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roughedup72 · 02-02-2010, 10:35 PM

Hey everybody, Whats a used zz4 crate engine worth out of a wrecked truck with low miles? I should probably post this in wiw but thought I might get more responses here. Its not mine just thinking about making it mine
Thanks

VA72C10 · 02-02-2010, 10:41 PM

it would depend to me heavily on the documentation on the miles/original purchase date and if I could hear it run and check it out (ie. pull valve covers and maybe intake)

roughedup72 · 02-03-2010, 08:46 AM

I've seen the engine and it looks good, no oil leaks. But still not sure of the miles. All I know is it was in a nice looking truck at one time. Its still pretty clean and sitting on the floor.

**DANTIP** · 02-03-2010, 08:50 AM

I think around $2,500????

bryanw1968 · 02-03-2010, 09:16 AM

Do a compression check. That will tell you a lot.

Huck · 02-03-2010, 09:33 AM

$100. in scrap----$250. if it's really a ZZ and rebuildable------maybe $1,000. if it can be proved to be good running--compression, miles, leakdown. Twice that if truly low miles (under 10,000) and in excellent condition. It is used, no telling if it was installed and oil primed properly, ---many of the GM crate motors have had a history of running hot so buyer beware. Is the factory warranty transferable---if so, I would buy it.

mrh33916 · 02-03-2010, 10:23 AM

I paid $2000 for one with low miles @10 years ago but was able to test drive it before the seller removed it from the truck it was in.

It is now a ZZ430 replica and still running very strong.

dan42 · 02-03-2010, 11:19 AM

Be careful of how the truck was wrecked as well - a lot of times the jolt of the accident can screw up a motor. And if it's a stroker, you have to ask yourself how it was treated - was it driven hard?

fastom · 02-03-2010, 12:33 PM

I have never heard of a wide spread problem of GM create engines running hot. I'm unable to find anything on the web about it either. I don't think that should be a concern.

A ZZ4 engine is selling for $4500 on Summit's site. Two years ago I was able to buy one of these engines new for $3695.

cdowns · 02-03-2010, 12:49 PM

$111-$333 seems good

roughedup72 · 02-03-2010, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cdowns

$111-$333 seems good

I agree with you cdowns.Not sure the owner of the engine would though,LOL. The truck was going fast enough to jump the curb get airborn and hit the tree. It hit right on the drivers side frame and bent it down at about a 70 degree angle. It really screwed it up good. And it is a zz4. It has it stamped on the head.

hotrod 80 · 02-03-2010, 05:37 PM

It should be an 880 block with L98 corvette aluminum heads . I duplicated the short block of one and had a set of vortecs and a hot cam and sold it for $1850 local . It was fresh and is now in a 57' chevy car . I would say less than $1000 or unless they can confirm it's in good shape .

roughedup72 · 02-03-2010, 08:02 PM

Thanks for all the replies, I have been considering it over the rebuilding of a vortec which I have recently ordered parts for. What kinda numbers do you think I could get out of it if I converted it to tbi? Or would a factory tbi even run it. I know I would have to go with the 454 injectors but dont know what else I would need to do.

LONGHAIR · 02-03-2010, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roughedup72

I should probably post this in wiw but thought I might get more responses here.

Yes you should.....and I moved it.
It is after-all a WIW and not 67-72 specific either.

Jonboy · 02-14-2010, 10:00 PM

A friend of mine bought one a year ago wrapped in a POS '84 Chevy 4x4. He gave $1000 for the whole thing.

**special-K** · 02-16-2010, 01:15 AM

It`s only a crate motor until you remove it from the crate.Now it`s a used motor.I`d never pay more than $500 for a used motor unless I knew it`s history from new and could test it running.
It`s true,if it was a hard hit in front I`d want to pull the heads and check lifters and push rods.I`ve seen L-shaped lifters in new motors.

02-02-2010, 10:35 PM	#1
roughedup72 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: south carolina Posts: 658	used zz4 crate engine.WIW Hey everybody, Whats a used zz4 crate engine worth out of a wrecked truck with low miles? I should probably post this in wiw but thought I might get more responses here. Its not mine just thinking about making it mine Thanks __________________ 1972 chevy cheyenne 10,nothing special at the moment,Its a work in progress, Working on the engine, paint and body,engine, paint and body,now its the suspenion, ahh hell I'm about tired of working on it. Maybe it will be a rat rod. Last edited by roughedup72; 02-02-2010 at 10:35 PM.

02-02-2010, 10:41 PM	#2
VA72C10 VA72C10 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 25,267	Re: used zz4 crate engine.WIW it would depend to me heavily on the documentation on the miles/original purchase date and if I could hear it run and check it out (ie. pull valve covers and maybe intake) __________________ Looking for a 67-72 swb or blazer project in or around VA.

02-03-2010, 08:46 AM	#3
roughedup72 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: south carolina Posts: 658	Re: used zz4 crate engine.WIW I've seen the engine and it looks good, no oil leaks. But still not sure of the miles. All I know is it was in a nice looking truck at one time. Its still pretty clean and sitting on the floor. __________________ 1972 chevy cheyenne 10,nothing special at the moment,Its a work in progress, Working on the engine, paint and body,engine, paint and body,now its the suspenion, ahh hell I'm about tired of working on it. Maybe it will be a rat rod.

02-03-2010, 08:50 AM	#4
DANTIP Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA Posts: 1,888	Re: used zz4 crate engine.WIW I think around $2,500????

02-03-2010, 09:16 AM	#5
bryanw1968 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Leander, Texas Posts: 850	Re: used zz4 crate engine.WIW Do a compression check. That will tell you a lot.

02-03-2010, 09:33 AM	#6
Huck Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Shelbyville, KY Posts: 3,261	Re: used zz4 crate engine.WIW $100. in scrap----$250. if it's really a ZZ and rebuildable------maybe $1,000. if it can be proved to be good running--compression, miles, leakdown. Twice that if truly low miles (under 10,000) and in excellent condition. It is used, no telling if it was installed and oil primed properly, ---many of the GM crate motors have had a history of running hot so buyer beware. Is the factory warranty transferable---if so, I would buy it.

02-03-2010, 10:23 AM	#7
mrh33916 Project '67 454 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Columbia SC Posts: 283	Re: used zz4 crate engine.WIW I paid $2000 for one with low miles @10 years ago but was able to test drive it before the seller removed it from the truck it was in. It is now a ZZ430 replica and still running very strong.

02-03-2010, 11:19 AM	#8
dan42 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cali Central Coast Posts: 5,191	Re: used zz4 crate engine.WIW Be careful of how the truck was wrecked as well - a lot of times the jolt of the accident can screw up a motor. And if it's a stroker, you have to ask yourself how it was treated - was it driven hard? __________________ '67 SWB Fleetside ZZ4/350/Tremec 5-speed/4link/Scott's IFS - and fun as heck! SOLD Click here to support the board Philippians 4: 6-7

02-03-2010, 12:33 PM	#9
fastom That's right, it's Copper!! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Central California Posts: 558	Re: used zz4 crate engine.WIW I have never heard of a wide spread problem of GM create engines running hot. I'm unable to find anything on the web about it either. I don't think that should be a concern. A ZZ4 engine is selling for $4500 on Summit's site. Two years ago I was able to buy one of these engines new for $3695. __________________ Tom: 1968 Chevy SWB ZZ383 W/700R4 Gen-II Compact Vintage Air System PPG paint, Mandarin Copper and Vanilla Shake. http://www.hubgarage.com/mygarage/fastom Stupid should hurt and eventually become fatal! Last edited by fastom; 02-03-2010 at 12:38 PM.

02-03-2010, 12:49 PM	#10
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: used zz4 crate engine.WIW $111-$333 seems good __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

02-03-2010, 05:37 PM	#12
hotrod 80 mini truck racer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Baytown , texas Posts: 3,010	Re: used zz4 crate engine.WIW It should be an 880 block with L98 corvette aluminum heads . I duplicated the short block of one and had a set of vortecs and a hot cam and sold it for $1850 local . It was fresh and is now in a 57' chevy car . I would say less than $1000 or unless they can confirm it's in good shape . __________________ 1949 5-window 1969 Camaro 1976 Chevy Luv yellow 1978 Chevy Luv Blue 1976 Chevy Luv Black 1979 Firebird Flooded in Harvey 1999 F350 Dually 2005 GMC Sierra 4.8 RCSB 2014 Explorer (wifes) My build :http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=399148 Build #2: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=653583

02-03-2010, 08:02 PM	#13
roughedup72 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: south carolina Posts: 658	Re: used zz4 crate engine.WIW Thanks for all the replies, I have been considering it over the rebuilding of a vortec which I have recently ordered parts for. What kinda numbers do you think I could get out of it if I converted it to tbi? Or would a factory tbi even run it. I know I would have to go with the 454 injectors but dont know what else I would need to do. __________________ 1972 chevy cheyenne 10,nothing special at the moment,Its a work in progress, Working on the engine, paint and body,engine, paint and body,now its the suspenion, ahh hell I'm about tired of working on it. Maybe it will be a rat rod.

02-14-2010, 10:00 PM	#15
Jonboy Slots go on anything! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 5,957	Re: used zz4 crate engine.WIW A friend of mine bought one a year ago wrapped in a POS '84 Chevy 4x4. He gave $1000 for the whole thing. __________________ 1974 Jimmy- 5.3/4L80e/NP241

02-16-2010, 01:15 AM	#16
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: used zz4 crate engine.WIW It`s only a crate motor until you remove it from the crate.Now it`s a used motor.I`d never pay more than $500 for a used motor unless I knew it`s history from new and could test it running. It`s true,if it was a hard hit in front I`d want to pull the heads and check lifters and push rods.I`ve seen L-shaped lifters in new motors. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ Last edited by special-K; 02-16-2010 at 01:16 AM.

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