Long or Short WP...is that you're final answer?? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

hardwaycooke · 03-02-2014, 07:17 PM

OK...I've measured, its not 5.7 or 7, its more like 6.5. IT HAS THE RIDGES ON IT LIKE THE PICS OF A LWP BUT iVE BEEN TOLD ITS A SHORT. I KNOW THE po PUT A NEW ONE ON IT BUT HES UNSURE HIMSELF. lOOK AT THE PICS AND LET ME KNOW. I NEED PS HELP AND THIS IS WHERE I NEED TO START.
tHANKS

Sorry about the caps..bad typer..

hugger6933 · 03-02-2014, 07:33 PM

Sure looks like a short w/p to me

Lee H · 03-02-2014, 07:41 PM

If you can put your fingers between the pump and timing chain cover it's a long, if not it's short.

ecgate · 03-02-2014, 07:59 PM

Looks long to me.

Hawghauler · 03-02-2014, 09:42 PM

A long pump has the power steering mount on the driver's side of the pump. This mount is a protrusion on the driver's side that has a 3/8th inch hole going front to back. A bolt goes through the front of the mount, then through this protrusion and tightens in the threaded receiver at the back of the mount. It also has a lot of space between the back of the pump and the timing cover. Short pump has almost no space between the pump and the timing cover. You have a short pump, by the pictures.

**Classic Bowties** · 03-02-2014, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawghauler

A long pump has the power steering mount on the driver's side of the pump.

Also wanted to add that to the best of my knowledge, all 69 and later chevy cars and the 73 and later GM trucks were all long water pump equipped with a pass. side mounted alternator. Mel

hardwaycooke · 03-02-2014, 10:01 PM

See what I mean. long/short/long......

PHATTIRE67 · 03-02-2014, 10:30 PM

Thats a long pump look at the space between waterpump and timing cover. My old motor had a short pump and there was hardly any clearance between pump and cover. Good luck hope u get her fixed up

hardwaycooke · 03-02-2014, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Classic Bowties

Also wanted to add that to the best of my knowledge, all 69 and later chevy cars and the 73 and later GM trucks were all long water pump equipped with a pass. side mounted alternator. Mel

What about this post. Look up one.

Thats a long pump look at the space between waterpump and timing cover. My old motor had a short pump and there was hardly any clearance between pump and cover. Good luck hope u get her fixed up

Isnt their an easier way...???

**Boog** · 03-02-2014, 10:49 PM

Go to your local auto parts store and ask to see both of them, long and short, so you can see the difference for yourself.

As far as the post above that is right IF the engine or accessories on your engine have not been changed sometime in the last 40 + years. It happens.

67ctener · 03-02-2014, 10:53 PM

If it was a big block I could tell you but also easier to identify

**Classic Bowties** · 03-02-2014, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hugger6933

Sure looks like a short w/p to me

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Originally Posted by ecgate

Looks long to me.

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Originally Posted by PHATTIRE67

Thats a long pump look at the space between waterpump and timing cover.

Do you guys care to take a guess at which type water pump is mounted on the front of the below pictured GM crate 350? I know the magic answer 1000% percent.

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Originally Posted by hardwaycooke

See what I mean. long/short/long......

Dennis, it was nice talking with you on the phone this evening, now I see what you were talking about here with the back and fourth info. Sometimes you need to sort/weed through alot of the posted replies around here as the poster adding the info may know about as much and at time less than the person looking for the needed help and info. Mel

67ctener · 03-02-2014, 11:28 PM

This may help

hardwaycooke · 03-02-2014, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Classic Bowties

Do you guys care to take a guess at which type water pump is mounted on the front of the below pictured GM crate 350? I know the magic answer 1000% percent.

Dennis, it was nice talking with you on the phone this evening, now I see what you were talking about here with the back and fourth info. Sometimes you need to sort/weed through alot of the posted replies around here as the poster adding the info may know about as much and at time less than the person looking for the needed help and info. Mel

Yes it was a very informative talk. Thanks for everything!!!!!

hardwaycooke · 03-02-2014, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 67ctener

This may help

Yeah, thats the pic that confused me at first. Mine doesnt really measure either, or maybe its just not close enought since my fans mounted...and those"ridges" on the long one in the pic...mine has those but I just found the receipt from Oreillys where the PO bought this one and its for 72 and under, so its short...thanks classics...

hardwaycooke · 03-02-2014, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Classic Bowties

Do you guys care to take a guess at which type water pump is mounted on the front of the below pictured GM crate 350? I know the magic answer 1000% percent.

Dennis, it was nice talking with you on the phone this evening, now I see what you were talking about here with the back and fourth info. Sometimes you need to sort/weed through alot of the posted replies around here as the poster adding the info may know about as much and at time less than the person looking for the needed help and info. Mel

After all my recent experience, I'd say short, so its prob long...

Tx Firefighter · 03-03-2014, 07:45 AM

It's a short pump.

You can bet your money on that.

I'm sorry so many guys are giving you wrong answers. Folks on here don't seem to realize that giving bum advice can cause people to spend money on the wrong things.

jdw · 03-03-2014, 08:30 AM

To me, that just looks like the wrong steering pump. Post some pics with a tape measure of both the water and steering pump to give us a better idea, but I don't think it's going to make a difference whether the water pump is long or short. Heck, if you lived up here I'd give you a water pump if it'd make a difference. I don't know as much as a lot of guys on here, but something just looks wrong. Best of luck.

hardwaycooke · 03-03-2014, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jdw

To me, that just looks like the wrong steering pump. Post some pics with a tape measure of both the water and steering pump to give us a better idea, but I don't think it's going to make a difference whether the water pump is long or short. Heck, if you lived up here I'd give you a water pump if it'd make a difference. I don't know as much as a lot of guys on here, but something just looks wrong. Best of luck.

Its the right pump. Its a Saginaw same dimensions just a bigger reservoir. I've measured the crap out of it..LOL

67ChevyRedneck · 03-03-2014, 01:24 PM

I've had both on the same motor in my truck. Absolutely a SHORT W/P.

Long:

Short:

airdale94 · 03-04-2014, 09:15 PM

Maybe it's a Corvette water pump, they will measure at about 6.5".

03-02-2014, 07:17 PM	#1
hardwaycooke Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: anderson, sc Posts: 647	Long or Short WP...is that you're final answer?? OK...I've measured, its not 5.7 or 7, its more like 6.5. IT HAS THE RIDGES ON IT LIKE THE PICS OF A LWP BUT iVE BEEN TOLD ITS A SHORT. I KNOW THE po PUT A NEW ONE ON IT BUT HES UNSURE HIMSELF. lOOK AT THE PICS AND LET ME KNOW. I NEED PS HELP AND THIS IS WHERE I NEED TO START. tHANKS Sorry about the caps..bad typer.. Attached Images

03-02-2014, 07:33 PM	#2
hugger6933 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Marianna Arkansas Posts: 7,280	Re: Long or Short WP...is that you're final answer?? Sure looks like a short w/p to me

03-02-2014, 07:41 PM	#3
Lee H Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Upland Ca Posts: 4,147	Re: Long or Short WP...is that you're final answer?? If you can put your fingers between the pump and timing chain cover it's a long, if not it's short. __________________ 1972 C10 SWB, Air, PS, PB, 350/350THM. Second owner. 1965 Corvette roadster, 44K miles, 327/365 SHP, 4 speed, side exhaust, knockoffs, teak, second owner (bought in 1970), Have ALL numbers matching components. My frame off restoration thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=556703

03-02-2014, 07:59 PM	#4
ecgate Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Council Bluffs, Iowa Posts: 280	Re: Long or Short WP...is that you're final answer?? Looks long to me.

03-02-2014, 09:42 PM	#5
Hawghauler Registered User Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Whidbey Island/Edmonds,WA Posts: 360	Re: Long or Short WP...is that you're final answer?? A long pump has the power steering mount on the driver's side of the pump. This mount is a protrusion on the driver's side that has a 3/8th inch hole going front to back. A bolt goes through the front of the mount, then through this protrusion and tightens in the threaded receiver at the back of the mount. It also has a lot of space between the back of the pump and the timing cover. Short pump has almost no space between the pump and the timing cover. You have a short pump, by the pictures. __________________ If I have to be on 4 wheels, It has to be a classic Chevy 1967 c10 Longbed (Hawghauler/Icy weather transport) 2003 BMW K1200GT (Rain bike) 2007 Softail Deuce (Sun bike) 2009 Ultra Classic Electra Glide (Everything else bike)

03-02-2014, 10:01 PM	#7
hardwaycooke Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: anderson, sc Posts: 647	Re: Long or Short WP...is that you're final answer?? See what I mean. long/short/long......

03-02-2014, 10:30 PM	#8
PHATTIRE67 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: norfolk ontario canada Posts: 61	Re: Long or Short WP...is that you're final answer?? Thats a long pump look at the space between waterpump and timing cover. My old motor had a short pump and there was hardly any clearance between pump and cover. Good luck hope u get her fixed up

03-02-2014, 10:49 PM	#10
Boog laying low Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Searcy, Ark. USA Posts: 13,513	Re: Long or Short WP...is that you're final answer?? Go to your local auto parts store and ask to see both of them, long and short, so you can see the difference for yourself. As far as the post above that is right IF the engine or accessories on your engine have not been changed sometime in the last 40 + years. It happens. __________________ Boog 69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver primer is finer 91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said. I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross

03-02-2014, 10:53 PM	#11
67ctener Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Arlington Washington Posts: 1,808	Re: Long or Short WP...is that you're final answer?? If it was a big block I could tell you but also easier to identify

03-02-2014, 11:28 PM	#13
67ctener Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Arlington Washington Posts: 1,808	Re: Long or Short WP...is that you're final answer?? This may help Attached Images

03-03-2014, 07:45 AM	#17
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: Long or Short WP...is that you're final answer?? It's a short pump. You can bet your money on that. I'm sorry so many guys are giving you wrong answers. Folks on here don't seem to realize that giving bum advice can cause people to spend money on the wrong things. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

03-03-2014, 08:30 AM	#18
jdw Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: portland oregon Posts: 156	Re: Long or Short WP...is that you're final answer?? To me, that just looks like the wrong steering pump. Post some pics with a tape measure of both the water and steering pump to give us a better idea, but I don't think it's going to make a difference whether the water pump is long or short. Heck, if you lived up here I'd give you a water pump if it'd make a difference. I don't know as much as a lot of guys on here, but something just looks wrong. Best of luck.

03-03-2014, 01:24 PM	#20
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: Long or Short WP...is that you're final answer?? I've had both on the same motor in my truck. Absolutely a SHORT W/P. Long: Short: __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

03-04-2014, 09:15 PM	#21
airdale94 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Topeka,KS Posts: 778	Re: Long or Short WP...is that you're final answer?? Maybe it's a Corvette water pump, they will measure at about 6.5". __________________ 68' C20. 283CI w/55CC 305HO heads, NP435 Close Ratio, Corp. 14 bolt FF 3.21, 75' front end swap (everything but the X-member).

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