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*Dylan · 03-09-2008, 05:57 AM

E.P. for Empty Pockets that is. Bought my first ever truck after driving the hand me down Saturn my parents gave me for my 16th b-day. It's a 1967 C10, SWB, small window, has a 250 inline six and two speed powerglide transmition. It's going to be a HUGE learning experience for me as I don't know too much about automotives but I've got a great desire to learn. This is going to go extremely slow as I'm only 16 and I only get $130.00 to spend on it every month. My job pays minimum wage, I only get like 13 hours a week, and every other paycheck goes to insurance. I'll be asking lots of questions as I start with the build on certain things, first ones going to be on the wheel cylinder. How do you get the bolt off that's holding on the wheel cylinder? Me and my dad finally ended up taking an impact wrench to it and it still didn't break, is there some trick to getting it off? Also, what is the part located between the hood and the windshield, it's severely messed up and I need to get a new one for the truck. Heres some pictures of us bringing it home from Moultrie and then some of the wheel cylinder and other miscellaneous pictures for you guys to look at. By the way, the truck runs and drives, it just has absolutely no breaks so we're replacing them. If you have any questions feel free to ask and I'll answer to the best of my ability.

As for the part mentioned above, does anyone have one they are willing to sell or give me a quote for one?

lukecp · 03-09-2008, 05:59 AM

Great start and enjoy working on your truck!

For the wheel cylinder, I ended up just grinding off the head on one of mine that was stuck. Since you'll be replacing the wheel cylinder anyway its not a big deal. Just be careful not to nick the brake line with your grinder, unless you are replacing those too, then no big deal.

I understand the minimum wage thing too...I got mine when I was 16 also, after driving a hand-me-down S10. I worked minimum wage jobs too all though high school and had to save up months for stuff, but it was a lot of fun!

*Dylan · 03-09-2008, 05:59 AM

*Dylan · 03-09-2008, 06:18 AM

Haha, Luke, I've got a Saturn SL as well, seems like were in the same boat. I'll see about grinding it off, gotta see what we have in the shop, think a dremels the best thing we have. Looks like I'll be buying some new tools in the process as well.

Bob 68327 · 03-09-2008, 06:40 AM

Looks like you got a great truck !!! The piece between the windshield and the hood is called a cowl . Wish you lived in Iowa I would give you one . I remember what it was like to be 16 and have a limited budget . I think the shipping on the cowl would be pricey from here. should be able to find one locally in good shape. Keep up the good work !!! I love to see young people showing interest in old trucks!!! Bob

*Dylan · 03-09-2008, 07:37 AM

Well hey, it may be cheaper to ship than to buy one. If your really up giving it up I can check on shipping prices and I'd be happy to pay for it.

Bob 68327 · 03-09-2008, 08:58 AM

Let me get a weight and shipping cost for you !!! PM me with your address . Monday I will try to get you a price . I should be able to ship it through the company my wife works for . Be patient with me it might take me a couple of days to get a price . If it 's not too much I may even pay for it for you . Like I said it's good to see someone of your age showing interest in doing this yourself and I would be glad to help you out !!! So PM me that address and let me see what I can do . The cowl that I have is maroon but in good shape and your more than welcome to it . I would rather see you have it than sell it . Just to show you this board is full of great people willing to help out !! Talk to you soon . Bob

*Dylan · 03-09-2008, 09:52 AM

Thanks loads Bob, just sent you the PM. If you've got AIM or MSN I can talk with you on there as well.

72BlckButy · 03-09-2008, 11:52 AM

Great looking build... good luck!

Bob 68327 · 03-10-2008, 01:56 AM

Here are a couple of pics of the cowl . Bob

*Dylan · 03-10-2008, 08:14 AM

Yeah, that looks much better than mine, on the passenger side, the part closest to the hood is completely bent in the opposite direction and has started to rust through.

Bob 68327 · 03-10-2008, 09:04 AM

Now I just have to get it to you ! I will keep you posted !! Bob

Bob 68327 · 03-11-2008, 01:36 AM

It's on it's way tomorrow !!!!! Enjoy !!! Bob

*Dylan · 03-11-2008, 05:15 AM

Thanks a ton man, if theres anything I can do for you let me know.

Update: Managed to get the bolt off, had to get a new socket wrench but it worked. Now it's just a matter or rebuilding all of the wheel cylinders and the brakes should be good to go(or so I hope).

Bob 68327 · 03-11-2008, 05:49 AM

No Problem !!! I'm warning you when you open it there are lots of shipping peanuts in the box . I hope it gets to you safely . It's insured so if it's destroyed when you get it let me know . Bob

Bob 68327 · 03-15-2008, 03:52 AM

Well I know you got it did it arrive safely? Bob

**ERIK D** · 03-15-2008, 05:25 AM

hey dylan,i have a complete wheel to wheel front cross member from my 67.i ve replaced mine w/one from fatmans fabrications.
this one already has disc brakes and is a 5 x 5 bolt pattern.
free for u,just come and get it or if u can arrange transport,let me know.
i ll like to help u out.

*Dylan · 03-15-2008, 05:51 AM

Oh man, that'd be awesome. Me and my dad were just talking of converting the brakes to disc. If you could, think I could get your zip and the weight of it so I can find out shipping costs. If possible I may even see if my dad can take me up there since he probably wouldn't let me drive all the way to N.C.

*Dylan · 03-15-2008, 06:14 AM

Thanks for the cowl Bob, heres some pics of it on my truck, remember, if theres anything I can do for you let me know.

Bob 68327 · 03-15-2008, 06:17 AM

The only thing you need to do for me is enjoy that truck and don't give up on it !!! Glad I could help you out

Bob

**ERIK D** · 03-15-2008, 07:09 AM

zip is 28205
the weight is pobably around 300#

*Dylan · 03-15-2008, 08:06 AM

Ouch, not sure if I'm doing the shipping costs right, or if theres any other way to ship it other than freight, but ups and fedex are both giving me estimates of around 560.00 to ship it. My zips 32327. Hopefully I can just talk my dad into driving up there with me.

Rokcrln · 03-15-2008, 07:15 PM

Try Greyhound I have heard they have good rates.

*Dylan · 03-15-2008, 11:49 PM

Just checked and they only allow for you to ship stuff under 100lbs.

**ERIK D** · 03-16-2008, 02:29 AM

if you can wait,i ll be going trough mobile,al in about a month or 5 weeks.
MAYBE WE CAN ARRANGE SOMETHING.

03-09-2008, 05:57 AM	#1
*Dylan Mean Buzzin' Half Dozen Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,081	The Project formerly known as "E.P." now known as Bruise N' Cruise E.P. for Empty Pockets that is. Bought my first ever truck after driving the hand me down Saturn my parents gave me for my 16th b-day. It's a 1967 C10, SWB, small window, has a 250 inline six and two speed powerglide transmition. It's going to be a HUGE learning experience for me as I don't know too much about automotives but I've got a great desire to learn. This is going to go extremely slow as I'm only 16 and I only get $130.00 to spend on it every month. My job pays minimum wage, I only get like 13 hours a week, and every other paycheck goes to insurance. I'll be asking lots of questions as I start with the build on certain things, first ones going to be on the wheel cylinder. How do you get the bolt off that's holding on the wheel cylinder? Me and my dad finally ended up taking an impact wrench to it and it still didn't break, is there some trick to getting it off? Also, what is the part located between the hood and the windshield, it's severely messed up and I need to get a new one for the truck. Heres some pictures of us bringing it home from Moultrie and then some of the wheel cylinder and other miscellaneous pictures for you guys to look at. By the way, the truck runs and drives, it just has absolutely no breaks so we're replacing them. If you have any questions feel free to ask and I'll answer to the best of my ability. As for the part mentioned above, does anyone have one they are willing to sell or give me a quote for one? __________________ "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." MY TRUCK (Now for sale) 1967 C10 SWB *Dylan* IIMY? Last edited by Dylan; 03-11-2008 at 12:13 AM.*

03-09-2008, 05:59 AM	#2
lukecp Formerly yellow72custom Join Date: May 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 7,531	Re: Project "E.P." Great start and enjoy working on your truck! For the wheel cylinder, I ended up just grinding off the head on one of mine that was stuck. Since you'll be replacing the wheel cylinder anyway its not a big deal. Just be careful not to nick the brake line with your grinder, unless you are replacing those too, then no big deal. I understand the minimum wage thing too...I got mine when I was 16 also, after driving a hand-me-down S10. I worked minimum wage jobs too all though high school and had to save up months for stuff, but it was a lot of fun! __________________ '72 Chevy C10 Mild 350/TH350/3.07. Ochre/White. Old high school ride. '70 GMC C2500 '62 327 4bbl/SM465/4.56-geared Dana 60. White/White. Project or parts truck. '97 Saturn SL DD. 1.9/5-speed. 40+ highway mpg Last edited by lukecp; 03-09-2008 at 06:03 AM.

03-09-2008, 05:59 AM	#3
*Dylan Mean Buzzin' Half Dozen Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,081	Re: Project "E.P." __________________ "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." MY TRUCK (Now for sale) 1967 C10 SWB *Dylan* IIMY?

03-09-2008, 06:18 AM	#4
*Dylan Mean Buzzin' Half Dozen Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,081	Re: Project "E.P." Haha, Luke, I've got a Saturn SL as well, seems like were in the same boat. I'll see about grinding it off, gotta see what we have in the shop, think a dremels the best thing we have. Looks like I'll be buying some new tools in the process as well. __________________ "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." MY TRUCK (Now for sale) 1967 C10 SWB *Dylan* IIMY?

03-09-2008, 06:40 AM	#5
Bob 68327 72 Chevelle Club Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Newton , Iowa Posts: 2,052	Re: Project "E.P." Looks like you got a great truck !!! The piece between the windshield and the hood is called a cowl . Wish you lived in Iowa I would give you one . I remember what it was like to be 16 and have a limited budget . I think the shipping on the cowl would be pricey from here. should be able to find one locally in good shape. Keep up the good work !!! I love to see young people showing interest in old trucks!!! Bob __________________ I Have The Right To Remain Silent,But Lack The Ability 1972 Chevelle ... Mine 2006 Trailblazer... Hers 2002 Buick century ... Kids 2002 K1500 Z-71 EXT CAB ... Daily Driver 2005 Rockwood Roo ... For Camping 1974 Harley-Davidson XLH Sportster 84'' stroker

03-09-2008, 07:37 AM	#6
*Dylan Mean Buzzin' Half Dozen Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,081	Re: Project "E.P." Well hey, it may be cheaper to ship than to buy one. If your really up giving it up I can check on shipping prices and I'd be happy to pay for it. __________________ "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." MY TRUCK (Now for sale) 1967 C10 SWB *Dylan* IIMY?

03-09-2008, 08:58 AM	#7
Bob 68327 72 Chevelle Club Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Newton , Iowa Posts: 2,052	Re: Project "E.P." Let me get a weight and shipping cost for you !!! PM me with your address . Monday I will try to get you a price . I should be able to ship it through the company my wife works for . Be patient with me it might take me a couple of days to get a price . If it 's not too much I may even pay for it for you . Like I said it's good to see someone of your age showing interest in doing this yourself and I would be glad to help you out !!! So PM me that address and let me see what I can do . The cowl that I have is maroon but in good shape and your more than welcome to it . I would rather see you have it than sell it . Just to show you this board is full of great people willing to help out !! Talk to you soon . Bob __________________ I Have The Right To Remain Silent,But Lack The Ability 1972 Chevelle ... Mine 2006 Trailblazer... Hers 2002 Buick century ... Kids 2002 K1500 Z-71 EXT CAB ... Daily Driver 2005 Rockwood Roo ... For Camping 1974 Harley-Davidson XLH Sportster 84'' stroker

03-09-2008, 09:52 AM	#8
*Dylan Mean Buzzin' Half Dozen Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,081	Re: Project "E.P." Thanks loads Bob, just sent you the PM. If you've got AIM or MSN I can talk with you on there as well. __________________ "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." MY TRUCK (Now for sale) 1967 C10 SWB *Dylan* IIMY?

03-09-2008, 11:52 AM	#9
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Project "E.P." Great looking build... good luck! __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

03-10-2008, 01:56 AM	#10
Bob 68327 72 Chevelle Club Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Newton , Iowa Posts: 2,052	Re: Project "E.P." Here are a couple of pics of the cowl . Bob Attached Images __________________ I Have The Right To Remain Silent,But Lack The Ability 1972 Chevelle ... Mine 2006 Trailblazer... Hers 2002 Buick century ... Kids 2002 K1500 Z-71 EXT CAB ... Daily Driver 2005 Rockwood Roo ... For Camping 1974 Harley-Davidson XLH Sportster 84'' stroker

03-10-2008, 08:14 AM	#11
*Dylan Mean Buzzin' Half Dozen Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,081	Re: Project "E.P." Yeah, that looks much better than mine, on the passenger side, the part closest to the hood is completely bent in the opposite direction and has started to rust through. __________________ "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." MY TRUCK (Now for sale) 1967 C10 SWB *Dylan* IIMY?

03-10-2008, 09:04 AM	#12
Bob 68327 72 Chevelle Club Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Newton , Iowa Posts: 2,052	Re: Project "E.P." Now I just have to get it to you ! I will keep you posted !! Bob __________________ I Have The Right To Remain Silent,But Lack The Ability 1972 Chevelle ... Mine 2006 Trailblazer... Hers 2002 Buick century ... Kids 2002 K1500 Z-71 EXT CAB ... Daily Driver 2005 Rockwood Roo ... For Camping 1974 Harley-Davidson XLH Sportster 84'' stroker

03-11-2008, 01:36 AM	#13
Bob 68327 72 Chevelle Club Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Newton , Iowa Posts: 2,052	Re: Project "E.P." It's on it's way tomorrow !!!!! Enjoy !!! Bob __________________ I Have The Right To Remain Silent,But Lack The Ability 1972 Chevelle ... Mine 2006 Trailblazer... Hers 2002 Buick century ... Kids 2002 K1500 Z-71 EXT CAB ... Daily Driver 2005 Rockwood Roo ... For Camping 1974 Harley-Davidson XLH Sportster 84'' stroker

03-11-2008, 05:15 AM	#14
*Dylan Mean Buzzin' Half Dozen Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,081	Re: Project "E.P." Thanks a ton man, if theres anything I can do for you let me know. Update: Managed to get the bolt off, had to get a new socket wrench but it worked. Now it's just a matter or rebuilding all of the wheel cylinders and the brakes should be good to go(or so I hope). __________________ "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." MY TRUCK (Now for sale) 1967 C10 SWB *Dylan* IIMY? Last edited by Dylan; 03-11-2008 at 05:41 AM.*

03-11-2008, 05:49 AM	#15
Bob 68327 72 Chevelle Club Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Newton , Iowa Posts: 2,052	Re: Project "E.P." No Problem !!! I'm warning you when you open it there are lots of shipping peanuts in the box . I hope it gets to you safely . It's insured so if it's destroyed when you get it let me know . Bob __________________ I Have The Right To Remain Silent,But Lack The Ability 1972 Chevelle ... Mine 2006 Trailblazer... Hers 2002 Buick century ... Kids 2002 K1500 Z-71 EXT CAB ... Daily Driver 2005 Rockwood Roo ... For Camping 1974 Harley-Davidson XLH Sportster 84'' stroker



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03-15-2008, 03:52 AM	#16
Bob 68327 72 Chevelle Club Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Newton , Iowa Posts: 2,052	Re: Project "E.P." Well I know you got it did it arrive safely? Bob __________________ I Have The Right To Remain Silent,But Lack The Ability 1972 Chevelle ... Mine 2006 Trailblazer... Hers 2002 Buick century ... Kids 2002 K1500 Z-71 EXT CAB ... Daily Driver 2005 Rockwood Roo ... For Camping 1974 Harley-Davidson XLH Sportster 84'' stroker

03-15-2008, 05:25 AM	#17
ERIK D Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: EAGLE PASS,TX Posts: 269	Re: Project "E.P." hey dylan,i have a complete wheel to wheel front cross member from my 67.i ve replaced mine w/one from fatmans fabrications. this one already has disc brakes and is a 5 x 5 bolt pattern. free for u,just come and get it or if u can arrange transport,let me know. i ll like to help u out.

03-15-2008, 05:51 AM	#18
*Dylan Mean Buzzin' Half Dozen Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,081	Re: Project "E.P." Oh man, that'd be awesome. Me and my dad were just talking of converting the brakes to disc. If you could, think I could get your zip and the weight of it so I can find out shipping costs. If possible I may even see if my dad can take me up there since he probably wouldn't let me drive all the way to N.C. __________________ "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." MY TRUCK (Now for sale) 1967 C10 SWB *Dylan* IIMY?

03-15-2008, 06:14 AM	#19
*Dylan Mean Buzzin' Half Dozen Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,081	Re: Project "E.P." Thanks for the cowl Bob, heres some pics of it on my truck, remember, if theres anything I can do for you let me know. __________________ "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." MY TRUCK (Now for sale) 1967 C10 SWB *Dylan* IIMY? Last edited by Dylan; 03-15-2008 at 06:15 AM.*

03-15-2008, 06:17 AM	#20
Bob 68327 72 Chevelle Club Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Newton , Iowa Posts: 2,052	Re: Project "E.P." The only thing you need to do for me is enjoy that truck and don't give up on it !!! Glad I could help you out Bob __________________ I Have The Right To Remain Silent,But Lack The Ability 1972 Chevelle ... Mine 2006 Trailblazer... Hers 2002 Buick century ... Kids 2002 K1500 Z-71 EXT CAB ... Daily Driver 2005 Rockwood Roo ... For Camping 1974 Harley-Davidson XLH Sportster 84'' stroker

03-15-2008, 07:09 AM	#21
ERIK D Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: EAGLE PASS,TX Posts: 269	Re: Project "E.P." zip is 28205 the weight is pobably around 300#

03-15-2008, 08:06 AM	#22
*Dylan Mean Buzzin' Half Dozen Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,081	Re: Project "E.P." Ouch, not sure if I'm doing the shipping costs right, or if theres any other way to ship it other than freight, but ups and fedex are both giving me estimates of around 560.00 to ship it. My zips 32327. Hopefully I can just talk my dad into driving up there with me. __________________ "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." MY TRUCK (Now for sale) 1967 C10 SWB *Dylan* IIMY?

03-15-2008, 07:15 PM	#23
Rokcrln Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Winters Ca. 95694 Posts: 4,843	Re: Project "E.P." Try Greyhound I have heard they have good rates.

03-15-2008, 11:49 PM	#24
*Dylan Mean Buzzin' Half Dozen Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,081	Re: Project "E.P." Just checked and they only allow for you to ship stuff under 100lbs. __________________ "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." MY TRUCK (Now for sale) 1967 C10 SWB *Dylan* IIMY?

03-16-2008, 02:29 AM	#25
ERIK D Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: EAGLE PASS,TX Posts: 269	Re: Project "E.P." if you can wait,i ll be going trough mobile,al in about a month or 5 weeks. MAYBE WE CAN ARRANGE SOMETHING.

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