Wing or vent window rebuild

[forestb]

The PO of my truck used pop rivets. It seemed to work. Does anyone have any reason why that is not a good idea? Someone else said they used button head bolts and a lock nut with the end of the bolt cut off flush with the nut.

[Larry64]

Originally Posted by forestb

The PO of my truck used pop rivets. It seemed to work. Does anyone have any reason why that is not a good idea? Someone else said they used button head bolts and a lock nut with the end of the bolt cut off flush with the nut.

With the pop rivet did you come in from the rubber side or the channel side? My rivets are to short to make it through the rubber.

[forestb]

I went in from the rubber side but after I did it I was worried that they were sticking to far out into the channel so I ended up removing those and getting the ones they sell specifically for the truck. Installing those ended up being a 2 man job but I was trying to do it with the frame still attached to the channel. I wish the tool that comes with the kit was a better quality. The tip started to flatten out.

[Metalaroundstone]

Originally Posted by biohazardbill

I also went with steele, they were very nice. Fair warning the rivets are a pain and do not come with the steele seals.

So once you installed your Steele vent rubber and put the rebuilt vent in the door, was the rubber nice and tight around the outside of the window frame? As shown in a previous post, my Precission vent window rubber left an 1/8" gap. Also, were you able to open and close the vent windows easily when you were done?

[forestb]

What year truck do you have? I tried installing my steel ruber gaskets on my vent window around on my 62 and they were a pain and did not fit varry well in the corners. I had to do a lot of training and am now worried they will leak.

I am not sure yet but I do not think they salve the gap problem between the gasket and the door. So far I am disappointed.

Originally Posted by biohazardbill

I also went with steele, they were very nice. Fair warning the rivets are a pain and do not come with the steele seals.

[Metalaroundstone]

I would like to hear from anyone who has installed Steele vent window rubber on a 64-66. Here are my questions:
Once you installed your Steele vent rubber and put the rebuilt vent in the door, was the rubber nice and tight around the outside of the window frame? As shown in a previous post, my Precission vent window rubber left an 1/8" gap. Also, were you able to open and close the vent windows easily when you were done?
Thanks

[64shortbox]

Subscribed. Great write up for when I get around to doing mine.

[Ghernandez66]

does anyone knows if theres any place that sells just the hardware? I took my vent windows apart few months back and apparently I saved the hardware somewhere really safe that I cant even find em my self... I dont want to purchase a whole set of vent windows just for the hardware so Im wondering if any of you guys know where to find it..

thanks in advance

[akqj9]

thanks!

[nelson-ohio]

Thanks Alan for a great thread.

I have started doing my 65 vend window, have a few questions:
- I know I need to use glass setting tape for the U Channel where the glass sit in. I find many different sizes on line (thickness and width), any idea what size is the best fit for it?
- I had to remove the felt in the separate channel(maybe it's called division bar), it mostly gone anyways. I'm trying to find a replacement for it. I think I found it on LMC, (part # 38-5946)but it seems to be the whole piece with the metal channel. Can I get just the felt replacement from somewhere? I can not find it. In the picture below, you can see the long division bar and the half pc felt that I removed.

[Lugnutz65]

Originally Posted by nelson-ohio

Thanks Alan for a great thread.

I have started doing my 65 vend window, have a few questions:
- I know I need to use glass setting tape for the U Channel where the glass sit in. I find many different sizes on line (thickness and width), any idea what size is the best fit for it?
- I had to remove the felt in the separate channel(maybe it's called division bar), it mostly gone anyways. I'm trying to find a replacement for it. I think I found it on LMC, (part # 38-5946)but it seems to be the whole piece with the metal channel. Can I get just the felt replacement from somewhere? I can not find it. In the picture below, you can see the long division bar and the half pc felt that I removed.

I hope Alan doesn't mind me jumping in.
Vendors sell vent rebuild kits but the kits often have a very thin felt insert for the division bar. Most people find it TOO thin and don't like it. Most vendors also sell an OEM style division bar insert that is much nicer, but also more expensive and it must be ordered as an additional item. WORTH EVERY PENNY to buy the nicer OEM style.
I got my vent rebuild kit from TruckandCarShop and they have 2 locations. Good prices too.

[nelson-ohio]

Thanks for the info on the OEM style division bar insert, I will get it from Truck & Car shop.

Any ideas on the thickness of the glass setting tape? They offer them in 0.031", 0.047" and 0.063" thickness.

[Lugnutz65]

Originally Posted by nelson-ohio

Thanks for the info on the OEM style division bar insert, I will get it from Truck & Car shop.

Any ideas on the thickness of the glass setting tape? They offer them in 0.031", 0.047" and 0.063" thickness.

I think I went with the 0.047". Just call truck and Car Shop and ask them what size is the best seller. Measure and buy an extra foot.

[88k5jimmy]

Is there anyway to re-host the pics for this write up? Also, has anybody investigated having the vent window not open, making it a solid non-operable piece of glass that utilizes a better seal and alleviates the issues with the seals not filling the gap between the vent window and door edge?

[nibulus]

Trying to mount the vent glass only, without disassembling the frame. The glass is simply missing.

I guess there‘s no need to take it apart, or am I wrong?

I‘m struggling mounting the glass though...

Is the bottom of the glass normally sort of wavy like the one I have (see below)? Or is it just poor quality?

[forestb]

Originally Posted by nibulus

Trying to mount the vent glass only, without disassembling the frame. The glass is simply missing.

I guess there‘s no need to take it apart, or am I wrong?

I‘m struggling mounting the glass though...

Is the bottom of the glass normally sort of wavy like the one I have (see below)? Or is it just poor quality?

I think it depends on what kind of shape your gasket is in. If it is in bad shape then I think you could. If it is in good shape than probably not. If your paint is in good shape I would not try it without taking out the frame. If you take out the frame it would be a good time to change the rubber seal also

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by 88k5jimmy

Is there anyway to re-host the pics for this write up? Also, has anybody investigated having the vent window not open, making it a solid non-operable piece of glass that utilizes a better seal and alleviates the issues with the seals not filling the gap between the vent window and door edge?

Sorry folks, Photobucket is holding my pics ransome. I do have all the pics that i have linked here.
I don't have edit capabilities to change previous post but i will see if a mod can edit my first post to include the link to pics until I can get this resolved.

[Afirehawk1]

Sounds like alot of work.
Why not swap out with reproductions?

[The Rocknrod]

Originally Posted by Afirehawk1

Sounds like alot of work.
Why not swap out with reproductions?

[dean jendro]

All this glass is just flat panel glass. Sounds like you don't have a pattern, but your glass person can pop out the other side and use that for a pattern. He would then re-install both glass with new glass tape and off you go. The idea of this post was to show how to properly rebuild the whole wing window but if everything is in good shape just put in a new piece of glass, otherwise take it apart and replace or repair all shoddy components.

[Alan's Classic]

Captainfab gave me this suggestion and it worked to view blocked pics. Here is is suggestion.

Originally Posted by Captainfab

Regarding the photobucket pics, all you need is to download the photobucket fir for the particular browser you are using. I use Firefox and downloaded the fix. I can see all pics in this thread as well as all others on this forum.

[CousinTone]

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

Captainfab gave me this suggestion and it worked to view blocked pics. Here is is suggestion.

Is there anything Captianfab doesn't know? I've been suffering for a long time, a quick click and all pics are showing up perfectly.

Thanks for taking the time to pass on the tip. Tony "V"

[Dodge68charger]

This Thread Is Exactly What I Need To Start My Rebuild... Any Way To Get The Pictures To Download. Not Working on Any ofmy Devices
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[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by Dodge68charger

This Thread Is Exactly What I Need To Start My Rebuild... Any Way To Get The Pictures To Download. Not Working on Any ofmy Devices
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This is a link to my google album that has all the pics. Maybe it will help for now.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ubCvVmf1xKJWahMW2

[Dodge68charger]

Awesome. Thank You
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