RARE option in 69? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

69halfton · 05-06-2008, 04:19 PM

i was reading somewhere...maybe my owners manual?

something about a 4cyl diesel in my 69 truck.

my was a factory 6cyl, but could you actually get a diesel?

how many were made, i didn't think there really WAS such a thing back in the 60s.

Longhorn Man · 05-06-2008, 10:47 PM

that only came in the P/30 chassis if I am not mistaken.

**special-K** · 05-06-2008, 11:05 PM

The way I understand it the diesels were P-Series only.

**Bob B.** · 05-07-2008, 04:50 AM

Actually, the 3 cylinder 2 stroke Detroit 3-53 diesel was available in the P chassis from '67 to '69. There are rumors that a very few '67 pickups were built with V6 Toroflow diesels (a diesel version of the GMC V-6) but I doubt any of those were ever sold to the public. A few Toroflows have been retrofitted in '67-'72 pickups over the years.

TP from Cntl PA · 05-07-2008, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob B.

Actually, the 3 cylinder 2 stroke Detroit 3-53 diesel was available in the P chassis from '67 to '69. There are rumors that a very few '67 pickups were built with V6 Toroflow diesels (a diesel version of the GMC V-6) but I doubt any of those were ever sold to the public. A few Toroflows have been retrofitted in '67-'72 pickups over the years.

A guy who lived right across the road from a farm we rented came over daily to shoot the bull, he sold GM's from the begining of time it seemed and he said they were testing diesels in our trucks for railroads and fleet users and they were out there. Stupid me never questioned him anymore and he passed away. I always wondered what diesels they were. I assumed either Detroit or Toroflows.

Blazer1970 · 05-07-2008, 01:27 PM

The 1970 factory service manual shows 3 diesels

159 cid L-3 82 hp and 193 lb-ft available in PT30 series
212 cid L-4 130/278 in CD50 series
478 cid V-6 (DH478) 165/337 in CG50 series

I am not sure what chassis all of the series desigantions refer to, but clearly none of them are pickup trucks.

Rod · 05-09-2008, 06:21 AM

I came across a 4x4 67 GMC pickup that the Vin said it was a Diesel...but it had been swapped to a gas job in its life when I saw it.

1969stepside · 05-09-2008, 06:27 AM

that would be awesome option to have.someone on the forum must have pics of this

67_C-30 · 05-09-2008, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rod

I came across a 4x4 67 GMC pickup that the Vin said it was a Diesel...but it had been swapped to a gas job in its life when I saw it.

I heard some people say that some Toroflows made their way into some '67 pickups from the factory, but also heard other people say its not true. The way things were back then, I'd have to think there probably were a few that got out the door. I sure wish I could find one. Junk motor or not, I'd love to a Toroflow. (No, I don't know why?)

chip46wis · 05-09-2008, 11:10 AM

Rare corvette option maybe?

**Bob B.** · 05-09-2008, 11:10 AM

I have some friends that have a running Toroflow in a bus. They didn't have a great reputation (though GMC eventually got the bugs out of them). VERY tough to find parts for now. I have driven that bus on many occasions, and it does run pretty good.

69swbman · 05-09-2008, 11:28 PM

does ne body have pics of these engines nobody belives me i want to prove em wrong

**Bob B.** · 05-10-2008, 03:19 AM

Pictures of a Toroflow:

http://www.6066gmcguy.org/Diesel.htm

67_C-30 · 05-10-2008, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob B.

Pictures of a Toroflow:

http://www.6066gmcguy.org/Diesel.htm

Heres a few pics of Toroflows in some GMC pickups. Did they come in there or not???

Longhorn Man · 05-10-2008, 03:52 AM

the green one has a modified bed and suspention, so I would say it's almost certian to be a custom, the brown 67 has what looks like owner fabbed rad brackets, a fuel filter that looks like it's a later style to me... I would figure it is a swap too.

1969stepside · 05-10-2008, 07:00 AM

that is awesome i would want one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bigblockV6 · 05-11-2008, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rod

I came across a 4x4 67 GMC pickup that the Vin said it was a Diesel...but it had been swapped to a gas job in its life when I saw it.

iIf such was true then the first two letters starting in the VIN would be "KG" designating K for conventional series 4wd and G for ToroFlow V6 Diesel, or was it just KM for conventional series 4wd with V6 gas engine?

bigblockV6 · 05-11-2008, 08:16 AM

Check this photo of the DH 478 V6 Toroflow Diesel at http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1145...33798696BeHLIA.

Longhorn Man · 05-11-2008, 12:45 PM

K isn't conventional, K is 4X4. C is conventional
69 GMC VIN chart

bigblockV6 · 05-11-2008, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

K isn't conventional, K is 4X4. C is conventional
69 GMC VIN chart

If you read what I posted I meant K was for conventional series 4wd, the owner's manual states K-Conventional Cab (4x4) The wording is different but realistically what I wrote it means the same!!!!:

Longhorn Man · 05-12-2008, 04:44 AM

yeah, you are right. My photo even says you are right.
My converse shoe tastes like crap right now too.

bigblockV6 · 05-12-2008, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

yeah, you are right. My photo even says you are right.
My converse shoe tastes like crap right now too.

05-06-2008, 04:19 PM	#1
69halfton Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: King City, Ontario, Canada Posts: 974	RARE option in 69? i was reading somewhere...maybe my owners manual? something about a 4cyl diesel in my 69 truck. my was a factory 6cyl, but could you actually get a diesel? how many were made, i didn't think there really WAS such a thing back in the 60s. __________________ - Jason If you can turn, Youre not going fast enough. Favorite caption: first car to 200 mph in the 1/4 mile, no parachute, drum brakes all the way around.. ..back when men were men.

05-06-2008, 10:47 PM	#2
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: RARE option in 69? that only came in the P/30 chassis if I am not mistaken.

05-06-2008, 11:05 PM	#3
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05-07-2008, 04:50 AM	#4
Bob B. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,318	Re: RARE option in 69? Actually, the 3 cylinder 2 stroke Detroit 3-53 diesel was available in the P chassis from '67 to '69. There are rumors that a very few '67 pickups were built with V6 Toroflow diesels (a diesel version of the GMC V-6) but I doubt any of those were ever sold to the public. A few Toroflows have been retrofitted in '67-'72 pickups over the years. __________________ 1967 GMC CM-2500 Camper Cruiser, 351E V-6, NP 435 4 speed, Dana 60, and factory A/C. 2012 GMC K-3500 WT regular cab, 6.0L Vortec, 6L90.

05-07-2008, 01:27 PM	#6
Blazer1970 Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Old Mission, MI, USA Posts: 2,510	Re: RARE option in 69? The 1970 factory service manual shows 3 diesels 159 cid L-3 82 hp and 193 lb-ft available in PT30 series 212 cid L-4 130/278 in CD50 series 478 cid V-6 (DH478) 165/337 in CG50 series I am not sure what chassis all of the series desigantions refer to, but clearly none of them are pickup trucks. __________________ Tim

05-09-2008, 06:21 AM	#7
Rod Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Eastern - Manitoba Canada, Winnipeg Posts: 4,369	Re: RARE option in 69? I came across a 4x4 67 GMC pickup that the Vin said it was a Diesel...but it had been swapped to a gas job in its life when I saw it. __________________ Senior active founding member. 70 3/4 ton GMC Suburban 4x4 250/4 spd. 71 1/2 ton Suburban Chevy 4x4, 350/350 72 Chev 1 ton tow truck 402BB w/Holmes 440 wrecker on propane 2005 FLSTSCI Harley Springer 85 FXSB Harley Lowrider 72 Triumph 650 Bonneville 5spd "Poor people don't have hobbies" Quote from wife. Last edited by Rod; 05-09-2008 at 06:21 AM.

05-09-2008, 06:27 AM	#8
1969stepside Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Johnson City Tennessee Posts: 1,176	Re: RARE option in 69? that would be awesome option to have.someone on the forum must have pics of this __________________ Greater love hath no man than to lay down his life for a friend. Members i Have met Earl Slick68 1969 Stepside Build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4253546 Chevy Trucks the longest lasting most dependable trucks on the road

05-09-2008, 11:10 AM	#10
chip46wis Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Central Wisconsin Posts: 1,317	Re: RARE option in 69? Rare corvette option maybe?

05-09-2008, 11:10 AM	#11
Bob B. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,318	Re: RARE option in 69? I have some friends that have a running Toroflow in a bus. They didn't have a great reputation (though GMC eventually got the bugs out of them). VERY tough to find parts for now. I have driven that bus on many occasions, and it does run pretty good. __________________ 1967 GMC CM-2500 Camper Cruiser, 351E V-6, NP 435 4 speed, Dana 60, and factory A/C. 2012 GMC K-3500 WT regular cab, 6.0L Vortec, 6L90.

05-09-2008, 11:28 PM	#12
69swbman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: peaster,tx Posts: 59	Re: RARE option in 69? does ne body have pics of these engines nobody belives me i want to prove em wrong

05-10-2008, 03:19 AM	#13
Bob B. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,318	Re: RARE option in 69? Pictures of a Toroflow: http://www.6066gmcguy.org/Diesel.htm __________________ 1967 GMC CM-2500 Camper Cruiser, 351E V-6, NP 435 4 speed, Dana 60, and factory A/C. 2012 GMC K-3500 WT regular cab, 6.0L Vortec, 6L90.

05-10-2008, 03:52 AM	#15
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: RARE option in 69? the green one has a modified bed and suspention, so I would say it's almost certian to be a custom, the brown 67 has what looks like owner fabbed rad brackets, a fuel filter that looks like it's a later style to me... I would figure it is a swap too.

05-10-2008, 07:00 AM	#16
1969stepside Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Johnson City Tennessee Posts: 1,176	Re: RARE option in 69? that is awesome i would want one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Greater love hath no man than to lay down his life for a friend. Members i Have met Earl Slick68 1969 Stepside Build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4253546 Chevy Trucks the longest lasting most dependable trucks on the road

05-11-2008, 08:16 AM	#18
bigblockV6 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rohnert Park, California Posts: 31	Re: RARE option in 69? Check this photo of the DH 478 V6 Toroflow Diesel at http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1145...33798696BeHLIA.

05-11-2008, 12:45 PM	#19
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: RARE option in 69? K isn't conventional, K is 4X4. C is conventional 69 GMC VIN chart



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Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: RARE option in 69? yeah, you are right. My photo even says you are right. My converse shoe tastes like crap right now too.

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