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speaker Kick panel....bummer
Basically just reporting here. I am installing a modern high power stereo system in my 71' swb and figured I'd put the 6.5" round speakers in those pre-formed kick panels you can order from the various vendors. Got mine from the UPS guy about and hour ago. Went out to the garage and determined that my Infinity Kappa 6.5" round speakers are about an 1 1/2" too deep
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Crap is right... are there any speakers that will fit in those panels? They are really my only option at the moment, but I don't have any speakers yet. Just need to know if any will fit in that limited depth before I buy them.
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Greg, you can order the panels with the speaker that do fit..but that was not an option for me. I wanted a higher quality speaker.
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Eh, yeah, that's not really an option for me either. I'm a self proclaimed audiophile. Okay, more like a "high quality sound reproduction enthusiast."
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The Infinity's are a very deep heavy magneted speaker.. I also have a pair that wouldn't fit.
I put Blaupunkt 6-1/2"ers in mine.. I will again upgrade them to MBQuarts. But there are a lot of Good speakers that don't have the heavy deep magnet of Infinity.. and as long as you go with good quality speakers you'll be happy with them. |
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You could cut a hole in the kickpanel to alow the magnet to sink into the cab of the truck.Not sure what that would do for hte sound though.Mine has already been hacked,And I mean HACKED,there is quite a bit of space between the kickpanel and the exterior wall of the cab.Prolly 2-2.5 inches thick
Just a thought.
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can you run a spacer??? Sure it's going to stick the speaker out but might work. If not, custom is the way to go.
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a spacer is tough, because of the Emergency brake pedal or handle.... |
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i was thinking about that while typing..... it'll work though. I'd rather stick to some fiberglass kick panels. Can you return the speakers? |
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There is a speaker for those kickpanels by Panasonic which had a shallow depth on them. Pioneer TS-G1340R Top-mount Depth (Inches) 1 13/16 I have also heard that the later style of parking brake will need to be moved slightly to the right to clear the enclosure. Everytime I have seen these kickpanels for sale with speakers they always have the same two-way panasonics in them. Probably due to the shallow mounting depth.
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Can't use the Pansonic's...amp will blow those in a heartbeat. I'll get these Infinity's to fit. Calling a fiberglass shop in the morning. I might even make them myself.
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I was just gonna say might want to look at a fiberglass custom kick panel, place around here charges (from memory) around $60 unpainted for a basic kickpanel (each).
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directed electronics studio series 6.5 components are really nice and they have a tiny magnet that is much better quality! these speakers almost feel fake they are so light weight!
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So what is the maximum depth of speaker that you can use with those kickpanels? Can you guys measure it for me? I am considering those as well. Thanks!!
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Would this be possible?
How about using the fresh air vent holes for some speaker mounts?
Would they be too far under the dash? Just looking at them, it appears a 6 by 8 might fit in the openings. You would have to seal the vent holes from outside water and moisture. Just a thought, when I pulled my floor vents during the disassembly.
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what kind of amp do you have?
What the RMS rating for each channel? What the max power the pioneers can handle? |
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there was this:
http://207.44.196.117/vboard/showthr...6&page=1&pp=25 post back in the spring but I havnt seen anything about it since. Are there any fibreglass experts out there that could make something similar? I too dont want the Kustom Autosound speaker setup, but I'm not seeing much else out there. Can we get something (mabe a movement) going on this? ![]() ![]()
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Wouldn't run-off from the cowl vent area hit the speakers poking thru? Good test for waterproof speakers. ![]() Still an option, but I bet they'd need a backing enclosure. ![]()
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I suspect you, sir, have hit on a serious remedy to this long-existing problem. Imagine; good sound from a slim speaker that fits in those otherwise dum@ss kick panels. Anything to get good midrange sound from quality speakers set down low in front without cutting the doors or interfering with pedals/ingress/egress. ![]()
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i say HAVE SOME KICKPANELS MADE FOR THE SPEAKERS YOU WANT. Any novice fiberglass worker can make speaker molds. In fact, in almost all of the car audio magazines they sell kits for making these, it has become so popular that most of the high end mobile audio dealers have people who can make them for you.
I wouldnt sacrafice quality and go with a smaller speaker if sound is important to you. There is a direct relation to magnet size and quality. If you laid out all the best speakers you could almost put them in order of size and determine which ones are better. While this isnt true ALL the time it is pretty standard. I'm having to use 5 1/4's in my kickpanels because im running Alpines type R's and they are huge. There was NO WAY to fit the 6 1/2's in there and still use a floor dimmer switch. I would call around to a few stereo shops in your area and talk to them about forming you some custom kick panels. I'll bet you can find someone to do it for roughly what you paid for the ones that wont work. |
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Cardboard, duct tape, resin, fiberglass mat,
bondo, sandpaper, paint! Cheers
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Type-R's won't fit those kick panels? Damn. There goes my idea.
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Pm....
Hey Chevy Dude
PM cochino12 He lives in the Denver area and deals with Audio stuff. He mite have a answer for you. I did pull some pic's of what he is using, I'm not sure if yours are the same or not. I hope this helps Eric
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http://www.directed.com/audio/speakers/default.asp here is a link to the speakers I was talking about! They are similar to the dddrive alpine speakers from a few years back! I have been in the bus since 1986 and these are the same people that make the best car alarms (Viper, Phython, Avital, Clifford and more) I am a dealer for these if any one want's a quote pm me. They are not cheap but they will fit in small spaces and sound awesome!
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