Pan Hard bar problem after axle swap - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

texanidiot25 · 02-13-2010, 05:01 PM

The large stud that comes off the axle housing on the new GM 12bolt is shorter than the one from the Dana 60 that just came off. The bar is lined up too far towards the rear of the truck to bolt up to the GM 12 bolt. What gives? Is there a different legth stud that can be found? Can't swap the studs between the axles, since the Dana's is thicker...

texanidiot25 · 02-13-2010, 08:31 PM

ttt, really need some info on this.

Hottrucks · 02-13-2010, 08:50 PM

looks like you have a pretty good drop....why not make up a new bar and run it to the back of the trailing arm...?

BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 02-13-2010, 08:54 PM

Check out this site http://www.classicperform.com/NewPro...ionPackage.htm They have about every style of bar you can imagine.

texanidiot25 · 02-13-2010, 11:52 PM

Unfortunatly I don't have the time or money at the moment to get aftermarket stuff, nor the tools to build. Need to have it going ideally by monday..

What I'm asking is why don't factory parts bolt up? There's no way any bar will work (that's not kinked, and every aftermarket one I've seen in person is straight) since the bracket and rear end doesn't line up... The Dana had the panhard spaced further away from the axle and had no problem lining up, but the 12 bolt's panhard stud doesn't come out far enough..

BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 02-14-2010, 12:15 AM

http://www.classicperform.com/Store/...ck/CP32021.htm Not even this bar? It is bent to clear the diff cover and they also have new studs available.

dfwright · 02-14-2010, 12:18 AM

Does the bracket need to be moved?

texanidiot25 · 02-14-2010, 12:22 AM

Well that's all I need is that stud, a longer one like the Dana had and there's no problem. Even at this 3" drop, the pan hard is only off center by a 1/4 of an inch, and it's near level at ride height.

Are there different length studs from the factory? There's a junkyard near here with a few of these trucks, but curious if it's worth driving out.

RTAS Rear End Track Arm Mount Stud, ea $19.00
http://www.classicperform.com/6092chevtrk.htm#44

Is this it?

DFWRIGHT- It's an option, just don't have the tools where the truck is at to chisel off the rivets and drill holes. Unless there's other holes in the frame? If I could move the whole bracket forward an inch or so, or rotate it..

BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 02-14-2010, 12:58 AM

Yes I believe the RTAS is the one you need to get this fixed. I don't know if there are different studs that came out from the factory or not though. Hopefully you can get it fixed!!

OhOneWS6 · 02-14-2010, 11:13 AM

Maybe a pic would hep. Someone might see something you are missing.

71Bowties · 02-15-2010, 10:14 AM

Subscribed.

I want to keep an eye on this thread cause I am swapping over to a coil spring rear suspension with a D60 rearend. I am wondering if it the coil spring suspension with the D60 actually mounts the panyard bar back farther on the frame due to the fact that the stud is longer to clear the bigger dif cover?

Willys47 · 02-15-2010, 11:43 AM

that stud is longer to keep the panhard bar fron hitting the dif cover.On the Eaton ho52? the bar was longer and a bracket was welded to the axle tube and not to the center housing as in the 12 bolt and I guess the Dana 60.

71Bowties · 02-18-2010, 10:01 AM

Just fyi, here is a picture of a D60 with a stock panyard bar in it for reference.

02-13-2010, 05:01 PM	#1
texanidiot25 Eat My Rust Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 3,362	Pan Hard bar problem after axle swap The large stud that comes off the axle housing on the new GM 12bolt is shorter than the one from the Dana 60 that just came off. The bar is lined up too far towards the rear of the truck to bolt up to the GM 12 bolt. What gives? Is there a different legth stud that can be found? Can't swap the studs between the axles, since the Dana's is thicker... Last edited by texanidiot25; 02-13-2010 at 08:30 PM.

02-13-2010, 08:31 PM	#2
texanidiot25 Eat My Rust Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 3,362	Re: Pan Hard bar problem after axle swap ttt, really need some info on this.

02-13-2010, 08:50 PM	#3
Hottrucks Redefining LowBudget Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: lebanon Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,538	Re: Pan Hard bar problem after axle swap looks like you have a pretty good drop....why not make up a new bar and run it to the back of the trailing arm...? __________________ 1970 C10 CST fleetside 472 ....big dreams little cash... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=335721 SunShine Syndicate.. Mikes Sandwich Fair Run OCT 8th 2011 http://www.thesandwichfair.com/html/...auto_show.html

02-13-2010, 11:52 PM	#5
texanidiot25 Eat My Rust Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 3,362	Re: Pan Hard bar problem after axle swap Unfortunatly I don't have the time or money at the moment to get aftermarket stuff, nor the tools to build. Need to have it going ideally by monday.. What I'm asking is why don't factory parts bolt up? There's no way any bar will work (that's not kinked, and every aftermarket one I've seen in person is straight) since the bracket and rear end doesn't line up... The Dana had the panhard spaced further away from the axle and had no problem lining up, but the 12 bolt's panhard stud doesn't come out far enough.. Last edited by texanidiot25; 02-14-2010 at 12:09 AM.

02-14-2010, 12:15 AM	#6
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	Re: Pan Hard bar problem after axle swap http://www.classicperform.com/Store/...ck/CP32021.htm Not even this bar? It is bent to clear the diff cover and they also have new studs available. __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA

02-13-2010, 08:54 PM	#4
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	Re: Pan Hard bar problem after axle swap Check out this site http://www.classicperform.com/NewPro...ionPackage.htm They have about every style of bar you can imagine. __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA

02-14-2010, 12:18 AM	#7
dfwright Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 1,374	Re: Pan Hard bar problem after axle swap Does the bracket need to be moved? __________________ 1972 C10 LWB, 350/350 Deconstruction began 5/2009, mostly completed restoration, 5/2017

02-14-2010, 12:22 AM	#8
texanidiot25 Eat My Rust Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 3,362	Re: Pan Hard bar problem after axle swap Well that's all I need is that stud, a longer one like the Dana had and there's no problem. Even at this 3" drop, the pan hard is only off center by a 1/4 of an inch, and it's near level at ride height. Are there different length studs from the factory? There's a junkyard near here with a few of these trucks, but curious if it's worth driving out. RTAS Rear End Track Arm Mount Stud, ea $19.00 http://www.classicperform.com/6092chevtrk.htm#44 Is this it? DFWRIGHT- It's an option, just don't have the tools where the truck is at to chisel off the rivets and drill holes. Unless there's other holes in the frame? If I could move the whole bracket forward an inch or so, or rotate it.. Last edited by texanidiot25; 02-14-2010 at 12:27 AM.

02-14-2010, 12:58 AM	#9
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	Re: Pan Hard bar problem after axle swap Yes I believe the RTAS is the one you need to get this fixed. I don't know if there are different studs that came out from the factory or not though. Hopefully you can get it fixed!! __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA

02-14-2010, 11:13 AM	#10
OhOneWS6 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 764	Re: Pan Hard bar problem after axle swap Maybe a pic would hep. Someone might see something you are missing. __________________ 72 Cheyenne Super 1/2 LWB White/Dark Yellow 07 Avalanche 2LT 74 Sleek Craft Rebel Jet Boat W/Pontiac 400

02-15-2010, 10:14 AM	#11
71Bowties Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montrose. Colorado Posts: 58	Re: Pan Hard bar problem after axle swap Subscribed. I want to keep an eye on this thread cause I am swapping over to a coil spring rear suspension with a D60 rearend. I am wondering if it the coil spring suspension with the D60 actually mounts the panyard bar back farther on the frame due to the fact that the stud is longer to clear the bigger dif cover? __________________ 71 GMC C15 swb 71 K5 Blazer 72 K10 Woodhauler 89 Suburban 13 Duramax Last edited by 71Bowties; 02-15-2010 at 10:16 AM.

02-15-2010, 11:43 AM	#12
Willys47 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Nanaimo B.C. Posts: 604	Re: Pan Hard bar problem after axle swap that stud is longer to keep the panhard bar fron hitting the dif cover.On the Eaton ho52? the bar was longer and a bracket was welded to the axle tube and not to the center housing as in the 12 bolt and I guess the Dana 60. __________________ I was hooked on these trucks since 1982 when I drove my budys fathers 1968 Custum GMC 396 automatic dana 60 rear with a power lock diff what a ride more fun then we will we can ever tell!! Last edited by Willys47; 02-18-2010 at 11:08 AM.

02-18-2010, 10:01 AM	#13
71Bowties Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montrose. Colorado Posts: 58	Re: Pan Hard bar problem after axle swap Just fyi, here is a picture of a D60 with a stock panyard bar in it for reference. __________________ 71 GMC C15 swb 71 K5 Blazer 72 K10 Woodhauler 89 Suburban 13 Duramax

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