Rocker box pictures

[70 Suburban]

THAT is the point i was making

[70 Suburban]

the outer is the same there are some minor changes on the inner.

[drunkbus]

Who's to say it's not Rocker Panel, Inner Rocker, and Rocker Box.

[drunkbus]

Torsion: the process or condition of twisting or being twisted.

So technically they would be anti-torsion boxes.

Just having some fun, not trying to make anyone mad.

[bouncytruck]

I've heard the terms torsion boxes and rocker boxes used to describe the same thing hear on the board - what VT posted in #7. For instance, WES has the same photo posted on his site and he calls them Rocker Boxes - http://classicheartbeat.com/catalog/...er%20Boxes.htm.

"You like potato and I like potahto, You like tomato and I like tomahto
Potato, potahto, Tomato, tomahto, Let's call the whole thing off"

[70 Suburban]

WES can call them what he wats but as for the Factory assembly manual. they are torsion.

[LUV2XCLR8]

Originally Posted by 70 Suburban

but as for the Factory assembly manual. they are torsion.

[lks dcvn]

Here is a shot of the items on a blazer/jimmy

These are all connection and important to the integrity of the body

[70 Suburban]

Originally Posted by lks dcvn

Here is a shot of the items on a blazer/jimmy

These are all connection and important to the integrity of the body

i feel bad for the blazer in this pic my heart goes out to you man.

[special-K]

C`mon guys,if you don`t know what you are talking about please listen to those that do.Just because you`ve been hearing parts called the wrong name doesn`t mean when you hear the right name it`s wrong.How can anyone help if no one listens?This board was made great and will continue to be by being a friendly place where we all can learn what we don`t know from those that do.If improper terminology goes unchecked it will destroy the point of different names for different items and no one will know what the other is saying.We all have names,right?When we`re in a crowd it helps narrow down who is being addressed by using the proper name.
The unigue to full top K/5s(remember Jimmys?) part who`s purpose is to give reienforcement to compensate for the strength lost when going topless is known as a torsion box.That`s what they are,were,and always will be.
Vtblazer "has" been inside a rocker box and so have I,as well as torsion boxes.I consider them a part of the floor structure (stiffener).They aren`t an outer body piece.A pickup or Blazer can have rotted rocker boxes w/o effecting the structure.Once the torsion boxes get soft your doors start moving.I`ve seen restored K/5s with no torsion boxes.That`s fine as long as the top stays on and minimal body twist.The top will crack in any serious off road action with the t-boxes gone.Some of us can vouche for that.
so,as said above from the outside in:
Outter rocker
Inner rocker
Torsion box

Can we all agree to agree?

[ed2552]

Glad to see you made it over, Jimmy!!

[PHAT TONY]

GOSH! I was just posting a couple pics of the area he was asking about because mine is complete and original and i assumed by the initial post a comparison was needed. wow.

[special-K]

Originally Posted by PHAT TONY

GOSH! I was just posting a couple pics of the area he was asking about because mine is complete and original and i assumed by the initial post a comparison was needed. wow.

And we thank you.That is what he wanted,but terminology just got goofy.People have been calling wheelcovers hubcaps forever and they are wrong.it`s all about the education here and fun.I just don`t like seeing people shunning correct information.GM calls them torque boxes.

[bouncytruck]

Originally Posted by special-K

And we thank you.That is what he wanted,but terminology just got goofy.People have been calling wheelcovers hubcaps forever and they are wrong.it`s all about the education here and fun.I just don`t like seeing people shunning correct information.GM calls them torque boxes.

What ya mean wheelcovers and hubcaps?




































Just kidding....

[JimmyFloyd]

Well, this is what mine looks like on the driver's side




and some other of his handiwork:

[drunkbus]

Originally Posted by special-K

And we thank you.That is what he wanted,but terminology just got goofy.People have been calling wheelcovers hubcaps forever and they are wrong.it`s all about the education here and fun.I just don`t like seeing people shunning correct information.GM calls them torque boxes.

I think a lot of this type of thing has to do with what part of the country you live in. Here on the West coast I've never heard of a hubcap being called anything other than a hubcap. If I heard someone say wheelcover I would think of those things you put over your wheels and tires when you paint a car. I ran into this back when I was in high school and a kid moved over here from Chicago. When we would ask for a "Pop" he would look confused and ask for a "Soda". I don't think anyone is necessarily right or wrong it's just a regional thing sometimes.

[70 Suburban]

Originally Posted by drunkbus

I think a lot of this type of thing has to do with what part of the country you live in. Here on the West coast I've never heard of a hubcap being called anything other than a hubcap. If I heard someone say wheelcover I would think of those things you put over your wheels and tires when you paint a car. I ran into this back when I was in high school and a kid moved over here from Chicago. When we would ask for a "Pop" he would look confused and ask for a "Soda". I don't think anyone is necessarily right or wrong it's just a regional thing sometimes.

no there are propper names for these items. These names come from GM not some catalog depending on location. Using the correct terminology will corrct the issue. gm on the spid calls them wheel covers so if I ask for a wheel cover there is no confusion. ist in black and white. if I ask for info on a rocker box and or panel there is no confusion. gm has laied it out for us. outer, inner, torsion. The correct termonalogy is there. its has nothing to do with the fact that I am in texas and its all if I ask for a coke I dont mean coke cola I mean whatever soda pop you may have.

[drunkbus]

So what's a hubcap? They may be wheelcovers according to GM but maybe Ford or Chrysler calls them hubcaps. Someone somewhere has to call them hubcaps or else that term would not be so widely used. I bet if there was a survey done, more people would know what a hubcap is over wheelcover.

[69-72]

Originally Posted by 70 Suburban

no there are propper names for these items. These names come from GM not some catalog depending on location. Using the correct terminology will corrct the issue. gm on the spid calls them wheel covers so if I ask for a wheel cover there is no confusion. ist in black and white. if I ask for info on a rocker box and or panel there is no confusion. gm has laied it out for us. outer, inner, torsion. The correct termonalogy is there. its has nothing to do with the fact that I am in texas and its all if I ask for a coke I dont mean coke cola I mean whatever soda pop you may have.

The assembly manual refers to the option sheet on the glove box door as a service parts identification plate, not decal so you should use proper terminology for that.

The fact of the matter is that everyone knows what the term rocker box applies to, you wouldn't use that term describing a part on a 1/2 ton.

[70 Suburban]

you are correct... but we are on a gm site....... so wheelcovers over caps....In general conversation I may call them hub caps......but a hub cap is icorrect... see its like this... a wheel cover is just that a wheel cover.. a hub cap is just that.. the little round thing on the end of the spindle (knuckle for those that realy know what it is) is a cap.the little disk that only coverd the lugs and knuckle cap is a hub cap.

[special-K]

Originally Posted by drunkbus

So what's a hubcap? They may be wheelcovers according to GM but maybe Ford or Chrysler calls them hubcaps. Someone somewhere has to call them hubcaps or else that term would not be so widely used. I bet if there was a survey done, more people would know what a hubcap is over wheelcover.

Originally Posted by 70 Suburban

you are correct... but we are on a gm site....... so wheelcovers over caps....In general conversation I may call them hub caps......but a hub cap is icorrect... see its like this... a wheel cover is just that a wheel cover.. a hub cap is just that.. the little round thing on the end of the spindle (knuckle for those that realy know what it is) is a cap.the little disk that only coverd the lugs and knuckle cap is a hub cap.

Gee,I was trying to clarify,not bring in another topic.A wheelcover is just that.It covers the wheel.Some say full wheelcover,which isn`t necessary if you know all wheelcovers are full coverage.A hub cap is just that.It covers the hub,which is the unit behind the wheel.Generally just outside the lugs on a wheel.Go buy a brake rotor.It`s either a complete unit or a hub and disc.We also call them dog dishes or dog dish hubcaps,which is unecessary since there are no dog dish wheelcovers.The piece that covers just the outer wheel bearing and spindle nut is known as a dust cap or spindle cap.
It is what it is,no matter who makes it.You can call something the wrong name and still have others understand.But,that doesn`t change what is correct.
Here in maryland we all know that soda,pop,and soft drink are all the same thing.Actually,I hear soda pop more and figured people abbreviated it and used either word.

[PHAT TONY]

Originally Posted by 70 Suburban

you are correct... but we are on a gm site....... so wheelcovers over caps....In general conversation I may call them hub caps......but a hub cap is icorrect... see its like this... a wheel cover is just that a wheel cover.. a hub cap is just that.. the little round thing on the end of the spindle (knuckle for those that realy know what it is) is a cap.the little disk that only coverd the lugs and knuckle cap is a hub cap.

I'm not trolling, I just couldn't resist; my truck never came with wheel covers.

[PHAT TONY]

I believe the dead horse can be drug/dragged away now.

[jaros44sr]

Don't drag the horse away guite yet, no,no,no, the hubcap only covers the wheel bearings...hence, the wheel hub, the hub cap. Now drag it away

[70 Suburban]

Its OK VT it was a foul point anyway.

back to the subject at hand. I use a snap on muscle mig 450sl. its a combo machine. I use the tig and the mig allot. only complaint is its a little hot when I tig but that my just be me. the aluminum spool works great when I am making brackets or repairs also.