Converting to Projector lenses & HID bulbs

[BLE 'BURBAN]

Well After a long struggle over the cost and trying to figure out if it would be worth it, I finally took the plunge last friday and ordered up a set of HID bulbs that are compatible with an H4 (9003) style bulb and a set of projector lenses. Hoping to get them by this weekend so I can get them installed and do a write up here.
These are the bulbs I ordered.....
v-leds.com H4 9003 HB2 DIGITAL BALLAST 5000K lights
And the lenses

Bear with me until then.
Dave

[1BadSS]

Sorry to break it to you, but they aren't HID bulbs without a ballast. They're only blue coated glass filaments.

[BLE 'BURBAN]

Originally Posted by 1BadSS

Sorry to break it to you, but they aren't HID bulbs without a ballast. They're only blue coated glass filaments.

Yeah I know. And I'm going to be pitching those blue bulbs when they arrive. Trust me I've done my research.

[1BadSS]

Any plans to upgrade your headlight wiring harness?

[BLE 'BURBAN]

Already done that a few years ago when I started running 90w/130w bulbs in my hella housings. Installed 2 relays, One on the low beam circuit and one on the highbeam circuit.
And the HID BULB KIT is supposed to be all plug and play (We'll see about that)

[spenny]

I dunno about those Ebay projectors... I doubt they'll be much better then a standard reflector lens.

DDMtuning has cheap and fairly solid HID kits, (I've used two sets, never had a problem) but if I was going for a cheap 'retrofit' I would have gone with something like this.

IMHO projectors dont help much anyway. I've been blinded by way more cars with factory HID then cars with plug-and-plays in reflectors.

[rblcori7]

i will deff be keeping an eye on this i bought a set of euro housings from LMC and put a hid kit in them im very curious what the projectors look like

[rblcori7]

I bought a cheap old ebay HID kit from ebay and ive been running it in my car for 4 years now... i payed 38 or 40 bucks shipped for just the HID kit if you want the ebay store i got it off of let me know and ill send it to any one who wants it... check out my truck page to see pictures of what they look like in the truck... they are 6000K

[BLE 'BURBAN]

Well parts made it here yesterday in the mail. I'm heading down to work to get them installed and take a few before and after pics as well for ya.

[babyJay]

Can't wait to see the updates!

[qu1cks1lver56]

Originally Posted by spenny

I dunno about those Ebay projectors... I doubt they'll be much better then a standard reflector lens.

DDMtuning has cheap and fairly solid HID kits, (I've used two sets, never had a problem) but if I was going for a cheap 'retrofit' I would have gone with something like this.

IMHO projectors dont help much anyway. I've been blinded by way more cars with factory HID then cars with plug-and-plays in reflectors.

I've owned 3 sets of ddm tuning HID's and install 2 other sets, all still kicking today. Great stuff for the price.

And those projectors, aren't really projectors, it's a piece of glass infront of the bulb, I had some, ended up getting a refund. But they look cool lol.

[BLE 'BURBAN]

Well I just got back home after doing the install down at work
So here's what I was running originally, HELLA LENSES WITH 100W LOWBEAM - 130W HIGH BEAM BULBS WITH RELAYS INSTALLED ON BOTH CIRCUITS TO PREVENT WIRING MELTDOWNS
the drawback.... the bulbs last about a year and the lenses about 9 months because of the high heat of the bulbs and then the frigid rain and water puddles splashing on the glass and you get this...



And these are the bulbs i was running



Their packaging...



And here is the H.I.D. kit. All plug-and-play. Only had to hook up one power lead to the battery and 2 ground leads-1 at each light.


The "MOVING" H.I.D. BULBS and the supplied adaptors to fit them into the H4 housings. The bases of the lamp have an electromagnet in them that pulls the bulb back about 1/4 of an inch to realign them for the high beam circuit. The small connector at the far right of the pic is for the electromagnet. The bulbs are 5000 kelvin rating and they produce a pure white light. They offer them in a 6000 kelvin blue tint and a 6000 kelvin purple tint as well.


These are the digital controllers and ignitors I found a nice flat spot on the back side of the core support for them to mount to with the supplied double sided foam tape. Cleaned the surface with brake cleaner and a shop towel the stuck'em on.



The plug-and-play harness. The 3 pronged connector plugs into the factory headlight socket on one side. The other side is not needed so I just wrapped it up in electrical tape and tucked it away.



I ran the wiring to the other side between the radiator and the core support then mounted the passengers side.

The "PROJECTOR" lamps are in the back ground of the next pic. Notice the black background of the lamps. Part of the reason I got them so that the whole grille area looks black in the daylight. More chrome bites the dust...for now.I'll have to wait and see how these work out later tonight


Installed the H4 adaptors into the lenses then the dust boots lastly is the bulbs themselves into the housings They install as easily as an 1156 bulb does in your back up light socket.






Now all I gotta do is plug'em in and button it all back up.



That's it for now had to get going and didn't get any more pics of the finished install yet but will tomorrow afternoon for y'all.

[kikkegek]

he man!
really nice write up!

I 'll be following the results of your build.

I am doing some research of myself too. I currrently run Bi-Xenon bulbs in regular clear lens Euro headlights E-marked.

This is the light patters on a wall. I made pictures with halogeen and with Xenon and you can see the difference:


left headlight:


right headlight


as you can see, there is still a pretty good cut off visible, but there is so much more light, that I can imagine I am blinding drivers in the opposite lanes. Although it is not to bad.

A projector like the FX-R (I am considering a retrofit using this projector) produces a light beam like this:


SO!
I am very, very curious, what light beam your units will produce...

looking forward to your pics!

[qu1cks1lver56]

pretty much the same setup i have in my housings. i LOVE the ones with the actuators, always trips people out lol.

[Pop's C-10]

can't wait to see tha night pics

[BLE 'BURBAN]

Well I screwed up.... Bought the blacked out lenses thinking they were black chrome but they ain't. They don't reflect squat. almost as bad as driving with the lights off. I'll have to pick up another set of the HELLA lenses this week and swap them out then I'll be back in business. Oh well......Defication Happens... Live & learn

[qu1cks1lver56]

That's WITH HID's? Wow they don't reflect much of anything.

[muthstryker]

You might not like the light output with these, I did the same thing awhile ago. The way the light gets broken up is absolutely terrible, it was so bad I didn't drive the truck at night because I was embarrassed by it.

I ended up throwing everything a way and getting the lights that that LMC sells, they are the housings and use a 9007 h5? Bulb I think.. Cant remember exactly, Anyways its a square 4x6 light that you can still change the bulbs out of. I havent done it yet but you can upgrade the bulbs with some PIAA Extreme white bulbs and still have a look similar to HIDs and its a very nice upgrade and well worth the money.

[BLE 'BURBAN]

I'm gonna wait for the replacment hella's. If'n my originals hadn't been all cracked up I would've used them.

[qu1cks1lver56]

I have some Pilot 4x6 clear headlight housings. Very nice for the money, take a h4 bulb. But they're glass and I have 2 cracked now from rocks, etc on the highway.

[kikkegek]

he Ble'Burban....man, thats too bad! I was really hoping for some good pics. Too bad the lights are bad...

A guy over at LS1T forum did great 4x6 retrofits. HE got me thinking of maybe doing my own:
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/appear...-write-up.html

The light output of these babys is incredible.

And here is a list of all the retro's
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/7014488-post5.html

and here's a HID planet retrofit list. I believe there is a Jeep in there with the same size headlights as yours.
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...highlight=jeep

here it is:
http://jeep-xj.info/HowtoBiXenonProjectors.htm

[rblcori7]

Originally Posted by muthstryker

You might not like the light output with these, I did the same thing awhile ago. The way the light gets broken up is absolutely terrible, it was so bad I didn't drive the truck at night because I was embarrassed by it.

I ended up throwing everything a way and getting the lights that that LMC sells, they are the housings and use a 9007 h5? Bulb I think.. Cant remember exactly, Anyways its a square 4x6 light that you can still change the bulbs out of. I havent done it yet but you can upgrade the bulbs with some PIAA Extreme white bulbs and still have a look similar to HIDs and its a very nice upgrade and well worth the money.

that is exactly what i did... ive got the LMC housing and if im not mistaken you are correct they are 9007 H5 bulbs... i also put 6000K HID's in then check em out I think they turned damn nice... i can see forever with them lol

[BLE 'BURBAN]

Originally Posted by kikkegek

he Ble'Burban....man, thats too bad! I was really hoping for some good pics. Too bad the lights are bad...

A guy over at LS1T forum did great 4x6 retrofits. HE got me thinking of maybe doing my own:
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/appear...-write-up.html

The light output of these babys is incredible.

Don't get me wrong here I'm staying with the HID's just changing out the lenses going back to the HELLA lenses and going to be offering up these "PROJECTORS" (what a joke) to some one for what I paid for them. $32.00 for the pair.

[Pop's C-10]

Originally Posted by rblcori7

that is exactly what i did... ive got the LMC housing and if im not mistaken you are correct they are 9007 H5 bulbs... i also put 6000K HID's in then check em out I think they turned damn nice... i can see forever with them lol

those look slick

[SeanPaintsFlames]

I have those black housing headlights for my '80 that is completely blacked out. That sucks that they weren't bright at all. I wonder if you were to take the lens off and spray the insides gloss black instead of the black plastic if you would get a better light projection. Were your lenses all foggy as well? Mine are nasty. My truck is still in the build-up stage, so I've not a clue what they'd look like.

The jeep lights look really good- like the same housings but silver?