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68gmsee · 09-18-2007, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChevLoRay

Patina isn't rust.

Hey ChevLoRay, basically I hear what you're saying but I disagree that Patina isn't rust. Especially as defined by the dictionary.

American Heritage dictionary college edition.

Patina: A thin layer of corrosion, usually brown or green, that appears on copper or copper alloys, such as bronze, as a result of natural or artificial oxidation. 2. The sheen produced by age and use on any antique surface.

Granted it doesn't say rust. But rust is "oxidation."

67ChevyRedneck · 09-18-2007, 02:48 PM

Yeah, and here's a good example of one of our trucks. This pic has been posted on here a lot already...

Longhorn Man · 09-18-2007, 02:57 PM

if we are gonna complain about the mis use of the word in it's self, what about how everyone tosses around the term restored on here.
old words get new meanings all the time.

**Classic Bowties** · 09-18-2007, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68gmsee

American Heritage dictionary college edition.

Patina: A thin layer of corrosion, usually brown or green, that appears on copper or copper alloys, such as bronze, as a result of natural or artificial oxidation. 2. The sheen produced by age and use on any antique surface.

Fairly simple to understand as quoted above out of the American Heritage dictionary : 2. The sheen produced by age and use on ANY antique surface.

Painter D · 09-18-2007, 07:15 PM

hey 67 chevy redneck where is that truck from? it looks very similar to mine ,i have a 69 though. and by the wayi like patina,the last two trucks i had were both show quality vehicles one of them was in several mags. but i found when i drove them around i was always real nervous about someone hitting me or going somewhere and someone keying them. with a patina style vehicle you dont really have to worry that much.

ChevLoRay · 09-18-2007, 09:25 PM

I didn't refer to a dictionary, so thanks for the info. Hot Rod magazine did the feature on producing a patina on a vehicle that couldn't possible have any rust (i.e. a fiberglass body). In their article, the intent was to introduce the look of a finish that had been compounded and waxed over the years, when it was actually a new paint job.

If a patina can include surface rust, I got patina. But in keeping with HRM's process, I got that covered, too. Only thing is, my patina is legit. Do any of those definitions include multi-colored primers in the big picture of a patina? I got that, too.

sleepyboy · 09-18-2007, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67_C-30

I agree, we shouldn't butcher the english language!

I don't care who you are dat is phat YO

weasel29gm · 09-18-2007, 10:41 PM

I agree on '' restore '' Andy. To me it means return to orginal or stock condtion. I like the term ''build or built''. Broader range, restore isn't 18's and air bags or shaved and crated. I've corrected several on mine, not restorin' just tryin' to build her back!! LOL!!

eedgell · 09-18-2007, 10:53 PM

I agree that patina can be the tarnished surface of an antique, but I like the "Rustina" line [thank you 68gmsee] to describe a rusted truck. That works well with me.

Longhorn Man · 09-18-2007, 11:37 PM

a beater is a beater, a turd is a turd.
Mine is both

EAST SIDE LOW LIFE · 09-19-2007, 10:29 AM

Rat Rodding is building a rod from what you have, not the limit on your credit card. The culture is definitely anti bling. The years that are reconized are from 1930 to 1964. The term patina funny enough is an outsider term as this term is not used much by Rat Rodders. Yes I agree with you guys that Rat Rodding is not for me but each to his own. I like Corn have seen my fare share of red, bagged trucks (don't get me wrong here as I like them) but lets just say I wouldn't make a big effort to go out of my way to a car show to see them. I've seen some neat rat rods and I've seen junk, it might surprise you that some rat rodders own other rides like muscle cars, Vettes etc. as well as their rat. Sometimes the shiny full of bling thing gets dull and it's nice to have a change or share someone elses experience to round it all out. Just my HO & .02 worth.

esll.

ChevLoRay · 09-19-2007, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

a beater is a beater, a turd is a turd.
Mine is both

Heard a guy I worked with repeat a saying his dad had said...."If you chrome plate a turd, it's still a turd."

Gee, whoodathunkit?

67_C-30 · 09-19-2007, 02:04 PM

The famous line from John Carpenter's Christine:
"You can't polish a turd!"

67_C-30 · 09-19-2007, 02:08 PM

Click on #6

http://www.theofficialjohncarpenter..../chsclips.html

**Classic Bowties** · 09-19-2007, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67_C-30

Click on #6

http://www.theofficialjohncarpenter..../chsclips.html

67_C-30 that a cool linky

I love the quotes. Cb

Longhorn Man · 09-19-2007, 04:27 PM

yep, I've always said you can't polish a turd, and I've also always said a piece of sh!t painted gold, is still a piece of sh!t

eedgell · 09-20-2007, 09:38 PM

Kind of like, the white spec on top of chicken sh!t, is still chicken sh!t. I agree.

sameyrasmea72 · 09-21-2007, 01:16 AM

I can't wait to see what the patina/oxidation/original faded paint looks like on my burb when I get through rubbing it.

I think the hood has been painted , so I need to find a nice original blue hood with the black primer showing through.

You can tell by looking at the rear panel that there will be some good "PATINA" effect when I get finished.

09-18-2007, 02:48 PM	#27
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09-18-2007, 02:57 PM	#28
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: What is the deal with "patina"? if we are gonna complain about the mis use of the word in it's self, what about how everyone tosses around the term restored on here. old words get new meanings all the time.

09-18-2007, 07:15 PM	#30
Painter D Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: DFW (Forney) Posts: 1,529	Re: What is the deal with "patina"? hey 67 chevy redneck where is that truck from? it looks very similar to mine ,i have a 69 though. and by the wayi like patina,the last two trucks i had were both show quality vehicles one of them was in several mags. but i found when i drove them around i was always real nervous about someone hitting me or going somewhere and someone keying them. with a patina style vehicle you dont really have to worry that much.

09-18-2007, 09:25 PM	#31
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Re: What is the deal with "patina"? I didn't refer to a dictionary, so thanks for the info. Hot Rod magazine did the feature on producing a patina on a vehicle that couldn't possible have any rust (i.e. a fiberglass body). In their article, the intent was to introduce the look of a finish that had been compounded and waxed over the years, when it was actually a new paint job. If a patina can include surface rust, I got patina. But in keeping with HRM's process, I got that covered, too. Only thing is, my patina is legit. Do any of those definitions include multi-colored primers in the big picture of a patina? I got that, too. __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

09-18-2007, 10:41 PM	#33
weasel29gm SLOW BUT SURE,BUT CLOSER Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: eleanor wv usa Posts: 3,092	Re: What is the deal with "patina"? I agree on '' restore '' Andy. To me it means return to orginal or stock condtion. I like the term ''build or built''. Broader range, restore isn't 18's and air bags or shaved and crated. I've corrected several on mine, not restorin' just tryin' to build her back!! LOL!! __________________ 69 C-10, OWNED 35YRS... 350 over 30, 350 Turbo, 3:73 Posi P/S, P/B Black with red and black int. ''LOVE THESE OLD ''TRUCKS.......

09-18-2007, 10:53 PM	#34
eedgell It's the air up here Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Western Colorado Posts: 710	Re: What is the deal with "patina"? I agree that patina can be the tarnished surface of an antique, but I like the "Rustina" line [thank you 68gmsee] to describe a rusted truck. That works well with me. __________________ 1971 cheyenne k10 4 speed np 205 454 BB factory a/c Never drink down stream of the herd! Eric

09-18-2007, 11:37 PM	#35
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: What is the deal with "patina"? a beater is a beater, a turd is a turd. Mine is both

09-19-2007, 10:29 AM	#36
EAST SIDE LOW LIFE Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: VANCOUVER ISLAND, B.C., Canada Posts: 1,602	Re: What is the deal with "patina"? Rat Rodding is building a rod from what you have, not the limit on your credit card. The culture is definitely anti bling. The years that are reconized are from 1930 to 1964. The term patina funny enough is an outsider term as this term is not used much by Rat Rodders. Yes I agree with you guys that Rat Rodding is not for me but each to his own. I like Corn have seen my fare share of red, bagged trucks (don't get me wrong here as I like them) but lets just say I wouldn't make a big effort to go out of my way to a car show to see them. I've seen some neat rat rods and I've seen junk, it might surprise you that some rat rodders own other rides like muscle cars, Vettes etc. as well as their rat. Sometimes the shiny full of bling thing gets dull and it's nice to have a change or share someone elses experience to round it all out. Just my HO & .02 worth. esll. __________________ Tomorrow is for doing today's stuff. ************************************* This truck has just the right amount of energy for me! Author: Warren Lake .... (member) Last edited by EAST SIDE LOW LIFE; 09-19-2007 at 08:27 PM.

09-19-2007, 02:04 PM	#38
67_C-30 I have a radical idea! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweet Home Alabama! Posts: 6,513	Re: What is the deal with "patina"? The famous line from John Carpenter's Christine: "You can't polish a turd!" __________________ '67 C-30 Dually Pickup 6.2 Turbo Diesel, NP435 ‘72 C-10 SWB , 350 4bbl, TH350 '69 C-10 SWB , 250 L6, 3 OTT '69 GMC C3500, dump truck, 351 V6, NP435 '84 M1009 CUCV Military Blazer 67 C-30 Turbodiesel build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=254096 My trucks http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ediafilter=all Member of the 1-Ton Club! Last edited by 67_C-30; 09-19-2007 at 02:05 PM.

09-19-2007, 02:08 PM	#39
67_C-30 I have a radical idea! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweet Home Alabama! Posts: 6,513	Re: What is the deal with "patina"? Click on #6 http://www.theofficialjohncarpenter..../chsclips.html __________________ '67 C-30 Dually Pickup 6.2 Turbo Diesel, NP435 ‘72 C-10 SWB , 350 4bbl, TH350 '69 C-10 SWB , 250 L6, 3 OTT '69 GMC C3500, dump truck, 351 V6, NP435 '84 M1009 CUCV Military Blazer 67 C-30 Turbodiesel build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=254096 My trucks http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ediafilter=all Member of the 1-Ton Club!

09-19-2007, 04:27 PM	#41
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: What is the deal with "patina"? yep, I've always said you can't polish a turd, and I've also always said a piece of sh!t painted gold, is still a piece of sh!t

09-20-2007, 09:38 PM	#42
eedgell It's the air up here Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Western Colorado Posts: 710	Re: What is the deal with "patina"? Kind of like, the white spec on top of chicken sh!t, is still chicken sh!t. I agree. __________________ 1971 cheyenne k10 4 speed np 205 454 BB factory a/c Never drink down stream of the herd! Eric

09-21-2007, 01:16 AM	#43
sameyrasmea72 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Lubbock, Texas Posts: 2,443	Re: What is the deal with "patina"? I can't wait to see what the patina/oxidation/original faded paint looks like on my burb when I get through rubbing it. I think the hood has been painted , so I need to find a nice original blue hood with the black primer showing through. You can tell by looking at the rear panel that there will be some good "PATINA" effect when I get finished. Attached Images __________________ 72 Cheyenne Super 80 Silverado Blazer 2wd Last edited by sameyrasmea72; 09-21-2007 at 01:20 AM.

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