The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1960 - 1966 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-10-2010, 07:49 AM   #1
Street Sweeper
Registered User
 
Street Sweeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 62
Big Block Springs

OK - I have been gathering parts for a big block swap in my '65 suburban. I appreciate all the information you guys offer up here - it has been invaluable. I think I know the route I'm going to take with the motor mounts, position (front to back), headers, etc.

What I'm trying to find out is if the weight of the big block will require a change in the front springs. I'm changing out my front end and adding drop spindles and disc brakes before I do the BB install. While I've got it all apart i'd like to go ahead and make the needed spring/shock upgrades if necessary. I know some of you BBC guys have bagged trucks. For the ones with spring suspensions - did you change the springs? Does it lower the truck any more with the BB and the standard springs?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Last edited by Street Sweeper; 09-10-2010 at 08:34 AM.
Street Sweeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2010, 09:55 AM   #2
steverino66
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: oklahoma
Posts: 663
Re: Big Block Springs

Here's what happened with mine:
When I got the truck a 350 had been installed with original 66 springs which probably carried a six, and the front end was lowered 2-3 inches.
I swapped the whole front crossmember with an 83 and put in the 454 and the front end height is now even with back of truck.
Those newer springs carried a 350 in the 83 truck and don't look stouter or taller than the old springs, but they are.
steverino66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 12:11 AM   #3
Captainfab
60-66 Nut

 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho
Posts: 23,252
Re: Big Block Springs

My '66 Suburban still has the original springs. I haven't measures how much lower the big block dropped it, but it does a bit. I'm sure that the later model and dropped springs have a higher spring rate, so they may not compress as much more as the original springs.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE
Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE
Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE
Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE
Captainfab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 01:12 AM   #4
NF65Fleetside
Registered User
 
NF65Fleetside's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 674
Re: Big Block Springs

I ran a 454/350 combo in my previous 65', it had a 350 in it before with cut stock coils and shocks. After the swap the front went down just a tad, nothing major. Truck was a daily driver and I didnt notice any difference in clearance and ride quality nor understeer at all. You should be fine with any new set of springs, stock height or lowered.
NF65Fleetside is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 02:31 AM   #5
rockvette
Registered User
 
rockvette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Santa Fe,Texas
Posts: 23
Re: Big Block Springs

When I installed a 502 c.u. I put a set of 1 ton springs to make up the differnce because of the extra weight.It put the truck at the proper height
__________________
1972 corvette (454-4speed)
1960 corvette (283-2-4barrel-powerglide)
1966 corvette (427-4speed)
1964 chevrolet stepside (502-6speed)
2002 corvette (LS2-6speed)
....
http://photobucket.com/rogers-64
under albums click Ineeda
rockvette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 11:07 AM   #6
Street Sweeper
Registered User
 
Street Sweeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 62
Re: Big Block Springs

Thanks for all the input. Sounds like if I go with a new (not worn out) set of springs on the front it probably won't make a huge difference in the stance (maybe just a tad lower). I'm trying to get the front end a little lower - just not too much. This gives me a good idea of what I need to do. Thanks.

While I have you BBC guys' attention - are you also running front / rear sway bars? (especially you suburban / panel BBC guys)
Street Sweeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 11:11 AM   #7
Rich 5150 69
Registered User
 
Rich 5150 69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Galt, Calif
Posts: 2,437
Re: Big Block Springs

From what I understand is that the `67` to `72 big block springs (factory or Napa replacement ) are one inch shorter than the small block springs. Something you might want to check out..
__________________
`64 C10 vortec 350/350/373 posi
`69 RS/SS 350/350/308
`37 Ford 406/350/324 traclock
`68 Dart 370/904/323 suregrip
Rich 5150 69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 11:52 AM   #8
Street Sweeper
Registered User
 
Street Sweeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 62
Re: Big Block Springs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich 5150 69 View Post
From what I understand is that the `67` to `72 big block springs (factory or Napa replacement ) are one inch shorter than the small block springs. Something you might want to check out..
Good call on the big block springs. I checked out NAPA's sight - I guess this is one of the confusing things for a rookie like me - it shows the free height to be shorter but the loaded height to be the same on each one. The design load is 500 lbs heavier for the BB springs - maybe the ride height is the same but the riding / driving characteristics would be better with the BB springs?
Street Sweeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 12:23 PM   #9
Rich 5150 69
Registered User
 
Rich 5150 69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Galt, Calif
Posts: 2,437
Re: Big Block Springs

Use those in conjunction with a 1 13/16 one ton chevy / GMC factory front sway bar, (boltup) will really roc...!
__________________
`64 C10 vortec 350/350/373 posi
`69 RS/SS 350/350/308
`37 Ford 406/350/324 traclock
`68 Dart 370/904/323 suregrip
Rich 5150 69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com