'66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

[Frizzle Fry]

Originally Posted by VA72C10

Awesome! Looks fantastic!

I'm sure you're excited!

I am too because it means you're closer to working on the tahoe

I was looking through my Tahoe thread the other day ...man I want to get that thing back on the road. must ...stay ...focused

Originally Posted by watahyahknow

i think the stance is good as it is , the wheel sits nicely centered in the arch and it adds a bit to the sleeper look .
you can drive it over speedbumps comfortably without scraping the oilpan/exaust/floor
couldnt you mount some sort of screwrings like those raceshocks to lower it when needed ?

I might agree with you on the stance. Sits about perfect. The good news is if it does end up 0.5"-1" lower my ground clearance will still be adequate since I tucked everything up in the framerails.

Yes, I could go with adjustable aftermarket coilovers and may when $$$ allows. That's the beauty of adapting the car to accept all those Honda bolt-ons; the whole S2000 aftermarket is available ...big brake kits, suspension, drivetrain, etc.

Originally Posted by 67cheby

this is just going to be the COOLEST car EVER !!

Thanks man. I think it stands out because it's so understated ...like it's not even trying, yet it has such great character you can't ignore it. That's what makes it cool in my eyes. Performance to back it up is just a grin enhancement feature.

Originally Posted by panelrodder81

The oddity of this project by its self is the coolest part but combined with the craftsmanship, I'm completely astonished with it. I wish I had an 1/8th of the skills you have then my panel truck would have much more stuff done to it! Without a doubt the coolest car of its kind that I've ever seen!

Read an editorial in a recent mag, might have been Hotrod, about moving into oddball brands/models for custom projects. The author seemed to be taking some flack over it, but seeing this makes me want to do one myself!

-Panelrodder

For me it's about seeing the potential in something that may not be easily recognized by the majority. I am far more drawn to oddball stuff than the standard car-show fare. I appreciate tri-5 chevys and first gen camaros or mustangs, but give me the "what's that?" factor any day. Especially if you can combine "what's that?" with just the right aesthetic and performance elements.

Originally Posted by thor

Looks great! As for spring rates, I say get some break-in miles on that thing and carve some corners before purchasing softer springs. You may enjoy slicing left and right too much to go to mushier springs.

In my DD 350Z, I sometimes wish I had softer springs when I am just cruising. But when I have a burr under my saddle, I love the stiff springs in the corners. Truthfully, I enjoy driving the perfectly executed corner more than pedalling the car straight ahead, as much fun as that is.

Oh yeah this thing was built with corner carving in mind. But, I can tell you these springs are way too heavy for two reasons.

1. The car is 1/3 lighter than the S2000
2. The shorter IFS arms and 1/1 ratio of the solid axle rear vs. IRS effectively deceases the suspension's leverage over the spings.

Originally Posted by watahyahknow

the springs still might settle a bit too

The suspension will settle, true. I will likely buy lighter springs of the same height, not shorter/lowered. Probably end up with adjustable coilovers sooner or later

Originally Posted by thirdstreettito

You gotta finish! C'mon buddy!

Thanks man! That's what I need!!!

Originally Posted by 68 Quad C10

just ran into this build.... that is AWSOME can't wait to see it done

Originally Posted by propanemudtruck

Once again, props to frizzlefry on this build, hope to see it in more articles and mags!

I just hope to see it terrorizing the track/AX/Drift events this summer

[67ChevyRedneck]

Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

I was looking through my Tahoe thread the other day ...man I want to get that thing back on the road. must ...stay ...focused

Flat out awesome. Now if you could just figure out how to get rid of that honda crap and fit an LS7...

just kidding, can't wait for the first drive video!

[thor]

DD Nissan 350Z is 10.6 lbs/hp. Sad days compared to the rest of the list. Thankfully, it's still faster than many peeps out there, especially considering all the mouth breathers. How do they ever get driver's licenses. Ha, ha, ha.

Since math is fun, I decided to run some calcs for my 72 blazer complete with 307. I got conflicting info on the amount of hp these stroked 283s made. Depending on whether the 307 made 200hp, 130hp, or 115hp, that puts the weight to power (using 3677 lbs) at 18.4 lbs/hp, 28.3 lbs/hp, or 32.0 lbs/hp respectively. The days are getting more sad.

But not to be outdone, I calc'd my first car, the glorious 1980 Dodge Aspen with 225 slant six and 1 bbl carb. It weighed 3200 lbs and made a whopping 90 hp. Side note: the engine bay warned that my lil engine did not make enough power to be equipped with AC (min. 100 hp). Anwyho, this beast of a car calcs at 35.6 lbs/hp. But with a lil weight transfer (pitch it hard in the corners) and wet pavement, I was able to get the 245 to screech for a bit, thx to the peg leg. Good times. And for those not sure what the Aspen looks like, all I heard from everyone was "Nice Nova!"

OK, sorry about the detour.

[Frizzle Fry]

Originally Posted by thor

Sorry 'bout that. I made the assumption that Super meant super-fast which meant super-engine which meant 1.7L vs 1.6L (though this is all brand new to me outside of the Sunbeam Tiger being the birth car of the Shelby Cobra). I also used wiki for the curb weights too which I'm sure was my ultimate undoing.

Anywho, all this to say that my original intention of posting was to show how awesome this swap is, not simply for the cool factor, but for the performance factor.

Can't wait for the next update.
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No prob mayn! I dig the fact that you 'get it!' Super Minx's were kinda fugly (not in a good way like this one)

Originally Posted by PanelDeland

The real "Grin Factor" will be when you first blow the doors off of a S2000.
I can barely believe the forethought and craftsmanship that went into this build.It just amazes me that you also did it while keeping so much of the original intact and stock looking.

Thanks brotha! It will be interesting to see how I do off the line with 3.73 gears instead of the 4.10 in the S2k. I'm banking on my power/weight advantage. But there's always gear swaps and forced induction if all else fails

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

Flat out awesome. Now if you could just figure out how to get rid of that honda crap and fit an LS7...

just kidding, can't wait for the first drive video!

I could have done a ls1/2/3 cheaper than this But then everyone puts those in everything ...plus I like the corner-carvation aspect of the zippy alloy 4banger.

Originally Posted by dammitmitchell

i love blowing doors off cars with my 6500lb truck..
i had my doors blown off in the STi a few years ago by an f350... really opened my eyes..

getting my camaros doors blown off by a SUNBEAM...
i would never tell a soul it happened...
i would lie..
lie
and lie some more claiming it's my buddy driving with a throttle restriction..

It would require a long explanation no doubt

Originally Posted by watahyahknow

whell if it doesnt work this way theres allways the turbo you could add in the mix
makes it even better when you pass someone with that wasegatesound on full boost comming from under the car

I know turbo is very popular and effective on these but I've read up on S/C's a bit. Theres roots blowers made for these that give instant torque and plenty of top-end. I think I'd go that route so I don't have to mess with my exhaust.

Originally Posted by thor

DD Nissan 350Z is 10.6 lbs/hp. Sad days compared to the rest of the list. Thankfully, it's still faster than many peeps out there, especially considering all the mouth breathers. How do they ever get driver's licenses. Ha, ha, ha.

Since math is fun, I decided to run some calcs for my 72 blazer complete with 307. I got conflicting info on the amount of hp these stroked 283s made. Depending on whether the 307 made 200hp, 130hp, or 115hp, that puts the weight to power (using 3677 lbs) at 18.4 lbs/hp, 28.3 lbs/hp, or 32.0 lbs/hp respectively. The days are getting more sad.

But not to be outdone, I calc'd my first car, the glorious 1980 Dodge Aspen with 225 slant six and 1 bbl carb. It weighed 3200 lbs and made a whopping 90 hp. Side note: the engine bay warned that my lil engine did not make enough power to be equipped with AC (min. 100 hp). Anwyho, this beast of a car calcs at 35.6 lbs/hp. But with a lil weight transfer (pitch it hard in the corners) and wet pavement, I was able to get the 245 to screech for a bit, thx to the peg leg. Good times. And for those not sure what the Aspen looks like, all I heard from everyone was "Nice Nova!"

OK, sorry about the detour.

I like the 350Z. I'm sure the power adder market is a-plenty for it too.
Aspen