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BUXMAN66 · 06-17-2003, 01:25 AM

between a manual steering tie rod adjuster sleeve and a power steering tie rod adjuster sleeve?i'm collecting all my parts needed to replace my tie rod ends,ball joints,idler arm,roller bearings....etc.and this is the only thing that's got me baffled.the parts catalogs (brothers,lmc,paddock...etc.) have a seperate part #for the 67-68 years in our trucks if equipped w/ power steering or if equipped w/ manual steering.whats the difference? all it does is join the inner tie rod end w/ the outter tie rod end.....can't seem to make heads or tails w/ this. there is a big difference in price,though......almost $10 bucks more for a p/s application.hey when you got c/s payments you learn to do this stuff on a budget y'know? any idears?

**fine69** · 06-17-2003, 02:47 AM

I didnt know their was a difference. Go to your local Advance auto. Ask for both. Inspect them. Thats what i would do.

SEVEND2 · 06-17-2003, 04:52 AM

well i converted over to PS, from manual and the only changed i made was gearbox and pitman arm, the placed i went for info on the conversion did not mention that change

**CPNE** · 06-17-2003, 07:28 AM

In 67 and some 68's the PS was not in the gearbox but was psiton assisted to the drag link. That may be where the difference is. If you are converting to the "convential" system, then the manual steering adjusting sleeve for the tie rods will work, or anything listed for 69 or 70 will work too.

Hugger · 06-17-2003, 10:14 AM

Try this website, it will give you a complete list of Moog part numbers for any vehicle:

https://mfr.ccitriad.com/mfrcat/exts...deralMogulFull

Hugger · 06-17-2003, 10:19 AM

I don't know why the direct link did not work...Go to this page, then select Electronic Catalog:

http://www.federalmogul.com/cda/cont...7_8432,00.html

BUXMAN66 · 06-17-2003, 11:06 AM

good idea fine,thats what i'll do this afternoon b-4 i go to work.cpne you might be on to something w/ that line of thought....although i'm not converting anything over to p/s this is factory p/s setup.hugger thanks for the info!but i don't need part #'s i need specific appliction info.i just can't see any sense to buy a part for $17 bucks vs. a part for $6-7 bucks to do the same dam^ thing!i'll just head to advance auto and ask to see each part #and look for the differences.hugger, your site in the link would've worked to do this but had no pictures of the parts in question!thanks anyhow for the trouble!

**CPNE** · 06-17-2003, 11:15 AM

Most people tend to think the piston style was a 67-only thing, but I had a 68 GMC with that style steering on it. If your 68 has a convential PS box and pitman arm, then the part for 69-70 should work. Ask them if the cheaper part is also listed as replacement for 69-70 trucks with PS. If it is, it should work for you.

BUXMAN66 · 06-17-2003, 11:22 AM

it's amazing the kinds of little shi% you learn on here! thanks again for the info.!!

BUXMAN66 · 06-18-2003, 01:15 AM

well, found the answer to the tie rod adj. sleeve question.....p/s adj.sleeves are 6.500" long where the manual steering sleeves are 6.000" long.....i think this goes back to the reply by cpne in that this would be for a integral(or power assist) p/s unit.i ended up getting the 69-70 style p/s tie rod adj. sleeves. 'nother little tidbit of info. to store in the memory bank!

**CPNE** · 06-18-2003, 09:16 AM

good to know for guys with 67 or 68's and the conventional PS setup

06-17-2003, 01:25 AM	#1
BUXMAN66 go bucks! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MIAMISBURG OHIO USA Posts: 803	anyone know the difference..... between a manual steering tie rod adjuster sleeve and a power steering tie rod adjuster sleeve?i'm collecting all my parts needed to replace my tie rod ends,ball joints,idler arm,roller bearings....etc.and this is the only thing that's got me baffled.the parts catalogs (brothers,lmc,paddock...etc.) have a seperate part #for the 67-68 years in our trucks if equipped w/ power steering or if equipped w/ manual steering.whats the difference? all it does is join the inner tie rod end w/ the outter tie rod end.....can't seem to make heads or tails w/ this. there is a big difference in price,though......almost $10 bucks more for a p/s application.hey when you got c/s payments you learn to do this stuff on a budget y'know? any idears? __________________ '68 swb 1/2t 350/350th '86 lngbd 3/4 TON parts getter '49 gmc 1/2 t 5 window 350/350th '96 gmc sonoma sle ext-cab. hey it's a 4cyl. 5 spd and good on gas y'know?

06-17-2003, 04:52 AM	#3
SEVEND2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Menifee, Calif, USA Posts: 2,145	well i converted over to PS, from manual and the only changed i made was gearbox and pitman arm, the placed i went for info on the conversion did not mention that change __________________ With a 1972 Chevy Custom-10 Long bed w/350cid th350, (under-construction). Progress on truck so far (follow link): http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ad.php?t=51051 and stage 2 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ad.php?t=58132 ~ "Why couldn't you have just put the bunny back in the box?" ~

06-17-2003, 07:28 AM	#4
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,662	In 67 and some 68's the PS was not in the gearbox but was psiton assisted to the drag link. That may be where the difference is. If you are converting to the "convential" system, then the manual steering adjusting sleeve for the tie rods will work, or anything listed for 69 or 70 will work too. __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

06-17-2003, 10:14 AM	#5
Hugger Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 137	Try this website, it will give you a complete list of Moog part numbers for any vehicle: https://mfr.ccitriad.com/mfrcat/exts...deralMogulFull __________________ 72 LWB - Hugger Orange 350/350 3.73 Next; 335hp GM Crate

06-17-2003, 10:19 AM	#6
Hugger Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 137	I don't know why the direct link did not work...Go to this page, then select Electronic Catalog: http://www.federalmogul.com/cda/cont...7_8432,00.html __________________ 72 LWB - Hugger Orange 350/350 3.73 Next; 335hp GM Crate

06-17-2003, 02:47 AM	#2
fine69 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Urbana,Ohio,USA Posts: 4,618	I didnt know their was a difference. Go to your local Advance auto. Ask for both. Inspect them. Thats what i would do.

06-17-2003, 11:06 AM	#7
BUXMAN66 go bucks! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MIAMISBURG OHIO USA Posts: 803	good idea fine,thats what i'll do this afternoon b-4 i go to work.cpne you might be on to something w/ that line of thought....although i'm not converting anything over to p/s this is factory p/s setup.hugger thanks for the info!but i don't need part #'s i need specific appliction info.i just can't see any sense to buy a part for $17 bucks vs. a part for $6-7 bucks to do the same dam^ thing!i'll just head to advance auto and ask to see each part #and look for the differences.hugger, your site in the link would've worked to do this but had no pictures of the parts in question!thanks anyhow for the trouble! __________________ '68 swb 1/2t 350/350th '86 lngbd 3/4 TON parts getter '49 gmc 1/2 t 5 window 350/350th '96 gmc sonoma sle ext-cab. hey it's a 4cyl. 5 spd and good on gas y'know?

06-17-2003, 11:15 AM	#8
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,662	Most people tend to think the piston style was a 67-only thing, but I had a 68 GMC with that style steering on it. If your 68 has a convential PS box and pitman arm, then the part for 69-70 should work. Ask them if the cheaper part is also listed as replacement for 69-70 trucks with PS. If it is, it should work for you. __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

06-17-2003, 11:22 AM	#9
BUXMAN66 go bucks! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MIAMISBURG OHIO USA Posts: 803	it's amazing the kinds of little shi% you learn on here! thanks again for the info.!! __________________ '68 swb 1/2t 350/350th '86 lngbd 3/4 TON parts getter '49 gmc 1/2 t 5 window 350/350th '96 gmc sonoma sle ext-cab. hey it's a 4cyl. 5 spd and good on gas y'know?

06-18-2003, 01:15 AM	#10
BUXMAN66 go bucks! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MIAMISBURG OHIO USA Posts: 803	well, found the answer to the tie rod adj. sleeve question.....p/s adj.sleeves are 6.500" long where the manual steering sleeves are 6.000" long.....i think this goes back to the reply by cpne in that this would be for a integral(or power assist) p/s unit.i ended up getting the 69-70 style p/s tie rod adj. sleeves. 'nother little tidbit of info. to store in the memory bank! __________________ '68 swb 1/2t 350/350th '86 lngbd 3/4 TON parts getter '49 gmc 1/2 t 5 window 350/350th '96 gmc sonoma sle ext-cab. hey it's a 4cyl. 5 spd and good on gas y'know?

06-18-2003, 09:16 AM	#11
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,662	good to know for guys with 67 or 68's and the conventional PS setup __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

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