought the truck i ended up selling it to someone else a year later I would not feel comfortable paying for a truck in full and leave it there for months on end I have had a truck i sold take 4 months to be picked up Since 05 working out a deal on a 67 rs ss camaro i have been leary on purchase vehicales Seller tried dragging it out saying his buddy had the front clip weeks go buy he offers me clear title to the car no payment i decline something fishy he admits he paid some buddy of his to steal a front clip i flew there to buy the car wasted a month in that city |
07-22-2020, 12:47 PM | #16 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
With the sellers obvious lack of integrity your lucky he didn't take your money and sell it to someone else. You wouldn't have know for months and by then it would have been hard to get your money back. Your probably in different states, it would have been a night mare. Consider yourself lucky your free of this guy.
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07-22-2020, 02:48 PM | #17 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
I wonder if seller has a story?
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07-22-2020, 04:43 PM | #18 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
I'm not justifying what he did was ok, because it was wrong. But from a sellers side, until cash in hand you never really know how it's going to play out. Case in point, I "sold" my 67 Camaro back in March and still getting the run around with the buyer. He left me a small deposit, but I've been waiting months for him to come pay in full and get the car. I'm just about ready to put it up for sale again.
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07-22-2020, 04:46 PM | #19 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
Big difference between small deposit, you, and paid in full via personal check, OP
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07-22-2020, 04:54 PM | #20 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
I know, but from my understanding he did not receive the cheque yet. If he had the cheque why would he sell it again? Just trying to say that from the sellers world there are bad apples out there and a bad experience or two can ruin it for the rest of others. I took someones's word and I'm still waiting.
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07-22-2020, 05:02 PM | #21 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
Cash is king. Pay in cash and take vehicle away right then and there. Otherwise you are at risk of this type of thing happening. If a seller does not have a clear title, walk away.
If I sell a vehicle, it is always based on first person with full cash gets it. I will not take a deposit to hold and will not hold for any reason. Show me the cash baby! |
07-22-2020, 05:29 PM | #22 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
I disagree. This discussion is about how things "should be" not how things "are." This highlights the crux of the discussion... yes, cash is king if we're talking who showed up to kick the tires first. But we're not talking about that. An agreement was apparently made in this case - and the only way for the deal to not complete in reality at that point is for someone to break their word by either not paying or not delivering.
Yes, it's uncomfortable for a seller to wait for a check when someone shows up with cash in the meantime - but if you knew you'd sell if cash showed up, then the agreement shouldn't have been made in the first place. |
07-22-2020, 05:34 PM | #23 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
I agree it should be that you can trust others with an oral agreement or handshake. But this thread proves you cannot, as such, I only deal with cash in hand on first come first serve basis.
I have been known to tell someone that I think the vehicle is sold and if the person does not show up the next day I will call them to let them know they can buy it. For instance if someone agreed to my price and is traveling a long distance then I do not want the buyer to make the long trip for nothing. But, it would be a matter of a day or two only. |
07-22-2020, 05:46 PM | #24 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
This is becoming an all too common thing,i think this should be taken the the bad deals forum,a deal is a deal.I for one don`t want to have to deal with people like this.
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07-22-2020, 05:58 PM | #25 |
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Re: So I bought a 68 K20 from a member here...
Dog eat dog world, filled with way too many mutts.
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