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Old 10-11-2006, 08:44 AM   #1
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body panel gaps

In the daunting task of fitting and aligning new floor pans and panels I have noticed that I have gaps in the metal where I cut and fit the new panels, large enough that I cannot weld a bead there. The gaps arent much more than 1/16 of an inch wide, what should one do to fill the gap, caulking ??
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:42 AM   #2
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Re: body panel gaps

You can close up a 1/16th of an inch with a welder if you take your time and work back and forth and side to side.
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Old 10-11-2006, 10:16 AM   #3
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What if not??
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Old 10-11-2006, 11:41 AM   #4
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Do you have spare sheet metal you can use to bridge the gap and weld in on both sides??
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Old 10-11-2006, 12:36 PM   #5
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duct tape
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Old 10-11-2006, 12:42 PM   #6
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Briging the gap with sheetmetal can work. It is wicked hard to be precise with cutting and fitting.
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Old 10-11-2006, 01:16 PM   #7
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Re: body panel gaps

That can be somewhat cured by cutting the panel slightly large, test fit, grind down areas that are too big, test fit, grind, test fit, grind. It's a pain in the ass but it worked for me. My very first welding job was on this a few months ago:
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Old 10-11-2006, 03:20 PM   #8
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Damn that looks sweet.
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Old 10-11-2006, 03:21 PM   #9
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Re: body panel gaps

After the weld/grinding, what did you use? Metal prep, rust encapsulator, body filler, then prime and paint?
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Old 10-11-2006, 03:46 PM   #10
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Basically, yes. I love rust encapsulator. Don't use it on a hot day though, that crap dries FAST! Thanks for the props. There was a long time between pic one and pic two Unfortunately (as you can see) I had a rust free fender but it was beat to crap by the previous owner/owners. I beat it out the best I could. In case your interested here's one from underneath. I haven't installed the clamps or vent hose yet (I'm currently trying to find where I put it )
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Old 10-11-2006, 04:39 PM   #11
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Re: body panel gaps

hey that looks great, you took the spare tire mount out and placed a tank back there, not a bad idea. I used some rust encapsulator from Car Quest, I want to get some from Eastwood, but cant wait too long, I guess it's all the same. I have some spots to sandblast, lots of work. Looks good tho.
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Old 10-11-2006, 04:40 PM   #12
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BTW is that a piece of tailpipe used for a fuel filler?
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Old 10-11-2006, 04:49 PM   #13
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No, not the main piece that you see. It is stock '96 Silverado fuel filler neck. The diamater on the silverado filler neck was much larger than the blazer tank filler neck, so I did use some muffler pipe from a parts store to make up the difference in the filler neck size using 2 different sized rubber fuel hose. Hope that makes sense??? There is a lot of detail and pics in my "build thread" in my signature.
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Old 10-11-2006, 05:30 PM   #14
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Re: body panel gaps

Sometimes I have placed a piece of copper behind the gap, sorta supports the molten metal so it doesn't drop out. Worked for me!!
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Old 10-11-2006, 07:26 PM   #15
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Re: body panel gaps

Turn your wire speed up and amperage down. Not too much. Practise on scap first. With short bursts you can build up enough metal to weld the two together. Do small sections at a time. You want to hear it "POP" as opposed to "sizzle".
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Old 10-11-2006, 07:32 PM   #16
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Re: body panel gaps

Now if you are using a wire feed welder than a 1/16" gap is just about right. When using the wire feed you want a gap in your metal the same thickness as the metal that you are welding. Practice, Practice and then more .....

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Old 10-11-2006, 07:36 PM   #17
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Re: body panel gaps

Use a carbon block or a piece of brass on the back side and you'll be able to fill the gap. We use them at work when welding odd angles that or band saw won't cut.
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