headlight help

[pissonNOS]

I just noticed tonight my headlight is burnt out and before i go buy one I was wondering what are my options I have heard people talking about some sort of a conversion? my friend was saying i can get the new kind that look blueish? anybody have any insight?

[MISTERSHOTGUN]

Yeah. You can get the cheap ones at any autoparts store for just a few bucks. They also make cat eye lights that work for this truck as well that are white lights with a blue ring like the BMWs. The conversion that he is talking about is probably the Euro Crystal Clear headlight that you can get from LMC trucks that is a halogen bulb you can get in Blue. It costs 30.00 for each light and the blue bulbs are 9 bucks each. as you can see it adds up but my friend is using them and they are pretty bright lights.
Also there are HELLA Vision plus lights 60/65 watters very bright for about 50 bucks each. Then there is a lucas tripod headlights between 140 and 200 bucks each. You can get all of these from lmc but not the cats eye lights. Personally I would go cheaper like the originals but the euro styl lights are still not that expensive and they are very bright lights.

[mrein3]

Or just make your headlight switch a relay controller.
Mount the relays on the core support. (2 relays @ $5/each)
Use 8 or 10 gauge wire from the "on" side of the relay to each light ($5-$10)
Use the normal headlights. ($8.99 at Wal*Mart)

Your factory system is putting 10-11 volts to each headlight because it is running the current through 20+ feet of 16 gauge wire. With a relay set-up you can put 12-14 volts to each light.

You won't believe the difference until you see it for yourself.

[pissonNOS]

Originally Posted by MISTERSHOTGUN

Yeah. You can get the cheap ones at any autoparts store for just a few bucks. They also make cat eye lights that work for this truck as well that are white lights with a blue ring like the BMWs. The conversion that he is talking about is probably the Euro Crystal Clear headlight that you can get from LMC trucks that is a halogen bulb you can get in Blue. It costs 30.00 for each light and the blue bulbs are 9 bucks each. as you can see it adds up but my friend is using them and they are pretty bright lights.
Also there are HELLA Vision plus lights 60/65 watters very bright for about 50 bucks each. Then there is a lucas tripod headlights between 140 and 200 bucks each. You can get all of these from lmc but not the cats eye lights. Personally I would go cheaper like the originals but the euro styl lights are still not that expensive and they are very bright lights.

can i buy the ones LMC sells at a parts store or not?

[MISTERSHOTGUN]

I wish I knew. I'm sure they would at least carry the euro style ones or they could order them.. Sorry.. I usually order everything from the net

[MISTERSHOTGUN]

You can get a 9 dollar headlight from the parts store for something to fix the problem then look into ordering something as well I know they carry the cheap ones. They allways have the headlights for our trucks because they fit so many cars and trucks around those years.

[68w/sbc406]

i have HELLA H4 conversions with PIAA 60/55 star white bulbs and relays. i see great. its worth it. your headlights wont put out that romantic glow anymore

[Fred T]

If you want to convert to the H4, go to www.****************.com . He has a DOT approved conversion for $35. I have stuck with the round bulbs, buying them in halogens.

[4x4Poet]

Here's a good thread on installing relays to power headlights with full battery voltage.

Any auto/4x4 accessory shop can probably order in Hella, Cebie, or other quality headlights. Among affordable headlights, I prefer Hella H4 European lens headlights. Not DOT legal, but a great lens, IMO.

I would avoid LMC both for the prices and the fact that better stuff is available with knowledgeable customer service, like thru Rick's Pickup Parts. The LMC tele-sales people don't know anything that their computers don't tell them.

[NPilot1975]

Has anyone seen the H4 (I think) headlights with the smaller blue or amber bulb inside the housing? I saw them a few weeks ago in a mag and can't find it again. I would like to use the secondary bulb as a turn signal, but need to find out who makes them so I can get a better look at them.

[Palf70Step]

This came up before, but I don't think they make the conversion/helas for the GMC, quad bulb setup. They may now, but that is what I remember from the last time this came up. You may be stuck with old fashion style headlamps.

[4x4Poet]

My local auto accessory store was able to find 4-headlight Hella H4 systems in both HellaVision and the European lens. The store would have to order them from Hella's USA point in Florida, IIRC. Does not include any relay system, of course.

[NPilot1975]

Painless Performance has a relay kit. Below is the Painless site. Below that is the Painless kit through Summit, it is $77.95 and is designed to do 2 headlights.

http://www.painlessperformance.com/w...lightrelay.htm

http://store.summitracing.com/defaul....asp&x=30&y=11

[Church]

I have the 80/100 watt superwhite h4 conversion with the plug and play Painless Wiring Kit in my 67 and love it. There are many choices out there for the H4 conversion. KC makes a halogen bulb that is 55 watt LO and 100 watt HI beam so you would be legal in LO beam for those who dont like the super white look. I higly recommend the wiring kit so you get the voltage you need at the lights.

[68w/sbc406]

Originally Posted by NPilot1975

Has anyone seen the H4 (I think) headlights with the smaller blue or amber bulb inside the housing? I saw them a few weeks ago in a mag and can't find it again. I would like to use the secondary bulb as a turn signal, but need to find out who makes them so I can get a better look at them.

i think those are the euro lights that 4X4 poet is talking about. they have a second light (my friends always called them city lights) that you could make a turn signal, but i dont think it would work if your head lights are on

Originally Posted by Palf70Step

This came up before, but I don't think they make the conversion/helas for the GMC, quad bulb setup. They may now, but that is what I remember from the last time this came up. You may be stuck with old fashion style headlamps.

they have the smaller size for the GMCs as well. but you would need to get a set of H4s and a set of H1s

[pissonNOS]

i was at canadian tire last nite and they had these lights made by halogen they were called superwhite? i believe but the parts guy would let me open a box to see if theyd fit and there book only went as far back as 1980 for fitment

[Church]

Originally Posted by pissonNOS

i was at canadian tire last nite and they had these lights made by halogen they were called superwhite? i believe but the parts guy would let me open a box to see if theyd fit and there book only went as far back as 1980 for fitment

What type bulb are you looking for?

[dallas71]

hey y'all check this link out, it has some cool schematics for the relay setup...


http://www.6066gmctrucks.org/HeadLights.htm

[pissonNOS]

Originally Posted by Church

What type bulb are you looking for?

i was just checking out my options i am wanting something more whiter and brighter for sure tho

[Church]

Originally Posted by pissonNOS

i was just checking out my options i am wanting something more whiter and brighter for sure tho

Then you need to check out the Toucan Industies 80/100 watt H4 superwhite bulbs. They tend to last longer than most. Best quality bulbs I have seen for the price. I have these in my 67 and I am using their 80 watt 9006 and 100 watt 9005 in the Grand Cherokee.
http://www.carolinaclassictrucks.com...dlamp/xe-H4HXC

[72MARIO]

Siliviana (sp) has a bulb called the silverstar. Looks like a H4 $ 30 cdn each from cnd tire. I have them in my 84 and dad just got a pair for his 73. Way clearer than halogen.

I like em.

[Church]

Silerstars are nice but way overpriced. The toucans are only $19.95 for the pair and put out a lot more light. They are just as white as the Silverstars too.

[pissonNOS]

Originally Posted by Church

Silerstars are nice but way overpriced. The toucans are only $19.95 for the pair and put out a lot more light. They are just as white as the Silverstars too.

cnverted into canadian that is about 30 bucks so.

[4x4Poet]

Originally Posted by 68w/sbc406

i have HELLA H4 conversions with PIAA 60/55 star white bulbs and relays....

Originally Posted by 68w/sbc406

i think those are the euro lights that 4X4 poet is talking about. they have a second light (my friends always called them city lights) that you could make a turn signal, but i dont think it would work if your head lights are on...

No sir, I'm not talking about European spec headlights with the little parking light within the lens. I've lived in Europe and know exactly what that is. I'm speaking of Hella's H4 lens assys that have both H4 bulbs (if single 7") and a European cut lens that has "H4" molded in the center of each lens. These lenses allow long beams with a side feature that lets light shine up on the right of the vehicle to illuminate signs. They are also a flat lens, not round or bulb-like. They are not DOT legal, but with the H4 bulb cut-off, nobody has bothered me about them. As an added benefit, the flat lens really updates any truck I've put them on. Adds styling.

Of course, Hella also offers the DOT legal HellaVision headlight assys with H4 bulbs. I think the HellaVision lenses are inferior to the H4 lenses.