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thisolechevy · 09-04-2004, 11:40 AM

wow!!! that is amazing that you lived through that, and thanks for sharing about why they are not safe.

corn · 09-04-2004, 09:55 PM

My 69 has a chrysler cordoba tank in it. I didnt install it,but I was told thats what it was...corn

Joe67 · 09-04-2004, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by junkyardjohn

JOHN FABRIS-- IN 1977 I WAS HIT BROADSIDE AT AN INTERSECTION BY A DRUNK DRIVER (I WAS DOING 55 OR 60) CAUSING ME TO ROLL END OVER END IN MY 72 3/4 TON FORD. AFTER ROLLING ABOUT 80 YARDS, I STOPPED WITH THE TRUCK UPSIDE DOWN WITH MY HEAD PINNED TO THE GROUND. ...

Amazing story John!! Glad you survived that wreck.

big blue 72 · 09-04-2004, 11:36 PM

Glad you made it JY.

ed455 · 09-05-2004, 12:10 AM

here's what I did for a gas tank. One thing I alway noted about the old trucks was that the cabs always smell like gasoline.

Joe67 · 09-09-2004, 03:08 PM

MackL - any contact information for this Kenny's Truck place? Google comes up empty.

Dallas71 - Are you referring to www.thetruckshop.com? I sent them an email today I was just checking to see if it was the same place you were referring to.

Thanks.

jorgensensc · 09-09-2004, 08:08 PM

The Truck shop in Cali is where I got the tank and all for the writeup in the FAQ. They do not have the best customer service (I found out later) but they are cheap if that is what you are looking for. The setup for 166 was complete at the time, including sender, etc. If you want a really great setup, go with FCG, he makes a great product. If you want to do a blazer style tank you have a few options available to you. I always try and support local vendors, but am not a hater of the truck shop. I just know they have poor customer service, but I've never had a problem with their product quality (My oinion only though, others have). With a 6 inch drop I would probably lean towards FCG. I don't fel the blazer tank hangs to low, (about 3-4 inches lower than back bumper), but I wouldn't risk it on a 6 inch drop personally. Hope it helps a little.
Shawn

MACKL · 09-09-2004, 10:07 PM

Here is the info for Kenny's trucks. I found them at a swap meet and they had the best value. They also have great customer service. As good as Kenny's is, I would buy my next one from the fuel cell guy or weld a larger filler neck on the one from kenny's.
http://KENNYSTRUCKS.COM
918-827-2600
Good luck...Kelly

Joe67 · 09-10-2004, 07:07 AM

Thanks guys, I'll check it out. I'm not necessarily looking for the cheapest, but the best value

TEXAS 68 · 09-10-2004, 12:00 PM

What does one from FCG cost,(ballpark)?

Joe67 · 09-10-2004, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEXAS 68

What does one from FCG cost,(ballpark)?

I think it runs about $375 + shipping with sending unit. Here is a thread

68w/sbc406 · 09-10-2004, 07:57 PM

375 is what he estamated me too

ChevLoRay · 09-11-2004, 07:06 AM

We don't want the tank in the cab because they can make the cab smell like gasoline. That would be because the fuel lines are old, and/or the fuel fill hose is old/leaking. When the trucks were new, they didn't smell like gas.

As for relocating them to the rear of the chassis, it frees up space behind the seat, and/or allows for different seating.

Simply relocating the tank to the rear of the chassis doesn't negate the possibility of damaging the tank in a rear-end collision. Fuel Cells, as I understand them from a racing concept, are supposed to retain the fuel, even if damaged. A tank, if damaged, will leak. Whether it leaks, or not, will be determined by the construction of the tank, versus the force of the impact.

In my first vehicle, I carried a one-gallon gas can. It was placed in the back left corner of the trunk, directly beneath the tail light. I had a '54 Ford 2-dr. I got rear-ended by a then-new '65 Impala. Ford was nose-down, in braking to keep from hitting a car that had stopped just over the rise of a hill. When I hit my brakes, the Impala driver hit his. His front end was nose-down. When he got hit by a fourth vehicle, it drove the front of the Impala into the rear of my Ford, and knocked me into a '64 Chevelle. The rear of my Ford was crushed to conform to the front of the Impala.

That can of gas?? It, too, was crushed to conform to the damage in the trunk of the Ford. It didn't leak. I have never kept a can of gas in a vehicle, since then.

Having once owned a '71 Pinto, which Ford recalled to install a thick plastic shield between the rear axle and the gas tank, I have to consider the location of the gas tank as very important. I think I'm just gonna replace the rubber and leave my tank in the cab.

Russell · 09-11-2004, 12:58 PM

Personally I'd rather have an explosion at the back of my truck rather than underneith my butt...

**gregfull** · 09-11-2004, 01:14 PM

I knew there was some reason I didn't like those DAMN Fords! But then again that Ford may have saved your life.

Joe67 · 09-11-2004, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregfull

I knew there was some reason I didn't like those DAMN Fords! But then again that Ford may have saved your life.

GregFull - Your Suburban project looks bad as Hell

502 Ram Jet

**guyryan100** · 09-11-2004, 05:24 PM

If you go with a blazer tank (I am but haven't put it in yet) I found the best price, with shipping, to be from American Classics. I checked all the board vendor's web sites and found this to be the cheapest. The Truck Shop wanted near $280 shipped for theirs (I had read that their kit was $166 but I talked to the guy on the phone and he informed me otherwise).

junkyardjohn · 09-11-2004, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guyryan100

If you go with a blazer tank (I am but haven't put it in yet) I found the best price, with shipping, to be from American Classics. I checked all the board vendor's web sites and found this to be the cheapest. The Truck Shop wanted near $280 shipped for theirs (I had read that their kit was $166 but I talked to the guy on the phone and he informed me otherwise).

DO YOU HAVE AMERICAN CLASSICS PHO. # or web address??

JOHN

Joe67 · 09-15-2004, 02:49 PM

http://www.americanclassic.com/

Chevyguy111786 · 09-15-2004, 03:59 PM

whoever it was that said the smaller necks are a pain to fill up. My 78 has small necks...every time you try to fill up it just clicks off. i found out that if you put just the tip of the nozzle in...so that it's just inside the little flap/baffle deal...you can fill up without it clickin off...now sometimes, if the pumps goin fast enough, a little bit of gas will back flow out. but other than that, works much better than taking 30 min to fill up the tank. just a little trick i learned

MACKL · 09-15-2004, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevyguy111786

whoever it was that said the smaller necks are a pain to fill up.

That would be me. I doesn't mater what you do, it pukes gas out. The only correction I have found is to locate the gas station with the slowest pumps and and lock the nozzle on the lowest notch. Then it only pukes a couple of times. I am worried it will ruin my new paint. Your '78 does not have a fill hole that is only 1 1/4" OD. That is about 1 1/16 ID. That is a little over an inch. Your 78 is closer to 2 inches. Big difference.

Chevyguy111786 · 09-15-2004, 09:01 PM

oh ok, didn't know, just knew it was small and clicked off on fast pumps. i misread your post about it puking, i thought you were talking about them clicking off all the time.

Joe67 · 09-16-2004, 12:03 PM

Thanks for all the input guys.

I just placed an order for a tank from Mark aka FuelCellGuy (Payment is on the way Mark)

Game on....

nate68 · 09-16-2004, 11:11 PM

i dont hafta worry about that because i have no fill neck

Mudder · 09-17-2004, 03:43 AM

I havent read this whole thread but am wondering if you guys are venting the fill tubes. The air in the tank has to come out somewhere as the gas is replacing it.

09-04-2004, 11:40 AM	#26
thisolechevy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Gainesville, Fl Posts: 382	wow!!! that is amazing that you lived through that, and thanks for sharing about why they are not safe. __________________ Man I need another 67-72!!!

09-04-2004, 09:55 PM	#27
corn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: here Posts: 5,789	My 69 has a chrysler cordoba tank in it. I didnt install it,but I was told thats what it was...corn Last edited by corn; 09-16-2007 at 06:29 PM.

09-05-2004, 12:10 AM	#30
ed455 Captain Ed Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Port Charlotte, FL Posts: 1,241	here's what I did for a gas tank. One thing I alway noted about the old trucks was that the cabs always smell like gasoline. Attached Images

09-09-2004, 03:08 PM	#31
Joe67 67 is sold Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Troy, Michigan Posts: 6,733	MackL - any contact information for this Kenny's Truck place? Google comes up empty. Dallas71 - Are you referring to www.thetruckshop.com? I sent them an email today I was just checking to see if it was the same place you were referring to. Thanks. __________________ Joe - Formerly 67c10step ------------------------------- 1967 Chevy Stepside - ECE 4/6, fuelcell, 5lug - SOLD gr8lakes - My ebay auctions Click here to order forum apparel :: Click here to become a subscribing member

09-09-2004, 08:08 PM	#32
jorgensensc Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cypress, Tx Posts: 4,005	The Truck shop in Cali is where I got the tank and all for the writeup in the FAQ. They do not have the best customer service (I found out later) but they are cheap if that is what you are looking for. The setup for 166 was complete at the time, including sender, etc. If you want a really great setup, go with FCG, he makes a great product. If you want to do a blazer style tank you have a few options available to you. I always try and support local vendors, but am not a hater of the truck shop. I just know they have poor customer service, but I've never had a problem with their product quality (My oinion only though, others have). With a 6 inch drop I would probably lean towards FCG. I don't fel the blazer tank hangs to low, (about 3-4 inches lower than back bumper), but I wouldn't risk it on a 6 inch drop personally. Hope it helps a little. Shawn __________________ 1972 C20 Suburban- Big Blue Betty '56 Chevy Bel Air Sedan- Frame up Restoration -What would you attempt to achieve if you knew you could not fail?- -I Refuse To Tiptoe Through Life, Only To Arrive Safely At Death's Door- R.I.P. EAST SIDE LOW LIFE

09-04-2004, 11:36 PM	#29
big blue 72 Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: hamilton,ohio,usa Posts: 1,499	Glad you made it JY.

09-09-2004, 10:07 PM	#33
MACKL Almost done! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Woodstock GA Posts: 193	Here is the info for Kenny's trucks. I found them at a swap meet and they had the best value. They also have great customer service. As good as Kenny's is, I would buy my next one from the fuel cell guy or weld a larger filler neck on the one from kenny's. http://KENNYSTRUCKS.COM 918-827-2600 Good luck...Kelly __________________ The 1970 SWB Project Removed 6cyl manual trans, manual everything V8-350 Auto/PS/PDB Blazer Fuel Tank Behind the Marker Light Fuel Fill

09-10-2004, 07:07 AM	#34
Joe67 67 is sold Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Troy, Michigan Posts: 6,733	Thanks guys, I'll check it out. I'm not necessarily looking for the cheapest, but the best value __________________ Joe - Formerly 67c10step ------------------------------- 1967 Chevy Stepside - ECE 4/6, fuelcell, 5lug - SOLD gr8lakes - My ebay auctions Click here to order forum apparel :: Click here to become a subscribing member

09-10-2004, 12:00 PM	#35
TEXAS 68 Vortec in the works Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Spring,Texas Posts: 735	What does one from FCG cost,(ballpark)? __________________ 68? It's all figured out untill you get it apart. Is it Sunday yet??? 68 Project 68 SWB frame off/98 Vortec with stock FI/power everything. 95 ECLB 2500 with 346,000 on the clock(the original HD) 99 Lesabre-wifes ride 08 Crew Cab LTZ-All Mine 89 SWB 5/7 drop-Son's first ride.

09-10-2004, 07:57 PM	#37
68w/sbc406 Got Light Emitting Diode? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Newberg, OR Posts: 2,485	375 is what he estamated me too __________________ 1968 1/2 ton 2wd lwb 6 lug disc and bags up front. Next c notch and rear bags '02 Chevy Silverado LT ext cab short bed 2WD 5/7 drop on 22's(the family car) 1993 Cherokee work ride/weekend wheeler

09-11-2004, 07:06 AM	#38
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	We don't want the tank in the cab because they can make the cab smell like gasoline. That would be because the fuel lines are old, and/or the fuel fill hose is old/leaking. When the trucks were new, they didn't smell like gas. As for relocating them to the rear of the chassis, it frees up space behind the seat, and/or allows for different seating. Simply relocating the tank to the rear of the chassis doesn't negate the possibility of damaging the tank in a rear-end collision. Fuel Cells, as I understand them from a racing concept, are supposed to retain the fuel, even if damaged. A tank, if damaged, will leak. Whether it leaks, or not, will be determined by the construction of the tank, versus the force of the impact. In my first vehicle, I carried a one-gallon gas can. It was placed in the back left corner of the trunk, directly beneath the tail light. I had a '54 Ford 2-dr. I got rear-ended by a then-new '65 Impala. Ford was nose-down, in braking to keep from hitting a car that had stopped just over the rise of a hill. When I hit my brakes, the Impala driver hit his. His front end was nose-down. When he got hit by a fourth vehicle, it drove the front of the Impala into the rear of my Ford, and knocked me into a '64 Chevelle. The rear of my Ford was crushed to conform to the front of the Impala. That can of gas?? It, too, was crushed to conform to the damage in the trunk of the Ford. It didn't leak. I have never kept a can of gas in a vehicle, since then. Having once owned a '71 Pinto, which Ford recalled to install a thick plastic shield between the rear axle and the gas tank, I have to consider the location of the gas tank as very important. I think I'm just gonna replace the rubber and leave my tank in the cab. __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

09-11-2004, 12:58 PM	#39
Russell Professional Grade Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta Posts: 7,915	Personally I'd rather have an explosion at the back of my truck rather than underneith my butt... __________________ 1995 Chevrolet 2 Door Tahoe (6.6L LBZ Duramax / ZF6 / NP241 with 1 ton solid axle swap)

09-11-2004, 01:14 PM	#40
gregfull Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Richmond, Texas Posts: 598	I knew there was some reason I didn't like those DAMN Fords! But then again that Ford may have saved your life. __________________ My Suburban Project 72 Suburban 68 SWB 57 Belair 55 Cameo 06 Chevy 1/2 ton crew 09 Suburban

09-11-2004, 05:24 PM	#42
guyryan100 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 483	If you go with a blazer tank (I am but haven't put it in yet) I found the best price, with shipping, to be from American Classics. I checked all the board vendor's web sites and found this to be the cheapest. The Truck Shop wanted near $280 shipped for theirs (I had read that their kit was $166 but I talked to the guy on the phone and he informed me otherwise).

09-15-2004, 02:49 PM	#44
Joe67 67 is sold Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Troy, Michigan Posts: 6,733	http://www.americanclassic.com/ __________________ Joe - Formerly 67c10step ------------------------------- 1967 Chevy Stepside - ECE 4/6, fuelcell, 5lug - SOLD gr8lakes - My ebay auctions Click here to order forum apparel :: Click here to become a subscribing member



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09-15-2004, 03:59 PM	#45
Chevyguy111786 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Garland, Texas Posts: 1,127	whoever it was that said the smaller necks are a pain to fill up. My 78 has small necks...every time you try to fill up it just clicks off. i found out that if you put just the tip of the nozzle in...so that it's just inside the little flap/baffle deal...you can fill up without it clickin off...now sometimes, if the pumps goin fast enough, a little bit of gas will back flow out. but other than that, works much better than taking 30 min to fill up the tank. just a little trick i learned

09-15-2004, 09:01 PM	#47
Chevyguy111786 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Garland, Texas Posts: 1,127	oh ok, didn't know, just knew it was small and clicked off on fast pumps. i misread your post about it puking, i thought you were talking about them clicking off all the time.

09-16-2004, 12:03 PM	#48
Joe67 67 is sold Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Troy, Michigan Posts: 6,733	Thanks for all the input guys. I just placed an order for a tank from Mark aka FuelCellGuy (Payment is on the way Mark) Game on.... __________________ Joe - Formerly 67c10step ------------------------------- 1967 Chevy Stepside - ECE 4/6, fuelcell, 5lug - SOLD gr8lakes - My ebay auctions Click here to order forum apparel :: Click here to become a subscribing member

09-16-2004, 11:11 PM	#49
nate68 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: ca Posts: 1,110	i dont hafta worry about that because i have no fill neck __________________ 68 short step, 406/700r4, 9" w/discs.

09-17-2004, 03:43 AM	#50
Mudder Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Central, MO Posts: 11,336	I havent read this whole thread but am wondering if you guys are venting the fill tubes. The air in the tank has to come out somewhere as the gas is replacing it.

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