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Old 02-21-2006, 04:42 PM   #1
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anyone used these??

http://www.offroaddesign.com/catalog/shacklekit.htm
My friend has a wrangler, and seems pretty happy with a similar setup....but thats a wrangler....
So, If I am looking for a 4" lift, is this a good compromise? (was thinking I might want 4 might want 6, this would allow me to put on add-a-leafs if i need a little more, without needing all new springs.)

any opinions or advice would be appreciated.
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Old 02-23-2006, 12:44 PM   #2
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Re: anyone used these??

There was a thread not too long ago about this here it is http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=183398. I made my opinion known there as did others & there are differences in what people think for sure .
I guess it just depends on what you're looking to do with your rig as to how you set it up. I will reitterate... I love my homemade setup & it was a lot cheaper than ORD's. It's not that hard to adjust it either to get 2" or 3" 4" of lift out of them... whatever you need to get your truck sitting how you want it.
I still haven't got pics of mine on here but I am closer now, ma & pa got a new digital camera so soon...I promise.

Oh, & good luck.
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Old 02-24-2006, 01:54 PM   #3
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Re: anyone used these??

I'll agree on the flip. If you look at other trucks built, they use the same setup as what you end up with when you flip the shackle on a chevy. (I think Dodges are set up that way, hafta look again) With stock or Heavy duty replacement shackles I'd still say it would be ok to do everything you want to do with it.

Shackle flips are great because you don't need new rear springs. The flipping of the shackle nets the lift you want with the added bonus of a flatter spring. heavliy arched springs (lift springs) don't flex as well as flatter springs. Thats why a lot are moving from stock 52" springs (and putting them up front) and moving to 56" (stock 3/4 ton) or 57" (f150 stock) or 64" springs from a 88-98 CK truck. This is with a shackle flip of course. The stock 52" spring with a shackle flip makes for one nice riding, flexy rear suspension that can still handle loads as it was set up for.

Ord's are nice for flip kits (pricy), Sky has another kit (slightly less pricy) and DIY4x has the newest setup. The DIY setup drops the stock shackle in place of a heavy duty shackle made from thick flat stock (2 pc). All are beefy but the DIY kit is the beefy-est of them all.

Still you can do your own like Bowtier did. OR Go to the boneyard and get a front spring hanger (rear spring) from a 2wd truck (73-87), remove the stock hanger and install the front hanger in the rear. Requires a little fab work to do.

I've got a flip kit from a now defunct shop out of AZ. I love how it rides, gave me the lift to match 4" springs up front and flexes nice.
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Old 02-24-2006, 02:22 PM   #4
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Re: anyone used these??

Minor correction...
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Still you can do your own like Bowtier did.
..I can't take credit Board member 6772king fabed 'em up similar to the DIY set up. Did a helluva job to.

That's it, I gotta the pics done & on here this weekend. This is the second time it's come up & I'm dyin' to show it off before I break somthin'.
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Old 02-24-2006, 07:47 PM   #5
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Re: anyone used these??

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Minor correction.....I can't take credit Board member 6772king fabed 'em up similar to the DIY set up. Did a helluva job to.
Having not seen yours (hint hint ) I wouldn't know what they looked like!

Here's my echobit flip kit....Simple really and it uses the stock rear hanger (meaning no drilling rivits and taking the tank out)




Would not be too hard to replicate...
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Old 02-25-2006, 12:19 AM   #6
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Re: anyone used these??

If i ever do another lifted rig I will do what I had on my 1 ton blazer.

used the front shckles of the rear springs from a 74-75 blazer. Gave me perfect pinion angle and 4" of lift combined with my add-a-leaf.A total of 6" suspension

I have jumped, flexed, towed and daily drove this blazer for a long time before I sold it.
I mud raced it for 5-6 years with this setup. Not one issue with it..
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Old 02-25-2006, 04:54 PM   #7
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Re: anyone used these??

just using the front shackles of the rear springs on the front gave you 4" of lift? The shackle replaced the front or rear shackle for the front springs?
How did you raise the rear?
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Old 02-25-2006, 05:33 PM   #8
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Re: anyone used these??

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just using the front shackles of the rear springs on the front gave you 4" of lift? The shackle replaced the front or rear shackle for the front springs?
How did you raise the rear?
No..no..no.. the picture you see is the rear spring perch of my rear springs
I then added an add-a leaf to the rear springs to make the rear suspension 6 inches. My rear springs were stock, when added to this shackle gave me a total of 4" the added the extra leaf to get 6-61/2 inch

for the front I used what I had ..4in spring lift with an add-a-leaf plus an extended rear front spring shackle made by Hill offroad.

I ended up around 6 1/2 inch suspension. plus i added a 2in body lift(didn't like alot of gap between the frame)

Had an excellant ride and handle and stance that you can see in the pic
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Old 02-25-2006, 05:36 PM   #9
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Re: anyone used these??

I was able to ride fine and still look not to awkward with 35's.. but i drove on 36's and was still able to play with 38's
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Old 02-26-2006, 01:19 AM   #10
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Re: anyone used these??

I think to clarify, the shackle is the same from stock, the rear spring hanger is what was changed. In his case, using the rear spring FRONT hanger in the rear location is what he used to create the flip.
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yup...
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Old 02-27-2006, 12:32 PM   #12
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OK I'll give it a try

Not a pro at pics yet but I think I got it. Here's how I had it flexed, I'll put the shackles on next post.





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Old 02-27-2006, 12:36 PM   #13
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This shackle is with the spring in tension...



This shackle is with the spring in compression....



This is me havin' fun.....





So, there ya go, that's mine. Easier than I thought

Edit: Sorry they're so big & about the fender rot...hey, it's winter
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Old 02-27-2006, 10:33 PM   #14
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Whats size tires^?
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Old 02-28-2006, 07:43 AM   #15
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