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Re: S10 Frame Swap Blueprints
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Re: S10 Frame Swap Blueprints
I agree , If I were thinking about doing the s10 swap I mght buy the drawings just to see what i am up against. it would save a lot of time measuring. Frame swaps can be a lot of work just measureing.
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Re: S10 Frame Swap Blueprints
Hey guys, i have another truck that i am building at the present time. I have plans to post a few pictures sometime soon. I have made it a 2 year project now that i am back to full time shift work. I have been on it about 6 months and i fill way ahead of schedule. I appreciate all of you who can realise the effort it takes to refine such a task. I have made a couple changes after building the seafoam green 1948 truck. Most of that just being height and width changes just to get a little different look. I think this truck will be a little more capable of serious power driving with a hopped up LS2 with 550 street legal drive anywhere horsepower. I will try to post a few pics of the project sometime soon. I just finished fitting all the sheet metal and about ready for another last time disasemble and paint........whewww.
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Re: S10 Frame Swap Blueprints
guess we should stop talking about this...just found out the guy is an active member on this site
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Re: S10 Frame Swap Blueprints
Any clues where he compiled the information from then?
![]() Would be interesting to find out what's on the CD and from which "ideas" he's taken his information from. We all post it for free as a learning experience to others with the same ambitions, but I'd be annoyed if someone was pulling a profit from it! Information is free on sites like this and should always remain so. If he's compiled the info from his own experiences and not those posted by our brothers and sisters here, then so be it... but then again... as an active member we'd kinda hope that info is shared from all. Just my 2 cents... Cheers, Ted.
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They may not have invented the orange, but they are doing a great marketing plan. I never see one of them as a sponsoring member yet everyone talks about them both. How many dozens of posts of "which kit is better" do we see even on this site? Even this thread has gone from a CD of "blueprints" to AD/EZ talk! |
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Hold on . . . excuse me while I climb on my soap box. Ok – made it. It sucks getting old; my knees creek just getting on a metaphorical rant. I love this place. I can’t tell you the joy I get when people see the work I’ve done on my truck, and they think I came up with it all on my own. To the people I know (when they ask) I tell them where the ideas came from and I occasionally give credit, but for most that see my work, I just let them believe I’m as good as most of you here on this board; that I’m as talented as the guys I aspire to be like here and whose ideas I’ve unabashedly stolen, copied, and derived. In turn, I hope what I’ve done will be stolen, copied, and derived in the way that good ideas are spread. If a guy wants to make a buck off me then I guess that’s ok. It’s not the first time, nor will it be the last. Maybe his kids are tired of Mac N Cheese every night. If there isn’t a perceived market, his plans wouldn’t sell. Welcome to capitalism, at least 39 times worth. I’ll end with this: I’m not smart enough, nor do I have the generational advice that could teach me what I’ve learned here through each one of you guy’s generosity. That is the take home message. Keep sharing, stealing, and building awesome trucks. In the end, who cares how many brush strokes are in the Mona Lisa.
Please disagree with me. I'm in one of those moods today. Jeff P.S. I'm not "The Guy" Last edited by jeffs51chevy; 04-27-2011 at 10:23 AM. Reason: Just clearing the air |
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Re: S10 Frame Swap Blueprints
Jeff, I disagree with you.
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Re: S10 Frame Swap Blueprints
I don't think that the issue was that you were offering the plans up for sale but the fact that there seemed to be so many people willing to fork over a pocket full of cash for something that can readily be found on the net in a number of places. The end results may or may not be as "clean" as your concept but from following Tim's build and checking his plans for the mounts his way is pretty clean in my book.
If your plans help people with somewhat limited experience or skills build a decent and safe truck that alone is more than worth the price of the plans. And maybe we are just amazed at your marketing skills. I'm not a fan of pulling the sheet metal off a good solid original frame and swapping it over to the S10 frame but I do have a spare cab sitting on a pallet in the shed that would be a great candidate for an S-10 frame job. The trouble locally is that the dead S10 trucks that were sitting around with a pile of trash in the back five years ago have either been hauled for scrap or the people who have them think they are worth more than a running driving truck because "all them hot rodders are using them". |
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Re: S10 Frame Swap Blueprints
I would have to say i have never really spent much time looking at other builds on here, but there are many talented men on here that have common interests and have built some fine trucks. I would in no way dismantle a good driver to make this swap,agreeing with you. But from my exsperience in putting 4 AD trucks together with the s-10 chassis i will say they make one heck of a truck. You are also right about the s-10 beaters, they have increased in price latley. I stock piled 3 for back up and allways keep my eyes open for another. I would also like to say that there is probably a lot of info on the web on these swaps, but not to much of what i would call good numbers and details. So thats why i decided to spend hours putting this together with all the measurments and picture details. The firewall template that comes with it has saved guys hours of time. I am currently building a 1950 rust free nebraska truck. I completly mounted the body, sandblasted the s-10 doner frame and have it rolling with brakes and steering in 3 days using my own blueprint as the guide. i have some pictures on ls1 tech of my just finished 1948 ls1 5speed truck.......i will try to get a few on here.......hope to see you on the road.
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Re: S10 Frame Swap Blueprints
rog540wag, I would love to see some pictures of the ones you did. Not to steal any ideas just because I would like to see them. I have done one and am working on another one and will be doing one for myself sometime way down the road. I know what/how it works for me on doing them. I used the mount drawing from on here (thank you) but used the material sizes of what I had. Plus I make my floor structure out of box tube so it is different than the stock floor. Everything else I make too like the radiator supports and bed mounts. It seems to work out really well.
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I think many of the posters are wondering why people aren't motivated to find some this information on their own, there could be alot of reasons for that but bottom line is not everybody knows/likes/enjoys internet forums or google searches. Last weekend we visited a wealthy friend who just retired and has bought a shop and loaded it with classics. He tinkers, builds, and has some cool cars but never spends time on the internet. He is smart enough to find anything on the internet but he chooses to do things the old fashioned way. He's searching for a frame for his '64 el camino but will do it by word-of-mouth, newspaper classifieds, country cruising, etc. That's just his style. He's the kind of guy that would (and could without blinking) pay for a set of AD truck on S-10 frame plans. Even if I printed every thread ever written about it and delievered it to him, he still would. There is something to this mentality though...I was telling Grant Peterson (Classic Trucks) about this forum when I met him at a show and he laughed and said "Yeah, I don't do the internet because it sucks you in and leaves no time to work on my trucks". So true! Remember we're a smally community with common interests...if you like AD trucks on S-10 frames then you're ok in my book and welcome to the board!
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Re: S10 Frame Swap Blueprints
LEEVON well said.
rog540wag, That would be great. I will check out the other site in the mean time. Thank you. Shannon
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Re: S10 Frame Swap Blueprints
Wow, that's a great looking truck. If I hadn't already started my S-10 swap I'd buy your plans.
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Re: S10 Frame Swap Blueprints
Thanks for the understanding response. I created another thread and included a few more pictures. I am no computer whiz and am not sure how to url upload, so i am limited....looks like you have some awsome projects going on....thanks again.
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Re: S10 Frame Swap Blueprints
Anyone who has worked on or built an old vehicle know their is no magic wand to wave at it. Here is a guy that has put together a group of his ideas and offering them to anyone that has an interest for a price and i feel if he wasn't giving folks what they needed their monies wouldn't be exchanged. Don't treat the guy like a meth dealer.
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Re: S10 Frame Swap Blueprints
Well said, he is providing a service, don't buy if you don't need to. i bet that he went through a lot of trial and error before he got it right. I haven't started my swap but I plan too. I have a 47 long bed that has been sitting for 10 years.
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