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CVA59 · 08-15-2010, 02:05 PM

I have a I6 in my 64 with a 3 on the tree. I am putting a 283 in it and i want to keep the original tranny. However, the clutch pivot arm is bolted to the side of the I6 block. What do i have to do to get around this so i can drop in my V8?

P_A · 08-15-2010, 02:34 PM

You will need a ball stud like this that screws into the side of your 283.

CVA59 · 08-15-2010, 02:51 PM

After looking at it again, it looks like the entire pivot assy is too far forward for where that pin screws into the 283 block. Looks like a good 6+".

TheDark1 · 08-15-2010, 05:18 PM

My 350 has 2 places to screw the pivot ball into. One is right by the bell housing and the other is about 6" forward from there by the dipstick.--Jeff

**Captainfab** · 08-16-2010, 12:53 AM

If your 283 doesn't have that forward hole or at least the boss so you can drill and tap it, you're SOL.

CVA59 · 08-16-2010, 09:48 AM

LOL, Thanks Fab. I will check it today. If it doesn't have it looks like it will be time for an automatic tranny.

TheDark1 · 08-16-2010, 10:32 AM

http://sdparts.com/details/scoggin-d...ts-center/sdcb

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Maybe you could use something like this. I think this is for an LS based engine, but you could make one similar to it I'm sure.---Jeff

TheDark1 · 08-16-2010, 10:34 AM

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This one was on a Nova site. Looks like it can be done a few different ways or styles.

CVA59 · 08-16-2010, 10:56 AM

Heck yeah, now were talking. I am guessing i will have to take something like and modify it to work. I hate the thoughts of having to drop in an automatic, LOL. Thanks for this info.

TheDark1 · 08-16-2010, 11:14 AM

It seems like I remember a bracket just for these trucks that went from the bellhousing to the motor mount pad. I don't know if I'm hallucinating or not. I was a kid when I started working on these things, so some of that info is "foggy" at best. Maybe LilRed can shed some light on this. He has a ton of these trucks. I'd do anything to keep a shifter in my truck.--Jeff

Rogue · 08-16-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CVA59

I hate the thoughts of having to drop in an automatic.

Yeah, That would be terrible!

CVA59 · 08-16-2010, 12:03 PM

Yes it would. I will contact lilred and see if he knows something

Thanks

**Captainfab** · 08-17-2010, 12:16 AM

I've seen the brackets for the rear location, and ones in between the front and rear location. But fabricating a bracket for the forward location will be a PITA since you need to find a place to brace the front of that bracket. I'm not sure where that would be is why I didn't mention it. Anyway another option to this dillema would be to go with a hydraulicly operated clutch.

padresag · 08-17-2010, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CVA59

I have a I6 in my 64 with a 3 on the tree. I am putting a 283 in it and i want to keep the original tranny. However, the clutch pivot arm is bolted to the side of the I6 block. What do i have to do to get around this so i can drop in my V8?

why not look at your 283 first before speculating what you have to do. you should find a threaded hole in which to install the proper ball stud
ron

08-15-2010, 02:05 PM	#1
CVA59 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Longview, Texas Posts: 775	Clutch Question I have a I6 in my 64 with a 3 on the tree. I am putting a 283 in it and i want to keep the original tranny. However, the clutch pivot arm is bolted to the side of the I6 block. What do i have to do to get around this so i can drop in my V8? __________________ Zack www.23t.weebly.com _________________________________ Last edited by CVA59; 08-15-2010 at 02:06 PM.

08-15-2010, 02:34 PM	#2
P_A Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: huntsville,al Posts: 75	Re: Clutch Question You will need a ball stud like this that screws into the side of your 283. __________________ Paul 1964 C10 SWB Fleetside-396/M21 4 speed 1957 Belair-283/M21 4 speed 1972 Camaro

08-15-2010, 02:51 PM	#3
CVA59 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Longview, Texas Posts: 775	Re: Clutch Question After looking at it again, it looks like the entire pivot assy is too far forward for where that pin screws into the 283 block. Looks like a good 6+". __________________ Zack www.23t.weebly.com _________________________________ Last edited by CVA59; 08-15-2010 at 03:03 PM.

08-15-2010, 05:18 PM	#4
TheDark1 Intentionally Left Blank Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Broussard, LA Posts: 355	Re: Clutch Question My 350 has 2 places to screw the pivot ball into. One is right by the bell housing and the other is about 6" forward from there by the dipstick.--Jeff __________________ 1965 C-10 Short Fleet 468/TKO 5-Speed 2004 2500HD Crew 496/Ally Blacked Out (SOLD!!) 1997 Formula WS6 2004 Jeep Wrangler (Sold) 2013 Jeep Wrangler (Sold) 2017 Jeep Wrangler (Blacked Out on 35's) 2011 GMC D-Max Dually Denali 3500HD (Sold) 2015 GMC D-Max Dually Denali 3500HD (Sold) 2018 GMC D-Max Dually Denali 3500HD (Sold) 2020 D-Max Dually Denali on 33x12.50's 1979 GMC Short Bed Step-Side 4x4 350/350 Low Miles

08-16-2010, 12:53 AM	#5
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,252	Re: Clutch Question If your 283 doesn't have that forward hole or at least the boss so you can drill and tap it, you're SOL. __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE

08-16-2010, 09:48 AM	#6
CVA59 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Longview, Texas Posts: 775	Re: Clutch Question LOL, Thanks Fab. I will check it today. If it doesn't have it looks like it will be time for an automatic tranny. __________________ Zack www.23t.weebly.com _________________________________

08-16-2010, 10:32 AM	#7
TheDark1 Intentionally Left Blank Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Broussard, LA Posts: 355	Re: Clutch Question http://sdparts.com/details/scoggin-d...ts-center/sdcb Maybe you could use something like this. I think this is for an LS based engine, but you could make one similar to it I'm sure.---Jeff __________________ 1965 C-10 Short Fleet 468/TKO 5-Speed 2004 2500HD Crew 496/Ally Blacked Out (SOLD!!) 1997 Formula WS6 2004 Jeep Wrangler (Sold) 2013 Jeep Wrangler (Sold) 2017 Jeep Wrangler (Blacked Out on 35's) 2011 GMC D-Max Dually Denali 3500HD (Sold) 2015 GMC D-Max Dually Denali 3500HD (Sold) 2018 GMC D-Max Dually Denali 3500HD (Sold) 2020 D-Max Dually Denali on 33x12.50's 1979 GMC Short Bed Step-Side 4x4 350/350 Low Miles

08-16-2010, 10:34 AM	#8
TheDark1 Intentionally Left Blank Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Broussard, LA Posts: 355	Re: Clutch Question This one was on a Nova site. Looks like it can be done a few different ways or styles. __________________ 1965 C-10 Short Fleet 468/TKO 5-Speed 2004 2500HD Crew 496/Ally Blacked Out (SOLD!!) 1997 Formula WS6 2004 Jeep Wrangler (Sold) 2013 Jeep Wrangler (Sold) 2017 Jeep Wrangler (Blacked Out on 35's) 2011 GMC D-Max Dually Denali 3500HD (Sold) 2015 GMC D-Max Dually Denali 3500HD (Sold) 2018 GMC D-Max Dually Denali 3500HD (Sold) 2020 D-Max Dually Denali on 33x12.50's 1979 GMC Short Bed Step-Side 4x4 350/350 Low Miles

08-16-2010, 10:56 AM	#9
CVA59 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Longview, Texas Posts: 775	Re: Clutch Question Heck yeah, now were talking. I am guessing i will have to take something like and modify it to work. I hate the thoughts of having to drop in an automatic, LOL. Thanks for this info. __________________ Zack www.23t.weebly.com _________________________________

08-16-2010, 11:14 AM	#10
TheDark1 Intentionally Left Blank Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Broussard, LA Posts: 355	Re: Clutch Question It seems like I remember a bracket just for these trucks that went from the bellhousing to the motor mount pad. I don't know if I'm hallucinating or not. I was a kid when I started working on these things, so some of that info is "foggy" at best. Maybe LilRed can shed some light on this. He has a ton of these trucks. I'd do anything to keep a shifter in my truck.--Jeff __________________ 1965 C-10 Short Fleet 468/TKO 5-Speed 2004 2500HD Crew 496/Ally Blacked Out (SOLD!!) 1997 Formula WS6 2004 Jeep Wrangler (Sold) 2013 Jeep Wrangler (Sold) 2017 Jeep Wrangler (Blacked Out on 35's) 2011 GMC D-Max Dually Denali 3500HD (Sold) 2015 GMC D-Max Dually Denali 3500HD (Sold) 2018 GMC D-Max Dually Denali 3500HD (Sold) 2020 D-Max Dually Denali on 33x12.50's 1979 GMC Short Bed Step-Side 4x4 350/350 Low Miles

08-16-2010, 12:03 PM	#12
CVA59 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Longview, Texas Posts: 775	Re: Clutch Question Yes it would. I will contact lilred and see if he knows something Thanks __________________ Zack www.23t.weebly.com _________________________________

08-17-2010, 12:16 AM	#13
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,252	Re: Clutch Question I've seen the brackets for the rear location, and ones in between the front and rear location. But fabricating a bracket for the forward location will be a PITA since you need to find a place to brace the front of that bracket. I'm not sure where that would be is why I didn't mention it. Anyway another option to this dillema would be to go with a hydraulicly operated clutch. __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE Last edited by Captainfab; 08-17-2010 at 12:16 AM.

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