restoring bolts

[Truckstr]

Originally Posted by Thealien

If you want to do black oxide check the firearms boards. I refinsh firearms and if I want to get e real dark parkerising I black oxide finish it first. It is pretty easy and is the same black coating you see on impact sockets. IIRC I got my chemicals from caswell plating but there are many other places.

Ya know, I never thought about that. I have some cold bluing that I used on an old .22 rifle a long time ago. Good idea!

[Thealien]

Originally Posted by Truckstr

Ya know, I never thought about that. I have some cold bluing that I used on an old .22 rifle a long time ago. Good idea!

Black oxide and cold blue are two different chemicals/processes. I have never done cold blue so I am unsure of the rust preventing properties. I know black oxide works fairly well. If you do blue them post some pics please.

[Truckstr]

Like I said, I did the cold bluing on an old .22 rifle a long time ago. It turned out okay. It really turned out more black oxide looking than it did "gun blue".

I have been working on bolts, nuts and washers for my '67 for what seems like months. It's probably only weeks. lol I've been trying to keep everything segregated to where it goes. Lots of bolts to keep track of. To me, the details -like the bolts, etc., are what makes or breaks a build like what I'm doing.

On a side note, where is the best place to get new OEM type bolts - coating and all? I've been doing some work on my old '66. On the top of the fenders there are semi-bright colored, washer-head, hex-drive bolts/screws. I'd like to get new ones - just of those. The rest of the ones that I fiddling with are black oxide coated. I can deal with those. Maybe they're cad plated. I don't know for sure.

[Thealien]

I got the bolts and clips for the inner fender to fender from GMC Pauls. I think I've seen the complete front bolt kits both stainless and regular on EBAY. I use zip lock bags with paper in them stating where they go written with a sharpie marker. On more complex issues I'll take a few digital picture for looking at later. Black oxide is real easy, you mix the solution with distilled water and put the clean metal parts in it for a while. If I see the ebay add I'll link it.

[Spoof]

I would be very interested to know the chemical composition of the Quick Black. If you can't find out Esll I'll try researching it on the web and see what I can dig up. Cheers

[1972CheyenneSuper]

I found this neat little article on using the black oxide finish.
http://www.joesfalcon.com/nutsbolt/nutbolt2.html

And this place has a 1.25 gallon kit for $42 or a 2.5 gallon for $80. The 1.25 gallon kit is similar to Eastwoods.
http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/black.htm

Eastwoods:
http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?i...emType=PRODUCT


I think this is the way I'll go when I get to that point.

[Spoof]

Those products seem perfect. The more I think about it the more applications I can come up with...hood hinges, brake pedals, hood latch ,striker plates.
Diluted Muriatic acid apparently makes a great rust remover/metal cleaner to prep the bolts or what have you,but if you're not familiar with this acid...full eye, hand, face, you name it protection.

[EAST SIDE LOW LIFE]

Originally Posted by Spoof

I would be very interested to know the chemical composition of the Quick Black. If you can't find out Esll I'll try researching it on the web and see what I can dig up. Cheers

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Sorry Spoof got busy but here it is ..... Quick Black = Selenioust Phosphoric acids.

esll.

[Ackattack]

Looks like I'll be looking for a vibratory tumbler and some black oxide solution!

[Spoof]

That's great Esll. Now I'll see if I can hunt some of that down. According to the Eastwood oxide system it's a "temporary" agent good for about six months...probably the most you can ask from any product once exposed to the weather any how.

[EAST SIDE LOW LIFE]

[QUOTE=Spoof;2389248]That's great Esll. Now I'll see if I can hunt some of that down. According to the Eastwood oxide system it's a "temporary" agent good for about six months...probably the most you can ask from any product once exposed to the weather any how.[/QUOTE.

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I can not comment about Eastwood's system as I have not had the opportunity to use it. I can only say that the Quick Black that I have used last's a lot longer then 6 months. Next time your at the wreckers open doors, hoods ect. and look for bolts and you will find that they hold up quite well. To go to the effort to restore bolts and such items would be excessive in the restoration sense to winter drive such a vehicle. With that thought in mind I think you will be happy with the product that I posted.

The library has references for basic plating that might be of interest to you.

esll.

[bad6772]

i put mine in a maritic < spell acid and water mix, give it like 5 hours and they are good to go, rince them very well and coat in used motor oil. i have also used tranny oil just the threads......after they soak for a while i clean the access oil with laquer thinner then lightly prime then paint.........then i clean all access threads with a wire brush, and re oil.... never had a problem with this process ever..............hope this helps tony

[circuit_doc]

After using muratic acid to clean the part - rinse the item with TSP (Tri-sodium phosphate). It neutralize the acid and is a cleaner. TSP is a very common household cleaner and can be bought in a powdered form almost any where.

[Thealien]

BOLT RESTORATIONS!

A little something I put together.

[Thealien]

Originally Posted by 1972CheyenneSuper

I found this neat little article on using the black oxide finish.
http://www.joesfalcon.com/nutsbolt/nutbolt2.html

And this place has a 1.25 gallon kit for $42 or a 2.5 gallon for $80. The 1.25 gallon kit is similar to Eastwoods.
http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/black.htm

Eastwoods:
http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?i...emType=PRODUCT


I think this is the way I'll go when I get to that point.

I use the caswell and show the process in the link above!

[Mxracer202]

any body got more on the muriatic acid.

would like to just use its for a off roadin truck. so i dont care what they look like.

[scrapmetalart]

if they are rusty you can try electrolysis...

http://frontstcycle.blogspot.com/200...t-removal.html

http://frontstcycle.blogspot.com/200...l-is-good.html