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Old 06-11-2015, 08:45 PM   #1
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Can't catch a break

I was supposed to go get some new rims and tires for the truck, but alas, something is wrong again. The truck barely turns over, it was working fine till I put a new steering column and some suspension pieces in. New battery, cables are less then a year old, and starter is about 6 months old. Got fed up, said some nasty things, you know the drill. So now I will have to do a voltage drop test tomorrow when I bring my power probe home from work. If it's not one thing it's another.
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Old 06-11-2015, 09:45 PM   #2
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Re: Can't catch a break

I had a similar issue with the neighbors 68 Firebird it would try to crank then would not. put a booster on it. It would start then nothing after changing solenoids and checking wires 3 hours later I wiggled the battery terminal on the brand new cable and the molded end was bad. I wiggled it out about 1/4 inch and it turns over like crazy. Turns out new cable is defective.
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Old 06-11-2015, 09:50 PM   #3
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I have a feeling in might be cable too. There both new, but I did get them from autozone. I will probably go get some welding cable and make new ones just for the piece of mind if nothing else!
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Old 06-11-2015, 10:30 PM   #4
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Ok. So I just remembered I broke my engine ground strap when I was installing my sway bar�� completely forgot about it.
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Old 06-11-2015, 11:30 PM   #5
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Check voltage at the starter. Where is the Negative cable grounded?
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Old 06-11-2015, 11:42 PM   #6
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Negative is grounded to frame. Pretty sure is my broken engine to chassis ground strap. I'll put a new one on Saturday and try again
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Yes that may be it. Usually I ground to the engine and use aux ground straps on valve covers and a large one to the frame.
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Old 06-12-2015, 12:12 AM   #8
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Hopefully it's just the ground strap...good luck.
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Old 06-12-2015, 12:26 PM   #9
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Ground your battery to the engine. Not the frame.

Make sure your ground straps from the frame are connected to the engine.

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Old 06-12-2015, 02:26 PM   #10
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Engine ground strap fixed it.
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Old 06-12-2015, 02:29 PM   #11
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good deal
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Old 06-12-2015, 07:41 PM   #12
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Great! Now you can get those new wheels and tires...right on!
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Old 06-12-2015, 09:33 PM   #13
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You did catch a break after all!
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Old 06-12-2015, 10:51 PM   #14
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Negative is grounded to frame. Pretty sure is my broken engine to chassis ground strap. I'll put a new one on Saturday and try again
Not to beat a dead horse, or to beat a still not dead electrical fallacy, regardless of what GM did, the battery should be grounded to the block via the big - cable, and the starter powered directly by the big + cable.
The only purpose of those big cables is to power the starter while cranking.
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I agree I also added a woven large sized ground strap and attached it from the motor mount bolts to the frame it is clean looking and requires a 6-8 inch strap. Glad to hear yo found the problem.
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I have it to the frame and an equal size cable coming from the same ground point to the engine.
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