Help: probably ??? beaten to death: Vent Window Rivets? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

arkracing · 04-20-2005, 04:28 PM

how do these things work.... i've never done this before?
everyone seems to think this is a PITA. but i need to replace the weatherstrip as it is all "dry-rotted"

i searched but no "true explination" of which rivets actually have to be removed and which don't and if some of them can be replaced with regular pop rivets vs. orginals anyone know which can be replaced with regual pops? other than the "pivot rivot" - i know that one is the "crush style" or whatever you want to call it

do you hammer on them till they "flare out"
i thought i saw something written by GMCPaul to cut the tool and then weld it to a C-clamp and use that to "crush" the rivets?
what size C-clamp? a small one i'm assuming (2-4") so that you can get it inbetween the window?

Thanks in advance - sorry if it has been asked a 1k times..but in my search i didn't find "how to properly use the tool" and which rivots needed to be removed....i didn't know if you have to do them all or not

stllookn · 04-20-2005, 08:55 PM

PICKMUP (Frank) has the knowledge and a kit to do this. I was discussing it with him the other day. Send him a PM...then post the procedure...since I might have to a couple myself...LOL!

badpeanut · 04-20-2005, 09:38 PM

Ttt.

arkracing · 04-21-2005, 07:39 AM

anyone?

arkracing · 04-21-2005, 04:30 PM

ttt

**john** · 04-21-2005, 05:26 PM

It looks to me the two rivets on the backside of frame can be replaced with regular pop rivets. I think it is the pivot point rivet that is special. Those rivets are easily accessed with window open and rubber out of the track. John

cableguy0 · 04-21-2005, 05:58 PM

you cannot use pop rivets anywhere on it they are too long and wouldnt let the seals seat correctly. they are a huge pain in the @ss to do. i drilled the old ones and bought the kit from gmcpauls and after doing both vent windows i would buy new ones next time. i used a vice and the tool to crush the rivets and it worked ok but still required two people and was just a dreadful job keeping everything aligned

**john** · 04-21-2005, 06:46 PM

Well it sounded good. John

arkracing · 04-21-2005, 08:51 PM

Thanks for the replies.

I think i'm going to try to cut the tool and weld it to a "C-Clamp" as GMCPaul described in one of the threads on this.

I can't afford new vent windows and i'm going to be forced to sell the truck as it is so i don't want to spend $$$$ for new ones when i can replace the rubber even if it is a PITA

04-20-2005, 04:28 PM	#1
arkracing Weekend Warrior Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 1,787	Help: probably ??? beaten to death: Vent Window Rivets? how do these things work.... i've never done this before? everyone seems to think this is a PITA. but i need to replace the weatherstrip as it is all "dry-rotted" i searched but no "true explination" of which rivets actually have to be removed and which don't and if some of them can be replaced with regular pop rivets vs. orginals anyone know which can be replaced with regual pops? other than the "pivot rivot" - i know that one is the "crush style" or whatever you want to call it do you hammer on them till they "flare out" i thought i saw something written by GMCPaul to cut the tool and then weld it to a C-clamp and use that to "crush" the rivets? what size C-clamp? a small one i'm assuming (2-4") so that you can get it inbetween the window? Thanks in advance - sorry if it has been asked a 1k times..but in my search i didn't find "how to properly use the tool" and which rivots needed to be removed....i didn't know if you have to do them all or not __________________ -'07 GMC Sierra K2500HD -'66 C10 Suburban -'68/'71 K20 Service Bed Project -'69 Chevy C30 Mason Dump -'33Ford P/U 396ChevyPowered

04-20-2005, 08:55 PM	#2
stllookn Saving 1 truck at a time! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 6,465	PICKMUP (Frank) has the knowledge and a kit to do this. I was discussing it with him the other day. Send him a PM...then post the procedure...since I might have to a couple myself...LOL! __________________ '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 400/TH400 '68 C20 Longhorn 50th Anniversary 468/TH400w/buckets '72 C20 Halfhorn (Longhorn w/o cab and front clip) '69 Flxible Cruiser (look up ugly in the dictionary)

04-21-2005, 07:39 AM	#4
arkracing Weekend Warrior Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 1,787	anyone? __________________ -'07 GMC Sierra K2500HD -'66 C10 Suburban -'68/'71 K20 Service Bed Project -'69 Chevy C30 Mason Dump -'33Ford P/U 396ChevyPowered

04-21-2005, 04:30 PM	#5
arkracing Weekend Warrior Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 1,787	ttt __________________ -'07 GMC Sierra K2500HD -'66 C10 Suburban -'68/'71 K20 Service Bed Project -'69 Chevy C30 Mason Dump -'33Ford P/U 396ChevyPowered

04-21-2005, 05:26 PM	#6
john member #16 Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Yuba City Ca. Posts: 3,618	It looks to me the two rivets on the backside of frame can be replaced with regular pop rivets. I think it is the pivot point rivet that is special. Those rivets are easily accessed with window open and rubber out of the track. John Attached Images __________________ john http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showgroups.php board vendors http://www.flickr.com/photos/1745471...7602865984234/

04-20-2005, 09:38 PM	#3
badpeanut Not a bad nut after all.. Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: ND Posts: 1,759	Ttt.

04-21-2005, 05:58 PM	#7
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,948	you cannot use pop rivets anywhere on it they are too long and wouldnt let the seals seat correctly. they are a huge pain in the @ss to do. i drilled the old ones and bought the kit from gmcpauls and after doing both vent windows i would buy new ones next time. i used a vice and the tool to crush the rivets and it worked ok but still required two people and was just a dreadful job keeping everything aligned __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

04-21-2005, 06:46 PM	#8
john member #16 Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Yuba City Ca. Posts: 3,618	Well it sounded good. John __________________ john http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showgroups.php board vendors http://www.flickr.com/photos/1745471...7602865984234/

04-21-2005, 08:51 PM	#9
arkracing Weekend Warrior Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 1,787	Thanks for the replies. I think i'm going to try to cut the tool and weld it to a "C-Clamp" as GMCPaul described in one of the threads on this. I can't afford new vent windows and i'm going to be forced to sell the truck as it is so i don't want to spend $$$$ for new ones when i can replace the rubber even if it is a PITA __________________ -'07 GMC Sierra K2500HD -'66 C10 Suburban -'68/'71 K20 Service Bed Project -'69 Chevy C30 Mason Dump -'33Ford P/U 396ChevyPowered

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