Header heat making my oil filter glue to the block? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Low69CST · 05-24-2003, 09:22 PM

I changed the oil again today on my 69. It was all i could do to get the oil filter off. I don't think i'm putting it on too hard, I have 2 other trucks i drive and have no problems getting them off, but on my 69 I have a set of headers that run fairly close to the filter. Could those be making my filter glue itsself to the block?

Longhorn Man · 05-24-2003, 11:39 PM

Hmmm, running headers myself since '98 and never had this problem.

Blackhawkdc · 05-25-2003, 12:17 AM

I'm running headers and did have that problem. But I use synthetic and don't drive my truck everyday. So I only change the oil once a year in the spring. 7 quarts of full synthetic gets rather expensive.

SEVEND2 · 05-25-2003, 01:52 AM

a friend of mine made a heat shield for his to cover the starter and oil filter.. he used hose clamps to mount them to headers

maybe some thing to think about and try, might work

73stepside · 05-25-2003, 04:46 AM

mine does that. i have to use filter pliers to get it off. if looks like channel locks with big teeth. they will crush and pierce a filter no problem. but they sure do make it easy to get off.

68 Suburban · 05-25-2003, 06:33 AM

Another reason why I will never use headers again

Low69CST · 05-25-2003, 09:06 AM

I've got a 6 quart pan with kickouts on the side, plus the headers so its kind of difficult to get to. I don't even run the truck that long, I just start it up for a few minutes, let it heat up and let the fans coolit down through a couple of cycles and shut it off. Maybe its just the tendancy of the oil filter strap thing I have to crush the filter while your taking it off. I'll try using this strap on my S-10 and see if I get the same results.

Blue Beard · 05-25-2003, 09:40 AM

My question would be was the oil filter gasket lubed before the install....?

Just a thin coat of oil on the rubber gasket will make a big difference......and don't over tighten..

Low69CST · 05-25-2003, 10:25 AM

yeah, i always put oil on the gaskets and fill up the filter as much as possible with oil. I've got 2 other trucks I change oil in and never have this problem.

BLAZERMAN · 05-25-2003, 12:39 PM

I had the same problem on my 69, the headers come very close to the filter and hardly any room for a filter wrench, I went to a 2 qt filter [fram ph373], this brings the filter below the headers and I believe keeps the filter cooler.

Alaskan · 05-25-2003, 03:08 PM

You could go to a remote filter using a relocation kit. Just my 2 cents

Low69CST · 05-25-2003, 03:52 PM

Theres no way in the world I could use that 2 qt. filter. Mine is sitting on the ground. So the long filter would be trouble on my ride. I've thought about using an oil cooler, but the thought of a loose line scares me. I may try to make a heat sheild for it.

ckhd · 05-25-2003, 04:21 PM

It looks like those headers are touching the filter! They are very close.

I think it could easily be causing your problem. It could also cause other problems too, like getting the oil too hot... doing bad things to the element in the filter, etc...

I would definately get a filter relocation kit and move the filter somewhere else.

SEVEND2 · 05-26-2003, 02:34 AM

I got the hedman headers made for 67-72 350 engines style trucks. got lots of clearance

cruzn72 · 05-26-2003, 06:34 PM

I used to have a set of full lenght headers on my 350. I never had a problem with the filter sticking. I now have a set of block hugger headers and there is a ton of clearance.

ZOOMY · 05-28-2003, 02:21 AM

Bluebeard hit it right. Lube the gasket with some oil and hand tighten only !!!

jku72 · 05-28-2003, 09:51 AM

If the oil on the seal is burning off, or cooking the rubber, try using some high temp antisieze instead of oil. Just be sure not to gunk it so that it goes into the oil side.

68 Suburban · 05-28-2003, 10:19 AM

Blazerman, you need a skid plate just for your oil filter

05-24-2003, 09:22 PM	#1
Low69CST Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Frankfort, Kentucky, USA Posts: 2,163	Header heat making my oil filter glue to the block? I changed the oil again today on my 69. It was all i could do to get the oil filter off. I don't think i'm putting it on too hard, I have 2 other trucks i drive and have no problems getting them off, but on my 69 I have a set of headers that run fairly close to the filter. Could those be making my filter glue itsself to the block? __________________ '69 CST Short fleetside Lowered, 400 small block, 700R4, 4 wheel disc brakes, front sway bar & rear camaro sway bar (in progress) '87 V10 4x4 Short Fleetside Quad Suspension and Dual Tanks

05-25-2003, 12:17 AM	#3
Blackhawkdc 440 american Horses Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Anoka, MN USA Posts: 470	I'm running headers and did have that problem. But I use synthetic and don't drive my truck everyday. So I only change the oil once a year in the spring. 7 quarts of full synthetic gets rather expensive. __________________ Seth Petro 1969 Chev Short Step 425hp 350, TH400, big tires, fast truck 1979 Pontiac Trans Am 1991 Saturn SL1 - gas mileage! (and free) 1977 Buick LeSabre - for sale May America bless God, and may God bless America

05-25-2003, 01:52 AM	#4
SEVEND2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Menifee, Calif, USA Posts: 2,145	a friend of mine made a heat shield for his to cover the starter and oil filter.. he used hose clamps to mount them to headers maybe some thing to think about and try, might work __________________ With a 1972 Chevy Custom-10 Long bed w/350cid th350, (under-construction). Progress on truck so far (follow link): http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ad.php?t=51051 and stage 2 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ad.php?t=58132 ~ "Why couldn't you have just put the bunny back in the box?" ~

05-25-2003, 04:46 AM	#5
73stepside Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Moore OK 73160 Posts: 974	mine does that. i have to use filter pliers to get it off. if looks like channel locks with big teeth. they will crush and pierce a filter no problem. but they sure do make it easy to get off. __________________ 04 GMC Sierra RCSS 70 CST LWB 04 HD Sportster 1200 Custom

05-25-2003, 06:33 AM	#6
68 Suburban Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: From Chicago, Live in Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,802	Another reason why I will never use headers again __________________ Just sitting here contemplating contemplation.

05-24-2003, 11:39 PM	#2
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Hmmm, running headers myself since '98 and never had this problem.

05-25-2003, 09:06 AM	#7
Low69CST Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Frankfort, Kentucky, USA Posts: 2,163	I've got a 6 quart pan with kickouts on the side, plus the headers so its kind of difficult to get to. I don't even run the truck that long, I just start it up for a few minutes, let it heat up and let the fans coolit down through a couple of cycles and shut it off. Maybe its just the tendancy of the oil filter strap thing I have to crush the filter while your taking it off. I'll try using this strap on my S-10 and see if I get the same results. __________________ '69 CST Short fleetside Lowered, 400 small block, 700R4, 4 wheel disc brakes, front sway bar & rear camaro sway bar (in progress) '87 V10 4x4 Short Fleetside Quad Suspension and Dual Tanks

05-25-2003, 09:40 AM	#8
Blue Beard Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 8,831	My question would be was the oil filter gasket lubed before the install....? Just a thin coat of oil on the rubber gasket will make a big difference......and don't over tighten.. __________________ 1970 Chev CST 2003 Harley Fatboy 1975 Chevrolet Step Van 1956 Chev Bel Air 1977 Blazer 2WD For Sale $3000.00 1978 Blazer 2WD For Sale $7000.00 1978 Silverado 2005 Monte Carlo

05-25-2003, 10:25 AM	#9
Low69CST Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Frankfort, Kentucky, USA Posts: 2,163	yeah, i always put oil on the gaskets and fill up the filter as much as possible with oil. I've got 2 other trucks I change oil in and never have this problem. __________________ '69 CST Short fleetside Lowered, 400 small block, 700R4, 4 wheel disc brakes, front sway bar & rear camaro sway bar (in progress) '87 V10 4x4 Short Fleetside Quad Suspension and Dual Tanks

05-25-2003, 12:39 PM	#10
BLAZERMAN Currently Blazerless Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. Joseph Mo. Posts: 4,828	I had the same problem on my 69, the headers come very close to the filter and hardly any room for a filter wrench, I went to a 2 qt filter [fram ph373], this brings the filter below the headers and I believe keeps the filter cooler. Attached Images __________________ 1972 C/30 133" W.B. C&C 1970 GMC 3500 157" W.B. single wheel C&C

05-25-2003, 03:08 PM	#11
Alaskan Truck'n the alcan Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Houston, AK Posts: 149	You could go to a remote filter using a relocation kit. Just my 2 cents __________________ 68 GMC 4x4 71 C20 Custom Deluxe 83 1/2 ton conversion van

05-25-2003, 03:52 PM	#12
Low69CST Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Frankfort, Kentucky, USA Posts: 2,163	Theres no way in the world I could use that 2 qt. filter. Mine is sitting on the ground. So the long filter would be trouble on my ride. I've thought about using an oil cooler, but the thought of a loose line scares me. I may try to make a heat sheild for it. __________________ '69 CST Short fleetside Lowered, 400 small block, 700R4, 4 wheel disc brakes, front sway bar & rear camaro sway bar (in progress) '87 V10 4x4 Short Fleetside Quad Suspension and Dual Tanks

05-25-2003, 04:21 PM	#13
ckhd Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: St. Johns, Arizona Posts: 2,660	It looks like those headers are touching the filter! They are very close. I think it could easily be causing your problem. It could also cause other problems too, like getting the oil too hot... doing bad things to the element in the filter, etc... I would definately get a filter relocation kit and move the filter somewhere else. __________________ my 2¢ - t.i.o.l.i. Bowen 1968 K20 fleet 1969 K10 swb fleet 1972 K10 Suburban 1972 C10 lwb step 1992 K1500 'burb 1995 K2500 'burb 1997 C1500 'burb 1999 K1500 2000 K1500 'burb Why do I own so many Suburbans?

05-26-2003, 02:34 AM	#14
SEVEND2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Menifee, Calif, USA Posts: 2,145	I got the hedman headers made for 67-72 350 engines style trucks. got lots of clearance __________________ With a 1972 Chevy Custom-10 Long bed w/350cid th350, (under-construction). Progress on truck so far (follow link): http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ad.php?t=51051 and stage 2 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ad.php?t=58132 ~ "Why couldn't you have just put the bunny back in the box?" ~

05-26-2003, 06:34 PM	#15
cruzn72 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 99	I used to have a set of full lenght headers on my 350. I never had a problem with the filter sticking. I now have a set of block hugger headers and there is a ton of clearance. __________________ http://photos.yahoo.com/cruzn72@pacbell.net



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05-28-2003, 02:21 AM	#16
ZOOMY Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: WIS Posts: 1,752	filter Bluebeard hit it right. Lube the gasket with some oil and hand tighten only !!!

05-28-2003, 09:51 AM	#17
jku72 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: cornville, maine Posts: 659	If the oil on the seal is burning off, or cooking the rubber, try using some high temp antisieze instead of oil. Just be sure not to gunk it so that it goes into the oil side. __________________ jku Cornville, Maine 68 C10 burb 42 Willys MB 46 Dodge WF-32 1.5 ton 53 & 56 Olds' 60 Cadillac 22 Dodge Brothers

05-28-2003, 10:19 AM	#18
68 Suburban Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: From Chicago, Live in Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,802	Blazerman, you need a skid plate just for your oil filter __________________ Just sitting here contemplating contemplation.

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