Build that 71 402 already

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Thanks for above. I have a spreadsheet of hardware, but it's not complete and some not even accurate. Whats accurate is a kit developed for building a truck from the ground up. If interested i sell copies on the cheap.

Concerning the pointed tip screws mentioned, most are body bolts, more specifically flange tapered bolts with spin washers. They're usually 5/16 course thread, and 3/4 to 7/8 long measured from the bottom of the washers. The shorter 5/16 at the radiator (marked ELH for instance, i think 5/8 long, notes not handy) are for the upper radiator brackets, and the battery box for the 3 holes next to the radiator. My kit says exactly.

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The old metalized tape had flaked off the panels, so today I tried my hand applying new stuff. I've only done the RH panel so far, I always screw up, I mean start on the truck's RH side for some reason.

I'm replacing the original door latches with NOS ones for the project, and I found out my original latches are perfectly legit &^(^^ new weatherstrip still hasn't broken in, still have to slam the (*)^) doors in the cold.

GM built us some nice stuff, almost hard to believe the panels are 54 years now. Looks new to me, same all the original vinyl short maybe the old seat covers.

I used 3/8", if you put it on straight no or limited cuts. Made a spool for a 3rd hand.

[zicc1835]

very nice panels
I put a pair of those in my 72 Cheyenne(pictured below) just because I liked them better than the originals ...if I could find a pair I would put them in my 69 repops are $$$

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Originally Posted by zicc1835

very nice panels
I put a pair of those in my 72 Cheyenne(pictured below) just because I liked them better than the originals ...if I could find a pair I would put them in my 69 repops are $$$

Nice. I like the vinyl panels better than the 72 too. Appears Pony Parts sells a set that looks close, runs about $500 a pair. Not bad perhaps, seems a nice set of OEM might run twice that, not sure.

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I mentioned I always start (screw up on the RH side. I became aware of that early on the build side; disassembly was the same. Weird, but then, so am I

I also mentioned I used 3/8" on the first panel. Well, in the exterior light I saw where the lower frame's top was missed, doesn't fly, looks bad. I plan to fix that Monday. Declaring I was lucky on the top frame, center was by eye only.

So I pulled out the 1/2" for the LH door. I still used 3/8" on the frame sides, works great. Sure more cuts with the 1/2". Happy with the results. I see I need to cut some of the lower frame's bottom yet. While it's not seen, best to do it anyway.

FWW, I made a spool out of a box, paper towel holder and magazines. Wrapped everything with clear packing tape so I could clean them for the occasion, because the spool was placed on the frame, as needed. I found the spool necessary for a 3rd hand, slow and steady. Better hands than mine may not need one.

That spool wont work when I repair the RH panel, which is already hung up, not taking it off again. So I made another spool out of a handy PVC pipe, heavy foam rubber to maintain the height, bucket and pillows for an anchor☺

FWW, I started up the middle, used two credit cards tapped together for the center, then a single one for the center's sides - pressing everything of course. Pressed the top on, followed by the sides with a credit card, and thumb nail. About 4" at a time to avoid bubbles. Worked really well.......... Ideally, it would be nice to start on the top edge for the upper and lower frames, but I don't think I can do that with success, ()^, I'm old and too much coffee.

Almost forgot. Removing the old stuff from the RH panel was so easy. A pencil eraser did a lot of it. OMG the LH side was a bear, not a pinch left would flake off. I may have spent four hours with primarily a tiny brass brush and 600 grit sand paper.

Anyway, here's the LH panel. The stuff looks white in pictures somehow, but it's "chrome" like OEM. All said, I'm new to such crafts, but the tape isn't bad to work with.

[zicc1835]

Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402

I mentioned I always start (screw up on the RH side. I became aware of that early on the build side; disassembly was the same. Weird, but then, so am I

I also mentioned I used 3/8" on the first panel. Well, in the exterior light I saw where the lower frame's top was missed, doesn't fly, looks bad. I plan to fix that Monday. Declaring I was lucky on the top frame, center was by eye only.

So I pulled out the 1/2" for the LH door. I still used 3/8" on the frame sides, works great. Sure more cuts with the 1/2". Happy with the results. I see I need to cut some of the lower frame's bottom yet. While it's not seen, best to do it anyway.

FWW, I made a spool out of a box, paper towel holder and magazines. Wrapped everything with clear packing tape so I could clean them for the occasion, because the spool was placed on the frame, as needed. I found the spool necessary for a 3rd hand, slow and steady. Better hands than mine may not need one.

That spool wont work when I repair the RH panel, which is already hung up, not taking it off again. So I made another spool out of a handy PVC pipe, heavy foam rubber to maintain the height, bucket and pillows for an anchor☺

FWW, I started up the middle, used two credit cards tapped together for the center, then a single one for the center's sides - pressing everything of course. Pressed the top on, followed by the sides with a credit card, and thumb nail. About 4" at a time to avoid bubbles. Worked really well.......... Ideally, it would be nice to start on the top edge for the upper and lower frames, but I don't think I can do that with success, ()^, I'm old and too much coffee.

Almost forgot. Removing the old stuff from the RH panel was so easy. A pencil eraser did a lot of it. OMG the LH side was a bear, not a pinch left would flake off. I may have spent four hours with primarily a tiny brass brush and 600 grit sand paper.

Anyway, here's the LH panel. The stuff looks white in pictures somehow, but it's "chrome" like OEM. All said, I'm new to such crafts, but the tape isn't bad to work with.

nice work.... I know about old... and caffeine

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Completely ran out of stuff to replace/improve on this truck. One of the horns was killed when the core was blasted (Why?), followed by a beautiful finish. So I had both restored by The Horn Works. Installed those today, wow they sound sweet. With that, new door latches, and restored mylar tape for the door panels, there's nothing left. I installed the front license plate to declare it truly finished. What a difference the plate makes, it just looks unfinished to me without a vintage plate - Nothing fancy, same plate I had when I bought the truck in 89, State reproduction......An inexpensive license plate pad protects the chrome.

No pics this time, it's a license plate so.....

[68bowtie]

Nothing to do on a BRAND NEW pickup!!

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Once a year I shine my 71 Deluxe from the bottom up. I hit the undercarriage a few weeks ago, I just use water and window cleaner at 20-1 or so, for the most part. I'm taking the truck to its first car show, it's local. I guess 500 cars this year, the quality has been real impressive.

Today I hit the engine bay, and thought about the 72 Super I owned during the restoration, and how remarkable it was for parts, and great reference despite by the site of it, it was nice wheels on a run down truck. This is really a tribute to the 72 Super since sold, though the pic is of today's labor.

The 72 Super while tired and run down, I loved and miss it, because despite all the rust, mostly failed components, and parts in a real bad way, it was a blast to drive, and dependable as I needed it. Ironically, the DMV license plate had the number 400, matching the badges on that 72 Super, and my 71 Deluxe too. Destiny destiny, no mistaking that for me. Young Frankenstein.

In 1993, we R&R'd the engine in the 71 Deluxe, it had to be rebuilt. I boxed much what was taken off, such as the A/C compressor and lots of clips, not to be seen again until the restoration maybe 22 years later. While the 71 was primarily original for restoration, much had been lost, so I needed some OEM parts.

Somehow that 72 Super was giving despite its state. Much of the Super was intact, and that was part of the problem, you know, like a remaining 2" x 6" piece of dash pad. In some way I feel it only let me down once, which was a need for a nice OEM RH inner fender.

Anyway, sorry to the guy I sold the truck to a couple years ago, but still a very cool truck. Today I thought to take note what the donor gave me, much of this is hard to come by.

>Vac. Advance Hardline - didn't know the 71 Deluxe even had one. I didn't know much☺ Surprising, because the Super no longer had the OEM intake, carb and distributor.

>Nice, mint AC blower hose connect. Got paint on the old one, paint's unkind to rubber.

>My battery box was toasted badly by above all, a top post battery. Who knew the rusted Super with a side post battery would have a great one.

>Dryer bracket screws.

>2-3 OEM ground straps. They were the only OEM straps on that Super, and exactly what I was missing, shined up to brand new.

>While I managed to save a lot of the AC compressor bracket hardware, about 5-7 bolts were missing, and oh look, the 72 Super, and has the AC hardline clips I was missing too. Actually one clip was an improved GM variance of the former, and matched better too.

>Oh no, my cool restored standard alternator clip won't work with this Delco 10SI. Don't see what I like on-line, let me check the 72 Super.....Perfect and simple restoration late in the game, it was on a regular alternator too, hmm.

>Bummer, my power steering pump I plan to have rebuilt has a dent in it, let me check the 72 Super. It got pleasantly weird after awhile.

>Cool clip at the parking brake, thanks Super, didn't know I needed one.

>Oh no! lost a Neutral Safety etc. switch screw, let me check the Super. Replacement screws simply aren't the same threads. OEM a pinch smaller, IMO, replacements are therefore permanent. OEM > new anyway, less say ARP bolts in places.

>Check out these cool undercarriage clips the 72 Super no longer needs, perhaps I'll restore them > original 1971 clips lower evaporator box, by a lot. I may have stole another 1-2 clips for here or there, don't remember.

>Darn! the OEM vacuum actuator in the engine compartment doesn't test, no way it works in the Super. Shined up like new.

>Missing 6-8 HVAC screws, and a glove box screw, let me check the Super.

>Dang it, while it works, I didn't know a plastic rail in my ash tray bracket is broke, let me check the Super☺

>Last need was perhaps the best of them. The original owner installed a cheap cigarette lighter assembly, and it didn't work anyway. Surely the Super with that run-down interior and failed components doesn't have what I need.....Wow, mint and works too! fo' reals?☺ I sold the truck perhaps 2-4 months later.

Guess I should post of pic. of the 72 Super too.

Place holder for carb. tuning: https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...74#post9403374

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I dove in a bit for TCS anti-dieseling/Idle Stop. Funny thing was my "Idle Stop" I pulled was the mysterious "anti-dieseling" unit I "was missing" all along☺ I believe this one is technically a Combination Emission Control assembly, because it was tied into the Transmission Control Start (TCS). Thanks to other board member's research, TCS was installed into 70-75 light duty trucks. Strikes me the same would be installed into passenger vehicles, what a travesty.

Kind of wish I installed an Idle-Stop/Anti-diesel unit, one free of the TCS BS. Far as I know TCS free involves a single pink wire in the block for an engine harness. My engine shuts off well w/o one, though I did experience a pinch one time. However, a dollar says the engines are less likely to smoke on start with one, just guessing.

A/C cabs had a anti-dieseling relay mounted by the lower dash near the lighter, I think beginning in 1971, not to say some 1970 cabs didn't. It's in an A/C harness or added to it, and has nothing to do with the anti/stop what called solenoid at the carb. I think this guy does a nice job describing an anti-dieseling relay......

"the anti-dieseling relay energizes the A/C compressor for a few seconds when the ignition key is turned to the off position with the intent being the added drag will prevent dieseling. The blocking relay prevents the blower motor from turning on during this cycle.” ......I didn't reinstall one, figuring if the A/C is off well before ignition you're probably good......Should do that anyhow.

Some cool images that caught my attention. I threw the idea at my guide, someday I'd like to add a working knowledge of carb. tune and choke operation for a complete update. Pleasant surprise to see Original Parts Group buy a copy of my kit, on Ebay of all places, that's a first. I've never heard anyone review it, what the heck (JK), if it's bad I'll do it over again like a snowball's chance in hell, perfectly improbable, when pigs fly, a cold day in July without a prayer or ghost in chance.

Who likes irony?

My first vehicle was a 1971 Mazda RX2. Yeah, I flipped it after three months, thing was fast, real fast. Lucky I was just fish-tailing down a dirt road.

Three months later I flipped my step-dad's 1971 F250 he was letting me use. It was a BA BUILT 428 that smoked a lot of big block passenger cars, the 455 I was racing lost his *()&& resulting in my second 180 in three months. It was that or 6 people die. You don't want to do that to a Cowboy's truck man, especially raised rough by a 1930s Harley guy. Boxers and street fighters, like his BA brother who built that 428 engine. I finally learned a lesson, and bought the truck too. Those boys were rough, and not that big, maybe 200. My step-dad's dad was struck over the head in a ditch with a shovel, and when came to climbed out of the ditch killing the DA with a single punch. His brother was challenged all the time for old-school street fights, because he had the reputation but wasn't that big. Big mistake.

Back to "71". My C10 is a 1971, and the assembly guide I wrote for it finished at 71 pages. Wasn't on purpose, and doesn't ramble on like I do☺

[zicc1835]

Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402

I dove in a bit for TCS anti-dieseling/Idle Stop. Funny thing was my "Idle Stop" I pulled was the mysterious "anti-dieseling" unit I "was missing" all along☺ I believe this one is technically a Combination Emission Control assembly, because it was tied into the Transmission Control Start (TCS). Thanks to other board member's research, TCS was installed into 70-75 light duty trucks. Strikes me the same would be installed into passenger vehicles, what a travesty.

Kind of wish I installed an Idle-Stop/Anti-diesel unit, one free of the TCS BS. Far as I know TCS free involves a single pink wire in the block for an engine harness. My engine shuts off well w/o one, though I did experience a pinch one time. However, a dollar says the engines are less likely to smoke on start with one.

A/C cabs had a anti-dieseling relay mounted by the lower dash near the lighter, I think beginning in 1971, not to say some 1970 cabs didn't. It's in an A/C harness or added to it, and has nothing to do with the anti/stop what called solenoid at the carb. I think this guy does a nice job describing an anti-dieseling relay......

the anti-dieseling relay energizes the A/C compressor for a few seconds when the ignition key is turned to the off position with the intent being the added drag will prevent dieseling. The blocking relay prevents the blower motor from turning on during this cycle.” ......I didn't reinstall one, figuring if the A/C is off well before ignition you're probably good, which you should do anyway in one opinion.

Some cool images that caught my attention. I threw the idea at my guide, someday I'd like to add a working knowledge of carb. tune and choke operation for a complete update. Pleasant surprise to see Original Parts Group buy a copy of my kit, on Ebay of all places, that's a first. I've never heard anyone review it, what the heck (JK), if it's bad I'll do it over again like a snowball's chance in hell, perfectly improbable, when pigs fly, a cold day in July without a prayer or ghost in chance.

Who likes irony?

My first vehicle was a 1971 Mazda RX2. Yeah, I flipped it after three months, thing was fast, real fast. Lucky I was just fish-tailing down a dirt road.

Three months later I flipped my step-dad's 1971 F250 he was letting me use. It was a BA BUILT 428 that smoked a lot of big block passenger cars, the guy I was racing lost his *()&&. You don't want to do that to a Cowboy's truck man, especially raised rough by a 1930s Harley guy, boxers and street fighters, like his BA brother who built that 428 engine. I finally learned a lesson, and bought the truck too. Those boys were rough man, and not that big His dad was struck over the head in a ditch with a shovel. When he came to he climbed out and killed the DA with a single punch. My former step-dad's brother was challenged all the time old-school street fights, because he had the reputation, but wasn't that big. Big mistake. Back to 1971.

My C10 is a 1971, and the assembly guide I wrote finished at 71 pages. Wasn't on purpose, and doesn't ramble on like I do☺

interesting .....

[Getter-Done]

Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402

Who likes irony?

My first vehicle was a 1971 Mazda RX2. Yeah, I flipped it after three months, thing was fast, real fast. Lucky I was just fish-tailing down a dirt road.

Three months later I flipped my step-dad's 1971 F250 he was letting me use. It was a BA BUILT 428 that smoked a lot of big block passenger cars, the guy I was racing lost his *()&&.

What a story thanks for sharing.

This part of story is similar to my experiences in different apexes.

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Originally Posted by Getter-Done

What a story thanks for sharing.

This part of story is similar to my experiences in different apexes.

Life can be pretty wild when you're paying attention. Man, I've seen some weird stuff, and the irony sometimes rings destiny or something. Oh no, it's the Matrix Kidding.