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Old 06-10-2010, 10:12 PM   #1
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vintage air

What do i need to know about the vintage air magnum IV and adapting that to a ls motor? Is it better to order there compressor or to use a factory air compressor. Also Has anyone purchased there vintage air from summit?
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:15 PM   #2
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Re: vintage air

I think Summit just began carrying Vintage Air in the last few months or so?
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:26 PM   #3
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Re: vintage air

no clue i got on there lastnight and found the whole setuphttp://www.summitracing.com/parts/VTA-671400-VUZ/
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:27 PM   #4
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Re: vintage air

im not actually sure if its all there or what i need to make it work with the 5.3 im hoping 68 short step chimes in or someone that has messed with this
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:31 PM   #5
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Re: vintage air

thats pretty cheap isnt it???
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:31 PM   #6
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Re: vintage air

That system is too big for our trucks. I used the Gen-II compact system in my truck. I fits behind the dash nicely without too much fab work.
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:57 PM   #7
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Re: vintage air

well 68 short step used this magnum IV setup on killers truck just fine it can be done
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:57 PM   #8
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thats pretty cheap isnt it???
ya it seems to cheap to me also thats why im wonderings whats all missing lol
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Old 06-10-2010, 11:10 PM   #9
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Re: vintage air

that's just for the core itself....still need the compressor, lines, bulkhead, vents, controller, condenser, drier, etc.etc.etc.
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Old 06-10-2010, 11:19 PM   #10
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Re: vintage air

well will the stock compressor on a 5.3 ls motor work? or does it need replaced with there system
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Old 06-10-2010, 11:21 PM   #11
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Re: vintage air

does anyone know any websites to order the complete kit off of?
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Old 06-10-2010, 11:41 PM   #12
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Re: vintage air

http://vintageair.com/cat2007/51.pdf

They do offer a compleate kit for our trucks. BOOYA

Ya do have to look around for the price list on their site a bit. but it is the summthin like $1200. and you have to go through one of their certified dealers.
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Old 06-10-2010, 11:54 PM   #13
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does anyone know any websites to order the complete kit off of?
Here is another Complete System: $1245

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Old 06-10-2010, 11:59 PM   #14
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Re: vintage air

ya i was looking for the magnum IV because its all drive by wire no cables involved. i knew vintage airs website had prices and u had to go through there dealers i just didnt know if there was a place to order it on the net.
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Old 06-11-2010, 12:00 AM   #15
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Re: vintage air

also i dont know whats involved when using that kit and tryin to use a factory 5.3 compressor
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Old 06-11-2010, 12:35 AM   #16
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Re: vintage air

Most likely you will be able to use the factory compressor on the 5.3.

Most late model compressors can handle either clutch cycling or constant run systems. Use the proper type and amount of oil for the compressor. The oil may be listed on the comp label, other wise check with a dealer. As for the amount, Vintage Air should have an idea about that.

FYI, I used to test automotive AC compressors. My guess is educated.
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Old 06-11-2010, 12:42 AM   #17
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Re: vintage air

Call Scotts Hotrods we are a Vintage Air Dealer and we have sold several kits to
Board members here over the last two months.We have some great deals
on them.E-mail us at justin@scottshotrods.com and we will give you prices
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Old 06-11-2010, 01:01 AM   #18
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Re: vintage air

Do VA kits come with or w/o the compressor/bracket/pulley?
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Old 06-11-2010, 01:20 AM   #19
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When you purchase the Va sure fit kit for your year truck they come 100%complete
and the best thing is it is 100%bolt on.Yes the comp bracket does come with the kit
and the comp has the pulley on it.Like I said earlier shoot us a e-mail we will take care
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Old 06-11-2010, 01:23 AM   #20
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Re: vintage air

you can't use the LSx compressor with VA system. They are a variable ratio compressor and when doing retrofits, there is no way to control the output and have to be run full out. If so, they will die an ugly death in short order. AND WILLl VOID any Vintage Air warranty.

There is only one company I know of with adapter brackets to run Sanden 508 compressor on LSx and it is Kwik Performance. All other bracket systems use SD7 compressors, which is ok to use since the front runner system uses them. VA may have recently released a conversion bracket as there was some talk of it on another board the other day
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Old 06-11-2010, 11:06 AM   #21
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Re: vintage air

good to know
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Old 06-12-2010, 01:55 AM   #22
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Re: vintage air

Unless your in a hurry, check with me in about a month or two. I plan on using the magnum IV in my burb' and I should have it up and running again soon. I'm going to try and get down to Summit this weekend to pick up ( if in stock ) the unit so I can begin the mock-up of everything.
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Unless your in a hurry, check with me in about a month or two. I plan on using the magnum IV in my burb' and I should have it up and running again soon. I'm going to try and get down to Summit this weekend to pick up ( if in stock ) the unit so I can begin the mock-up of everything.
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Re: vintage air

I do not believe that all LS compressors are variable. As of 2007, only Denso had a really good variable. The Visteon VS16 was just coming on line and was being built in Hungary. A variable compressor is easy to recognize. There will be a connector point on the body to supply the PWM signal to the control solenoid. There may or may not be an actual clutch. Some just have a drive pulley.
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