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**DREW67** · 09-11-2007, 05:59 PM

Question what do you use to seal between the step fender and bedside, I know that they have that felt rap stuff but originally they just used sometime like caulking from the factory. Can I use some a small bead of clear silicone will that work?

Thanks,

cowman · 09-11-2007, 06:13 PM

I've got some rust there along the edge of the fender and the guy that's going to paint it[whenever I get that far] wants to use stuff he calls Metal To Metal, says it's the best. A little pricey but well worth it.

ChevLoRay · 09-11-2007, 07:53 PM

I preach on this stuff, but you should be careful about the silicone you use on any metal surfaces. Make sure the stuff you use is for automotive applications. If not, you will find that it causes rust where it comes into contact with the metal. I can say this because we used RTV extensively where I worked, and a bunch of it was used to paste ISO instructions to steel columns of the buildings. It WILL cause rust.

jorgensensc · 09-11-2007, 07:54 PM

I have seen black door edge guard used and it looked very nice.
Shawn

Brock · 09-11-2007, 08:49 PM

I saw in one catalog they sold "Fender Welt". It was a leathery/plastic gasket (for lack of a better word) that went between the fender and the bed side. I can't remember which catalog though.

67cst · 09-11-2007, 09:15 PM

here is a shot of the rubber piping im using....i got it at a volkswagen restoration shop

'68 longbed · 09-11-2007, 09:21 PM

I've also been told many times never to use silicone. I like the piping idea. one day when I have a million bucks I would like to weld and get rid of all the seams

tcb-1 · 09-11-2007, 09:43 PM

Andrew,
I didn't know you coming over to work on my new (your old) truck. That's so nice of you!!!!

Sorry to hijack the thread, back to the subject.......

**DREW67** · 09-11-2007, 10:15 PM

Doug man you can always bring it back. I always get sad when I see them drive off and it looks good to. I'm glad your enjoying it. I will need some help moving the bed over to the frame so you can come help me buddy...

**DREW67** · 09-11-2007, 10:20 PM

My thing is guys I don't like the look of the felt around the fenders on some trucks. If your truck is black it would look ok but your truck is red I think it would stand out. Any more suggestions?????????

krue · 09-12-2007, 12:35 PM

The fenders that came with my truck (they were removed when the truck was new to install tool boxes) had a putty like substance that looks a lot the stuff the electricians in the Navy used to call Monkey $h!t to seal wires going into pecker heads. A gray putty that is water proof and doesn't harden or set up.

67ChevyRedneck · 09-12-2007, 12:55 PM

I don't think it stands out, blends in with the truck. Most people never notice it.

krue · 09-12-2007, 07:33 PM

I think it stands out personally, nothing against you or your truck, it's a very nice truck, but when I put my bed back together I'm either gonna find some of the putty I mentioned above or something similar.

Mudder · 09-13-2007, 04:12 AM

Krue, did you think mine stood out? Honestly it won't hurt my feelings. I always sorta thought that it wasn't that noticable. It is a pain to install the fenders using that stuff.

**special-K** · 09-13-2007, 06:37 AM

The welt doesn`t do anything to help seal.It`s not a bad idea,but won`t seal the gap.There should be no gap anywat.Just a seam.The factory used seam sealer.Silicone is also bad because paint won`t stick to anywhere it`s been,including where you wipe off excess.Jim Carter sells the welting.I`d still use a sealer on both sides.The best thing to do is seal it so nothing can get between there in the first place.There`s a urethane tripolimer caulk for window glazing called Geocel I use in my siding business.It stays pliable and won`t crack,paintable,and works to bond real well.I`ve used it on my utility beds at the seams with great results.You have to finger it as soon as you lay it on,skins right up.Sealing from underneath is the big issue here for rust prevention.

Sequoyah · 09-13-2007, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krue

The fenders that came with my truck (they were removed when the truck was new to install tool boxes) had a putty like substance that looks a lot the stuff the electricians in the Navy used to call Monkey $h!t to seal wires going into pecker heads. A gray putty that is water proof and doesn't harden or set up.

...takes notes on thread. Put Monkey Sh*t on list, hmm....might need to pick up a dozen pecker heads. *thinks to self* Is there anything else?

...workin' on half a cup of coffee...goin' back for more.

67ChevyRedneck · 09-13-2007, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krue

I think it stands out personally, nothing against you or your truck, it's a very nice truck, but when I put my bed back together I'm either gonna find some of the putty I mentioned above or something similar.

Nah, none taken

The fender welt was easy to install. You have to slit it and cut out triangle sections in the curves and I used a spray on adhesive to put it on the fender, then just bolt the fender to the bed.

I put it on the truck back in 97 and pulled the old stuff off last year when I redid the truck. There was surprisingly no rust where the welt was. I actually thought there would be....

Brock · 09-13-2007, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krue

The fenders that came with my truck (they were removed when the truck was new to install tool boxes) had a putty like substance that looks a lot the stuff the electricians in the Navy used to call Monkey $h!t to seal wires going into pecker heads. A gray putty that is water proof and doesn't harden or set up.

My nephew is in the Navy and works on radio's and communications stuff...I'll have to ask him about the "Monkey $h!t and pecker heads". Exactly what are those navy guys doing?!?

On mine...I don't have the truck painted yet so I taped off where the outline of the fender is, painted it with that rubberized undercoating stuff, painted the Flange on the fender where it touches the truck with the same stuff then bolted it on. I figure two rubberized coated surfaces should seal pretty well and if its painted rust shouldn't be that much of a problem.

krue · 09-13-2007, 01:29 PM

Randy I noticed the welting on your truck, it didn't look bad, but I think it could look better. I've used the welting before and didn't like the way it looked on my truck, so now I pay attention to other stepsides to see what's being used, which is probably why it stands out to me.

BTW a pecker head is the box where wires enter and leave a motor or generator.

09-11-2007, 05:59 PM	#1
DREW67 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, Mo Posts: 1,030	Stepside Bed Question what do you use to seal between the step fender and bedside, I know that they have that felt rap stuff but originally they just used sometime like caulking from the factory. Can I use some a small bead of clear silicone will that work? Thanks, __________________ DREW67 Last edited by DREW67; 09-11-2007 at 06:00 PM.

09-11-2007, 06:13 PM	#2
cowman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Buckhead Ga. Posts: 7	Re: Stepside Bed I've got some rust there along the edge of the fender and the guy that's going to paint it[whenever I get that far] wants to use stuff he calls Metal To Metal, says it's the best. A little pricey but well worth it.

09-11-2007, 07:53 PM	#3
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Re: Stepside Bed I preach on this stuff, but you should be careful about the silicone you use on any metal surfaces. Make sure the stuff you use is for automotive applications. If not, you will find that it causes rust where it comes into contact with the metal. I can say this because we used RTV extensively where I worked, and a bunch of it was used to paste ISO instructions to steel columns of the buildings. It WILL cause rust. __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

09-11-2007, 07:54 PM	#4
jorgensensc Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cypress, Tx Posts: 4,005	Re: Stepside Bed I have seen black door edge guard used and it looked very nice. Shawn __________________ 1972 C20 Suburban- Big Blue Betty '56 Chevy Bel Air Sedan- Frame up Restoration -What would you attempt to achieve if you knew you could not fail?- -I Refuse To Tiptoe Through Life, Only To Arrive Safely At Death's Door- R.I.P. EAST SIDE LOW LIFE

09-11-2007, 08:49 PM	#5
Brock upgrading to an older model Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento, KY Posts: 346	Re: Stepside Bed I saw in one catalog they sold "Fender Welt". It was a leathery/plastic gasket (for lack of a better word) that went between the fender and the bed side. I can't remember which catalog though. __________________ 68 stepside, short-box, multi-colored (for now)

09-11-2007, 09:15 PM	#6
67cst i love summertime Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kelowna BC Posts: 4,303	Re: Stepside Bed here is a shot of the rubber piping im using....i got it at a volkswagen restoration shop Attached Images __________________ 1967 shortbox stepside Chevy, 365 hp 327, th400. GLOVE BOX LIGHTS FORSALE, click link for info http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=273724

09-11-2007, 09:21 PM	#7
'68 longbed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: mississippi Posts: 181	Re: Stepside Bed I've also been told many times never to use silicone. I like the piping idea. one day when I have a million bucks I would like to weld and get rid of all the seams __________________ "spiiiider pig, spiiiiider pig, does whatever spiiiider pig does. "

09-11-2007, 09:43 PM	#8
tcb-1 Nothing to see here..... Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 4,625	Re: Stepside Bed Andrew, I didn't know you coming over to work on my new (your old) truck. That's so nice of you!!!! Sorry to hijack the thread, back to the subject.......

09-11-2007, 10:15 PM	#9
DREW67 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, Mo Posts: 1,030	Re: Stepside Bed Doug man you can always bring it back. I always get sad when I see them drive off and it looks good to. I'm glad your enjoying it. I will need some help moving the bed over to the frame so you can come help me buddy... __________________ DREW67

09-11-2007, 10:20 PM	#10
DREW67 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, Mo Posts: 1,030	Re: Stepside Bed My thing is guys I don't like the look of the felt around the fenders on some trucks. If your truck is black it would look ok but your truck is red I think it would stand out. Any more suggestions????????? __________________ DREW67

09-12-2007, 12:35 PM	#11
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Re: Stepside Bed The fenders that came with my truck (they were removed when the truck was new to install tool boxes) had a putty like substance that looks a lot the stuff the electricians in the Navy used to call Monkey $h!t to seal wires going into pecker heads. A gray putty that is water proof and doesn't harden or set up. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck" Last edited by krue; 09-12-2007 at 12:36 PM.

09-12-2007, 12:55 PM	#12
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: Stepside Bed I don't think it stands out, blends in with the truck. Most people never notice it. Attached Images __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

09-12-2007, 07:33 PM	#13
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Re: Stepside Bed I think it stands out personally, nothing against you or your truck, it's a very nice truck, but when I put my bed back together I'm either gonna find some of the putty I mentioned above or something similar. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck" Last edited by krue; 09-12-2007 at 07:34 PM.

09-13-2007, 04:12 AM	#14
Mudder Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Central, MO Posts: 11,336	Re: Stepside Bed Krue, did you think mine stood out? Honestly it won't hurt my feelings. I always sorta thought that it wasn't that noticable. It is a pain to install the fenders using that stuff.

09-13-2007, 06:37 AM	#15
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,861	Re: Stepside Bed The welt doesn`t do anything to help seal.It`s not a bad idea,but won`t seal the gap.There should be no gap anywat.Just a seam.The factory used seam sealer.Silicone is also bad because paint won`t stick to anywhere it`s been,including where you wipe off excess.Jim Carter sells the welting.I`d still use a sealer on both sides.The best thing to do is seal it so nothing can get between there in the first place.There`s a urethane tripolimer caulk for window glazing called Geocel I use in my siding business.It stays pliable and won`t crack,paintable,and works to bond real well.I`ve used it on my utility beds at the seams with great results.You have to finger it as soon as you lay it on,skins right up.Sealing from underneath is the big issue here for rust prevention. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~



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09-13-2007, 01:29 PM	#19
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Re: Stepside Bed Randy I noticed the welting on your truck, it didn't look bad, but I think it could look better. I've used the welting before and didn't like the way it looked on my truck, so now I pay attention to other stepsides to see what's being used, which is probably why it stands out to me. BTW a pecker head is the box where wires enter and leave a motor or generator. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

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