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GMCjunkie · 12-24-2003, 07:17 AM

Need to get "stuff"...(dirt and mabey some rust ??) out of the INSIDE of these doors so that I can por15 them. How do I get the crap out and get the POR15 in with out (gulp) cutting an access hole?? Any and ALL help will be appreciated!!

Thanks,
junk

JimKshortstep4x4 · 12-24-2003, 08:56 AM

I would consider cutting access holes and then make a cover that could be screwed back into place. To hide the access holes I would have some carpeted panels made up to match the interior carpet and then attach those.

We had our upholstery guy make the carpeted panels up using a
good grade of boarding and attached matching carpet. We are using chrome trim screws with trim washers for attaching the carpet boards to the doors.

I am not sure if it is original or not but all of the doors on my son's Burb had carpet on the lower part of the doors.

Jim

BtnkBndt · 12-24-2003, 09:11 AM

You could also cut/drill holes on the hinged ends and get some plastic grommets to cover them. Wouldn't show so bad in that area if you didn't want to weld them back. Just a thought.

tom hand · 12-24-2003, 10:00 AM

Here's what I did to my doors....might not be the answer you wanted, but I believe this is the best cure....that bottom seam on the door skin just catches too much moisture over the years and will cause problems down the road. I cut off the bottom 6 inches of the door skin. This gives you plenty of access to the inside of the door...allows you to clean it out and por 15. Then weld on a new skin. While the don't make a patch panel for the barn doors, a good welder could easily use one for the truck doors...it really solves the problem. And keep in mind these doors were really in good shape....there was just no way I was going to put a good paint job on them when I could see all that crap down there waiting to cause problems later.

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krue · 12-24-2003, 10:13 AM

You could try blowing it out with air. I would take a long time to get it all, but short of cutting it's all I can think of.

BtnkBndt · 12-24-2003, 10:19 AM

Yep, Tom is right. Thats the only right way to do it. If you,re gonna paint em, why not do it right.

EJ · 12-24-2003, 01:50 PM

If they were my doors I would just drill a hole in the bottom of the doors shake or vacuum the rust flakes out then get a hand pump sprayer like walmart sells and use rust converter its real thin and sprays nicely. You should be able to soak the inside of the doors and with a hole on the bottom it might make a nice drain if your window seals ever leak.
I never used POR 15 if its thin im sure it would work great or use something like this http://www.gemplers.com/a/shop/produ...&GEN9=0&T1=RCQ

GMCjunkie · 12-24-2003, 05:13 PM

Thanks yall for your replies!! Tom, I wish I could do it that way. But I definetly dont have the means to do that. I was pretty sure I wouldnt get out of it with out cutting someting. Ill get it tho. Thanks again!!!!
junk

PanelDeland · 12-24-2003, 05:31 PM

Jodie, if you do the hole in the bottom of the door, first find some body plugs.That way you can use the right size drill bit to make the holes and they will be sealed.If the windows are out it might be possible to clean the inside with some sort of media blasting thru the holes.I would also do as suggested and use a rust converter.

**old Rusty C10** · 12-24-2003, 05:44 PM

i would make a small hole in the cetner of the inner door and try using one of the vacuum attachemnts for computers etc inside the door to get out what wouldnt fall out seal it and then cover the door with carpet like somoene else suggested

12-24-2003, 07:17 AM	#1
GMCjunkie Dude...I'm a CHICK Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lakeland Georgia Posts: 6,192	??? About my barn doors.. Need to get "stuff"...(dirt and mabey some rust ??) out of the INSIDE of these doors so that I can por15 them. How do I get the crap out and get the POR15 in with out (gulp) cutting an access hole?? Any and ALL help will be appreciated!! Thanks, junk Attached Images __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~* "The unexamined life is not worth living" -Socrates ~~~~~~~~~~~~~* '71 GMC Suburban 4x4

12-24-2003, 09:11 AM	#3
BtnkBndt Pennyless Fool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Forney,Tx Posts: 439	You could also cut/drill holes on the hinged ends and get some plastic grommets to cover them. Wouldn't show so bad in that area if you didn't want to weld them back. Just a thought. __________________ "Who owns this car with the peace sign, the mag wheels, and four on the floor?" 67 Short Step 283/TH400/4.11

12-24-2003, 10:00 AM	#4
tom hand CCRider Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Olive Branch,MS,USA Posts: 2,232	Here's what I did to my doors....might not be the answer you wanted, but I believe this is the best cure....that bottom seam on the door skin just catches too much moisture over the years and will cause problems down the road. I cut off the bottom 6 inches of the door skin. This gives you plenty of access to the inside of the door...allows you to clean it out and por 15. Then weld on a new skin. While the don't make a patch panel for the barn doors, a good welder could easily use one for the truck doors...it really solves the problem. And keep in mind these doors were really in good shape....there was just no way I was going to put a good paint job on them when I could see all that crap down there waiting to cause problems later. Attached Images __________________ 72 GMC Sierra SWB almost finished---- 84 Softail Olive Branch MS Last edited by tom hand; 12-24-2003 at 10:15 AM.

12-24-2003, 10:01 AM	#5
tom hand CCRider Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Olive Branch,MS,USA Posts: 2,232	2 Attached Images __________________ 72 GMC Sierra SWB almost finished---- 84 Softail Olive Branch MS

12-24-2003, 10:02 AM	#6
tom hand CCRider Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Olive Branch,MS,USA Posts: 2,232	3 Attached Images __________________ 72 GMC Sierra SWB almost finished---- 84 Softail Olive Branch MS

12-24-2003, 08:56 AM	#2
JimKshortstep4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Muskegon,MI,USA Posts: 6,026	I would consider cutting access holes and then make a cover that could be screwed back into place. To hide the access holes I would have some carpeted panels made up to match the interior carpet and then attach those. We had our upholstery guy make the carpeted panels up using a good grade of boarding and attached matching carpet. We are using chrome trim screws with trim washers for attaching the carpet boards to the doors. I am not sure if it is original or not but all of the doors on my son's Burb had carpet on the lower part of the doors. Jim

12-24-2003, 10:02 AM	#7
tom hand CCRider Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Olive Branch,MS,USA Posts: 2,232	4 Attached Images __________________ 72 GMC Sierra SWB almost finished---- 84 Softail Olive Branch MS

12-24-2003, 10:13 AM	#8
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	You could try blowing it out with air. I would take a long time to get it all, but short of cutting it's all I can think of. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

12-24-2003, 10:19 AM	#9
BtnkBndt Pennyless Fool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Forney,Tx Posts: 439	Yep, Tom is right. Thats the only right way to do it. If you,re gonna paint em, why not do it right. __________________ "Who owns this car with the peace sign, the mag wheels, and four on the floor?" 67 Short Step 283/TH400/4.11

12-24-2003, 01:50 PM	#10
EJ Registered User Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: El Dorado Springs, MO Posts: 227	If they were my doors I would just drill a hole in the bottom of the doors shake or vacuum the rust flakes out then get a hand pump sprayer like walmart sells and use rust converter its real thin and sprays nicely. You should be able to soak the inside of the doors and with a hole on the bottom it might make a nice drain if your window seals ever leak. I never used POR 15 if its thin im sure it would work great or use something like this http://www.gemplers.com/a/shop/produ...&GEN9=0&T1=RCQ

12-24-2003, 05:13 PM	#11
GMCjunkie Dude...I'm a CHICK Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lakeland Georgia Posts: 6,192	Thanks yall for your replies!! Tom, I wish I could do it that way. But I definetly dont have the means to do that. I was pretty sure I wouldnt get out of it with out cutting someting. Ill get it tho. Thanks again!!!! junk __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~* "The unexamined life is not worth living" -Socrates ~~~~~~~~~~~~~* '71 GMC Suburban 4x4

12-24-2003, 05:31 PM	#12
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,993	Jodie, if you do the hole in the bottom of the door, first find some body plugs.That way you can use the right size drill bit to make the holes and they will be sealed.If the windows are out it might be possible to clean the inside with some sort of media blasting thru the holes.I would also do as suggested and use a rust converter. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

12-24-2003, 05:44 PM	#13
old Rusty C10 Robert Olson Transport Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: recent transplant to NC USA Posts: 20,302	i would make a small hole in the cetner of the inner door and try using one of the vacuum attachemnts for computers etc inside the door to get out what wouldnt fall out seal it and then cover the door with carpet like somoene else suggested __________________ Bob 1951 International running on a squarebody chassis "If a man's worth is judged by the people he associates himself with, then i am the richest man in the world knowing some of the fine people of this board" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...t.php?f=25&a=9 (you can review the site rules here!) PM Me for your vehicle/parts hauling needs in the North East US or see my Facebook page Robert Olson Transport Live each day to the fullest.. you never know when fate is going to pull the rug out from under you... I hate cancer!!

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