Ever wonder the difference between BT's 6" Flip vs DJM's 5" Flip? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

TIMSPEED · 01-26-2004, 08:24 AM

I've always wondered why the BellTech's are rated for 6", while the DJM is only 5"...same parts, looks like..hmm..anyone know?
BellTech's:

DJM's:

Hmmmmmm....

**N2TRUX** · 01-26-2004, 12:52 PM

Look at the bump stops on the BellTech kit they are taller. Yeah that's what it is, the bumpstops are taller...

low 84 · 01-26-2004, 02:36 PM

those are some skimpy looking bell tech notches............only 6 bolts..............

*1FaastC10* · 01-26-2004, 06:45 PM

Western Chassis stuff looks way beefier than either of those.

Slonaker · 01-26-2004, 06:51 PM

Could it be related to the variaton in the amount of drop you get based on the thickness of the spring pack? My understanding is that you get more drop if you have more leaves. Maybe one vendor states the maximum you can get and the other states the minimum.

Slonaker

TIMSPEED · 01-26-2004, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1FaastC10
Western Chassis stuff looks way beefier than either of those.

Are you talking about the C-Notch portion of the Flip Kit? If so, I'm not debating that here, I'm debating the difference in the actual FLIP KIT and what makes it 5" or 6"...

TIMSPEED · 01-26-2004, 08:47 PM

DJM = $90
WC = $80
Hmmmmmm....So I will have to start endorsing the WC Flip Kit...since it's $10 cheaper!

shavedchevy · 01-26-2004, 09:01 PM

Is wester chassis the same as chassis tech. That what I get up north here at a shop and they claim it's the best..and for all I know it is. I don't know about if I got the full six inches out of my drop though.

shavedchevy · 01-26-2004, 09:09 PM

pre drop...

shavedchevy · 01-26-2004, 09:10 PM

post drop... 4/6

low 84 · 01-26-2004, 09:53 PM

the only way belltech could make there flip lower than any other flip would be in the design of the saddles if the saddle were designed taller, as in the "U" shaped portion moved up further that would drop it more. it would be like adding a 1 inch drop block on a flipped axle

TIMSPEED · 01-26-2004, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shavedchevy
Is western chassis the same as chassis tech. That what I get up north here at a shop and they claim it's the best.

Chassis Tech is basically shAIM in disguise...

SCOTI · 01-26-2004, 10:24 PM

The difference in drop is going to be the difference in the thickness of the spring pack. They advertise them as different rates based on 'typical' installations & don't guarantee the 'exact' amount of drop because of variances in different vehicles.

BaggedC10 · 01-26-2004, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shavedchevy
Is wester chassis the same as chassis tech. That what I get up north here at a shop and they claim it's the best..and for all I know it is. I don't know about if I got the full six inches out of my drop though.

No, the two companies are not the same. Chassis Tech (AIM Industries, Truckin' Suspension, etc.) has a poor quality and service reputation. Stay far away from their components.

*1FaastC10* · 01-27-2004, 01:12 AM

i have seen shAIM flip kits, and owned their shackles, hangers, and drop spindles. i have also owned a Western Chassis setup including flip kit, c-notch, shackles, and spindles. the shAIM parts were visibly cheaper (casting flash on the spindles, welds werent as good of quality) than the WC stuff. there is NO way that these two products are "the same".

bigblock73 · 01-27-2004, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1FaastC10
i have seen shAIM flip kits, and owned theyr shackles, hangers, and drop spindles. i have also owned a Western Chassis setup including flip kit, c-notch, shackles, and spindles. the shAIM parts were visibly cheaper (casting flash on the spindles, welds werent as good of quality) than the WC stuff. there is NO way that these two products are "the same".

theyr???

*1FaastC10* · 01-27-2004, 03:24 AM

i fixed it douchebag, are ya happy?

hey Josh, is there any way we can get a spellcheck feature added to the board?

Slonaker · 01-27-2004, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SCOTI
The difference in drop is going to be the difference in the thickness of the spring pack. They advertise them as different rates based on 'typical' installations & don't guarantee the 'exact' amount of drop because of variances in different vehicles.

I think that's what I said...

Slonaker

8t5Silverado · 01-27-2004, 02:19 PM

$80 or $90?

I think PSC has them for $60...

BaggedC10 · 01-27-2004, 03:38 PM

$10 difference, big deal.

I've had both WC and DJM flip kits for my previous truck. I was more impressed w/ DJM's product. The finished product looked much better---Powdercoat is durable, the holes were drilled straight, and the edges were nicely finished. The WC kit was on the "rough" side. I observed this in both flip kits I purchased from them.

01-26-2004, 08:24 AM	#1
TIMSPEED Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,321	Ever wonder the difference between BT's 6" Flip vs DJM's 5" Flip? I've always wondered why the BellTech's are rated for 6", while the DJM is only 5"...same parts, looks like..hmm..anyone know? BellTech's: DJM's: Hmmmmmm.... __________________ I have a few cars... See Them Here Last edited by TIMSPEED; 01-26-2004 at 08:28 AM.

01-26-2004, 12:52 PM	#2
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,021	Look at the bump stops on the BellTech kit they are taller. Yeah that's what it is, the bumpstops are taller... __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"

01-26-2004, 02:36 PM	#3
low 84 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,144	those are some skimpy looking bell tech notches............only 6 bolts.............. __________________ '51 F100, backhalf with a narrowed 9 and coil overs, 18.5" mickeys, monte front clip, +400" sbc in the works '05 1500 Crew Cab RIP '84 swb 5/7 drop, solid cammed 408 w/ fully ported dart heads, th350 w/ 10 inch hughes, 12 bolt w/ 3.73 richmonds and a locker '80 swb 4x4 in progress: 7" lift, 350 th350/np205, d44 and 1.5" ORD tie rod, 14BFF w/discs , armored diff covers, 40" MTR's

01-26-2004, 06:51 PM	#5
Slonaker Insert Witty Text Here Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 3,415	Could it be related to the variaton in the amount of drop you get based on the thickness of the spring pack? My understanding is that you get more drop if you have more leaves. Maybe one vendor states the maximum you can get and the other states the minimum. Slonaker __________________ '86 Chevy C10 (Sold 04/19/13 ) Stock '01 Silverado

01-26-2004, 08:47 PM	#7
TIMSPEED Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,321	DJM = $90 WC = $80 Hmmmmmm....So I will have to start endorsing the WC Flip Kit...since it's $10 cheaper! __________________ I have a few cars... See Them Here

01-26-2004, 06:45 PM	#4
1FaastC10 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 6,399	Western Chassis stuff looks way beefier than either of those.

01-26-2004, 09:01 PM	#8
shavedchevy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 315	Is wester chassis the same as chassis tech. That what I get up north here at a shop and they claim it's the best..and for all I know it is. I don't know about if I got the full six inches out of my drop though. __________________ Dennis

01-26-2004, 09:09 PM	#9
shavedchevy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 315	pre drop... __________________ Dennis

01-26-2004, 09:10 PM	#10
shavedchevy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 315	post drop... 4/6 __________________ Dennis

01-26-2004, 09:53 PM	#11
low 84 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,144	the only way belltech could make there flip lower than any other flip would be in the design of the saddles if the saddle were designed taller, as in the "U" shaped portion moved up further that would drop it more. it would be like adding a 1 inch drop block on a flipped axle __________________ '51 F100, backhalf with a narrowed 9 and coil overs, 18.5" mickeys, monte front clip, +400" sbc in the works '05 1500 Crew Cab RIP '84 swb 5/7 drop, solid cammed 408 w/ fully ported dart heads, th350 w/ 10 inch hughes, 12 bolt w/ 3.73 richmonds and a locker '80 swb 4x4 in progress: 7" lift, 350 th350/np205, d44 and 1.5" ORD tie rod, 14BFF w/discs , armored diff covers, 40" MTR's

01-26-2004, 10:24 PM	#13
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,064	The difference in drop is going to be the difference in the thickness of the spring pack. They advertise them as different rates based on 'typical' installations & don't guarantee the 'exact' amount of drop because of variances in different vehicles. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.* Last edited by SCOTI; 01-26-2004 at 10:27 PM.

01-27-2004, 01:12 AM	#15
1FaastC10 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 6,399	i have seen shAIM flip kits, and owned their shackles, hangers, and drop spindles. i have also owned a Western Chassis setup including flip kit, c-notch, shackles, and spindles. the shAIM parts were visibly cheaper (casting flash on the spindles, welds werent as good of quality) than the WC stuff. there is NO way that these two products are "the same". Last edited by 1FaastC10; 01-27-2004 at 03:22 AM.

01-27-2004, 03:24 AM	#17
1FaastC10 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 6,399	i fixed it douchebag, are ya happy? hey Josh, is there any way we can get a spellcheck feature added to the board?

01-27-2004, 02:19 PM	#19
8t5Silverado Mudslides 'r my specialty Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: STL Posts: 1,106	$80 or $90? I think PSC has them for $60... __________________ Always on the lookout for old cars and parts...(20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, etc.) http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/500339

01-27-2004, 03:38 PM	#20
BaggedC10 Under construction! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,065	$10 difference, big deal. I've had both WC and DJM flip kits for my previous truck. I was more impressed w/ DJM's product. The finished product looked much better---Powdercoat is durable, the holes were drilled straight, and the edges were nicely finished. The WC kit was on the "rough" side. I observed this in both flip kits I purchased from them. __________________ 2001 Silverado bagged on 22's. Sold



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