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Old 10-23-2014, 11:18 PM   #1
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Fuel Cell & Frame Spacing Question

I am planning out my fuel cell location (under bed & Ill be using Fuel Cell Guy).

Gramps (my grandpa) had some coworker custom fab a hitch for his truck back in 70'. The thing is a beast (see pic). I will not be keeping this hitch because I will be putting the fuel cell there.

Anyways, when measuring the space the fuel cell will go, I realized that there was almost 1.5" in spacing difference (see picture).

So my question, this isn't normal, right? If not, I assume I will need to alter crooked piece to plumb prior to hanging my fuel cell. Should i keep this piece, his coworkers took a nice size chunk out of it (see picture) and has some rust issues. Not sure if I should keep this or just have someone help me fab up a new section.

Sorry for my lack of terminology, still learning a lot as I go.

Thanks everyone!

PS. I will be utilizing a hidden hitch if that matters at all.

Thanks everyone!
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Old 10-23-2014, 11:54 PM   #2
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Re: Fuel Cell & Frame Spacing Question

Also, I am wanting to use FuelCellGuy, but haven't heard from him. Hoping he is still around, just laying low. His web address has gone dark.

Anyone know if he is still around?
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Old 10-24-2014, 04:05 AM   #3
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Re: Fuel Cell & Frame Spacing Question

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I am planning out my fuel cell location (under bed & Ill be using Fuel Cell Guy).

Gramps (my grandpa) had some coworker custom fab a hitch for his truck back in 70'. The thing is a beast (see pic). I will not be keeping this hitch because I will be putting the fuel cell there.

Anyways, when measuring the space the fuel cell will go, I realized that there was almost 1.5" in spacing difference (see picture).

So my question, this isn't normal, right? If not, I assume I will need to alter crooked piece to plumb prior to hanging my fuel cell. Should i keep this piece, his coworkers took a nice size chunk out of it (see picture) and has some rust issues. Not sure if I should keep this or just have someone help me fab up a new section.

Sorry for my lack of terminology, still learning a lot as I go.

Thanks everyone!

PS. I will be utilizing a hidden hitch if that matters at all.

Thanks everyone!
That's your rear cross-member, you want to keep it and actually repair or replace it. Also, not sure if it's actually crooked or if the forward one is crooked. If I remember I'll go outside tomorrow and measure my 72 LWB.

If you are going to run a blazer style LMC tank, you want the cross-members in their stock locations. Some people like to run custom tanks that don't hang down as low, they sometimes fabricate custom rear cross-members and move them for clearance.
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Old 10-24-2014, 08:08 AM   #4
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Re: Fuel Cell & Frame Spacing Question

If the fuel cell guy is no longer around, look at the Boyd welding tanks. That the one I have and it's a real nice piece.
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Old 10-24-2014, 08:29 AM   #5
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Re: Fuel Cell & Frame Spacing Question

The crossmember closest to the rear axle is supposed to be angled.

The member that has been clearanced should be "square" to the main rails.

The only other alternative I can think of is what I used. Early Classic Ent. offers a rear c-channel that slips into the very rear of the frame rails and allows the deletion of the one you have thats butchered. It also gives more room for tank/cell fitment.

I dont know if there are real detailed pictures in my build, but you should be able to find it.

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Old 10-24-2014, 08:32 AM   #6
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Re: Fuel Cell & Frame Spacing Question

The brace isn't crooked, that's the way is supposed to be. ECE makes a replacement piece that is much thicker and bolts in. You can't go wrong with FCG or Boyds tanks, I've had both and both are a quality product.

Look up crossmembers here: http://www.earlyclassic.com/catalog.aspx

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Old 10-24-2014, 09:18 AM   #7
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Re: Fuel Cell & Frame Spacing Question

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That's your rear cross-member, you want to keep it and actually repair or replace it. Also, not sure if it's actually crooked or if the forward one is crooked. If I remember I'll go outside tomorrow and measure my 72 LWB.

If you are going to run a blazer style LMC tank, you want the cross-members in their stock locations. Some people like to run custom tanks that don't hang down as low, they sometimes fabricate custom rear cross-members and move them for clearance.
Thanks MM!

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If the fuel cell guy is no longer around, look at the Boyd welding tanks. That the one I have and it's a real nice piece.
I have been looking at his tanks too, heard great things. Either way, I know Ill be putting one in, regardless of supplier.

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The crossmember closest to the rear axle is supposed to be angled.

The member that has been clearanced should be "square" to the main rails.

The only other alternative I can think of is what I used. Early Classic Ent. offers a rear c-channel that slips into the very rear of the frame rails and allows the deletion of the one you have thats butchered. It also gives more room for tank/cell fitment.

I dont know if there are real detailed pictures in my build, but you should be able to find it.

Shane
Shane, thats why I love this forum! I would have never understood why a crossmember would be crooked, but glad I am now informed. Didn't want to mess anything up bc I thought it was not aligned properly.

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The brace isn't crooked, that's the way is supposed to be. ECE makes a replacement piece that is much thicker and bolts in. You can't go wrong with FCG or Boyds tanks, I've had both and both are a quality product.

Look up crossmembers here: http://www.earlyclassic.com/catalog.aspx
Bingo! Thanks Hart_Rod! I had actually read some of your other posts on your tanks, they helped me make the decision.


To all who responded, last question. In the third picture I posted, on top of the frame there is a L shaped crossmember? Is that stock? Whenever I read through other people's builds, I swear their frames are open ended at the very rear, without this piece on top of the frame.

Thanks for all the help, its greatly appreciated!
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Old 10-24-2014, 09:28 AM   #8
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Re: Fuel Cell & Frame Spacing Question

The angle iron at the rear/top of the frame was added with the hitch install.

The butchered member is the last original x-member on the frame. It goes with the rest of the hitch.

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The angle iron at the rear/top of the frame was added with the hitch install.

The butchered member is the last original x-member on the frame. It goes with the rest of the hitch.

Shane
Awesome. Thanks, Shane.
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