The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-11-2007, 04:27 PM   #1
77GMCSerria
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: N/A
Posts: 32
Crazy idea

Would it be possible to bolt a Road Ranger 10 speed or Fuller transmission to a 350 or 454 gas motor? If so how was it done? What adapters would be needed?

Thanks
77GMCSerria is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2007, 04:38 PM   #2
Longhorn Man
its all about the +6 inches
 
Longhorn Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Hilliard Ohio
Posts: 2,690
Re: Crazy idea

I guess anything is possible, but why would you want to? A diesel has a very limited RPM range, with most of the medium to large ones only hittin 2500 RPM... requiring many gears to make the engine of any value on the street.
A gas engine can rev twice that without stressing it too much, so it doesn't need the gears.
Longhorn Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2007, 05:30 PM   #3
billdo
Registered User
 
billdo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: hopewell jct new york
Posts: 140
Re: Crazy idea

kind of a crazy concepts at first i was thinking you would need a lot of torque to turn it but its a c10 not a peterbuilt. but they are huge trannys. and i dont know what the benifts would be they are not 10 consecutive gears . high low you would go fatser you would glow slower then a 90 year old many taking a dump in first but i may be all wrong give it a try but i wouldnt waste my time i think what you want is an overdrive unit that would be smart.
billdo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2007, 07:54 PM   #4
john
member #16
 
john's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Yuba City Ca.
Posts: 3,618
Re: Crazy idea

Most of those roadrangers have a 2" input shaft. Some of the older trannys have a 1 1/2" shaft so you would need a custom built clutch and then the bell housing is waaay too big.
john is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2007, 08:03 PM   #5
crazy longhorn
Fabricate till you "puke"
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Ill
Posts: 9,402
Re: Crazy idea

What....you tryin to upstage the guys in the 6spd club? I agree, those parts are very big/heavy, & not really useable in a gas powered pickup. L
__________________
69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....
crazy longhorn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2007, 10:11 PM   #6
68C15
blood type; Retumbo
 
68C15's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: next to my reloading bench
Posts: 10,269
Re: Crazy idea

not to mention the chassis modifactions you would need to hold all that weight. it probably weighs more than the whole truck.
68C15 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2007, 11:10 PM   #7
Tycoon4u
Tooloose
 
Tycoon4u's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Jonesboro, IL
Posts: 280
Re: Crazy idea

You would have to have an engine driven air compressor and tanks to be able to shift the high low spliter.
__________________
A legend in my own mind!!!
website: http://www.persmedequip.com/

'68 c10 (current project)
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ht=cherry+bomb
'04 silverado (better halfs)
'07 wildcat 27rlwb(for sale) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/c...llinois&cat=17
Tycoon4u is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2007, 11:53 PM   #8
GMCMAX
Active Member
 
GMCMAX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Lower Mid-East Ca.
Posts: 326
Re: Crazy idea

The trans shop that we used to get our rebuilds from had a ten speed in a 3/4 ton shop truck with a 454. The guy told me the flywheel, clutch and bell housing came from something like a C60 with a big block, and he used a small electric compressor and tank mounted in the box of the utility body to run the shifter. The fun part was getting the driveline made up. Don't remember about mounts.......
__________________
Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig!

Gets More Chicks

My lugnuts require more torque than your honda makes!

68 GMC, 4X4 conversion w/73 k20 running gear and springs, 350 4spd, 4.10's, D44 powerlok front, 14BFF govlock rear, 33" tires, lifted 4".
GMCMAX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2007, 02:42 AM   #9
chvtrkman
Registered User
 
chvtrkman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: PA.
Posts: 178
Re: Crazy idea

I'm with the others that question the "why' of wanting to do this. I think GMCMAX is correct.......the old C-60 trucks had a 427 ( I think) with an 8 spd. (4 low/4 high?)....or was it a 5 spd tranny with a 2 spd diff.? Yeah, I think the latter is correct, but dont hold me to it. I could be wrong. My memory is trying to recall the early 80s when I drove a gas job.I don't know if you could mate a RoadRanger to a gas engine without some serious modifications, if it could be done at all.
__________________
_____________________________________________
69 C-20 292, 4 spd O/D, 4:56 rears. No a/c p/s p/b p/w......restoration project,"Operation:Stovebolt"
78 C-10 305 TH350 new (old) daily driver
02 Suburban Z71 a.k.a. the family truckster
99 Silverado 1500 Z71
chvtrkman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2007, 03:23 AM   #10
Bishops Trucks
KEEP ON TRUCKIN'
 
Bishops Trucks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Sterling, Va.
Posts: 5,730
Re: Crazy idea

Seems like to much of a hassle to make that work. I guess anything is possible but why do that.
__________________
JIM
'97 GMC Sierra K1500
'95 Chevy Silverado C1500

'71 Cheyenne Z71 / LT1 & 4-Speed SWB K/10 Father/Son Project
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l689JKXPnA
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php
"LIVIN' FREE FOREVER"
Bishops Trucks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2007, 07:29 AM   #11
retodd7711
chrome makes it go FASTER!
 
retodd7711's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cleveland Tennessee
Posts: 2,884
Re: Crazy idea

I've seen dump trucks with gas motors and a 10 speed. If that's what you're working on it's o.k. A tree trimmer in my neighborhood has that set-up in his bucket truck.
__________________
She can't cook
and she won't clean.
But she looks good in a skirt
and she brings me beer.
She can stay for now.
EDIT:: But she left me anyway,
So forget her.


1962 GMC Stepside V6 4 speed
My rolling resto thread
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=324226
My old farm truck
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post3465005
retodd7711 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2007, 07:43 AM   #12
ChevLoRay
Old Skool Club
 
ChevLoRay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas"
Posts: 10,880
Re: Crazy idea

Quote:
Originally Posted by chvtrkman View Post
I'm with the others that question the "why' of wanting to do this. I think GMCMAX is correct.......the old C-60 trucks had a 427 ( I think) with an 8 spd. (4 low/4 high?)....or was it a 5 spd tranny with a 2 spd diff.? Yeah, I think the latter is correct, but dont hold me to it. I could be wrong. My memory is trying to recall the early 80s when I drove a gas job.I don't know if you could mate a RoadRanger to a gas engine without some serious modifications, if it could be done at all.
I drove a '74 C-60 tandem axle dump that had a 427, a 5-speed main box and a 4-speed auxillary box. Single-speed rear axles. Good thing I was a lot younger person, split shifting was a bear. The auxillary box was non-syncro all the way.

Why not look at a 5-speed gear box, then put a Gear Vendors O/D on that? With the money you're talking about spending, along with the machine work needed, this would be cheaper....and not cheap.
__________________
Member Nr. 2770

'96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed.

'69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo

The older I get, the better I was.
ChevLoRay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2007, 10:04 AM   #13
special-K
Special Order

 
special-K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Mt Airy, MD
Posts: 85,851
Re: Crazy idea

You just don`t need all those split gears in a light truck.Sure,it`s cool to run through them all.But,I`m going with a GearVendors auxilary unit.It can split gears,too.My truck has a Muncie M22 4spd with 4 full gears.I`ll have more gear selection than I`ll ever need,mostly overdrive.
__________________
"BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed"

GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project)
GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling)
Tim

"Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman"

R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~
special-K is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:29 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com