Do you think CPP shipped me the wrong spindles..?? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**kitsbeach** · 01-24-2016, 09:23 PM

Do you guys think CPP might have shipped me the wrong spindles.?

My truck is a 1967 C-10 (6-lug)

You can see in this picture the outside measurements where the ball joints and A-arms would attach is roughly 8 and 1/2 inches (it is actually more like 8 inches because the ball joint surface is recessed).

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The CPP spindles I ordered are their "Modular Drop Spindles" part# CP30106-2 for a 1963-70 although there is no part number on the casting.

You can see in the photo of the new spindle that the outside measurement is more like 9 inches.

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And one more picture so you guys can see them both side to side.

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Does anybody have any ideas.?

Is this normal for the new spindle to be 1/2" taller.?

I'm pretty sure my truck is original (but you never know).

'68 Newtricks · 01-25-2016, 12:50 AM

I would put them on and see if they work, but make sure the ball joints are correct for your year. If not, it may be for the 73-87 ball joints. Sorry, my stuff in the newer stuff so I'm of no help

**kitsbeach** · 01-25-2016, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by '68 Newtricks

I would put them on and see if they work, but make sure the ball joints are correct for your year. If not, it may be for the 73-87 ball joints. Sorry, my stuff in the newer stuff so I'm of no help

I checked the ball joints and they fit into the spindles and seem to be the right taper (I believe the only difference in ball joints is the taper).

My ball joints are part number2 #101-10037 and #101-10036 which are listed as correct for 1963-1970.

So it looks to me that the spindles are machined right for 1967 ball joints but they measure different than my factory ones.?

Should I proceed.?

I guess the A-arms would be an extra 1/2 apart, does that mean anything or change any alignment measurements.?

**kitsbeach** · 01-25-2016, 01:03 AM

I just googled "tall spindles" and it seems like a taller spindle is a good idea for handling and tire wear, so maybe CPP adds a little bit on purpose.?

**68bowtie** · 01-25-2016, 02:25 AM

i'm no expert, but this would leave your upper a-arm sitting higher by 1/2", but the lower a-arm and spring wouldn't change. the spindle angle may change very slightly, but i assume an alignment would fix that. i would not sweat it if the ball joints all fit right. i would not think there would be any conflict with the front rim/tire and the upper a-arm, but that might be something to check.

'68 Newtricks · 01-25-2016, 11:00 AM

Run 'em and get us an after pic!

**steelhorse** · 01-25-2016, 11:16 AM

Most likely it was done on purpose to help camber.

**kitsbeach** · 01-25-2016, 11:46 AM

Thanks guys for the responses. I think I will try to phone CPP and see what they say.

There are quite a few stories of faulty machining, although these look machined close to the casting. It may be that post-1967 castings were a bit taller and they use the same castings for all years (and just machine for the different ball joints).

I'll post up what I find and, yes, will post pictures.

**kitsbeach** · 01-25-2016, 11:49 AM

Here's a shot with just the rear lowered…

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Can't wait to get rid of those old 6-lug front wheels and see my steelies all around.

57larry · 01-25-2016, 07:20 PM

CPP never makes mistakes, just ask them

**kitsbeach** · 01-25-2016, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 57larry

CPP never makes mistakes, just ask them

Ya I bet..!!

Z10 · 01-26-2016, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 57larry

CPP never makes mistakes, just ask them

abraham.hd · 01-26-2016, 09:27 AM

Lolol

PowerdbyChevy79 · 01-26-2016, 11:50 AM

are they drop spindles?

**kitsbeach** · 01-27-2016, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PowerdbyChevy79

are they drop spindles?

Yes they are 2" modular drop spindles from CPP.

hotrod1 · 03-30-2016, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kitsbeach

Yes they are 2" modular drop spindles from CPP.

Did you ever find out the story with the spindles and the size difference?

**kitsbeach** · 03-30-2016, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hotrod1

Did you ever find out the story with the spindles and the size difference?

I still haven't got them installed (been busy) but have one side done and they look ok.

Maybe they changed over the years and CPP sells one universal size for 67-72..??

Anyway I will find out once I get the alignment done but for now do not know.

Z10 · 03-30-2016, 10:04 PM

One word " McGaughys"
http://www.mcgaughystore.com

**kitsbeach** · 04-14-2016, 02:51 PM

Just was reading an article in Car Craft magazine about installing drop spindles onto a Camaro and they said the spindle manufacturer purposely made teh spindles taller to help with castor or camber (I can't remember which).

01-25-2016, 12:50 AM	#2
'68 Newtricks Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Los Angeles area :( Posts: 499	Re: Do you think CPP shipped me the wrong spindles..?? I would put them on and see if they work, but make sure the ball joints are correct for your year. If not, it may be for the 73-87 ball joints. Sorry, my stuff in the newer stuff so I'm of no help __________________ '68 C10 SWB '85 K30 Blazer

01-25-2016, 01:03 AM	#4
kitsbeach Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 591	Re: Do you think CPP shipped me the wrong spindles..?? I just googled "tall spindles" and it seems like a taller spindle is a good idea for handling and tire wear, so maybe CPP adds a little bit on purpose.? __________________ Kitsbeach (Ken) 1967 C10 LWB (now SWB) Fleetside 6cyl Saginaw three-on-the-tree "No Frills" 1980 C20 Long to short & static drop "Square One"

01-25-2016, 02:25 AM	#5
68bowtie Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Turlock, CA Posts: 8,801	Re: Do you think CPP shipped me the wrong spindles..?? i'm no expert, but this would leave your upper a-arm sitting higher by 1/2", but the lower a-arm and spring wouldn't change. the spindle angle may change very slightly, but i assume an alignment would fix that. i would not sweat it if the ball joints all fit right. i would not think there would be any conflict with the front rim/tire and the upper a-arm, but that might be something to check. __________________ Please help my sister in law with her battle with cancer https://gofund.me/902f6fce Thank you all so far you are angels!! Project "C10 Fever" (68 factory black 396 swb) Project "Little Sister" (70 c10 blue original paint refresh) Project "Blue Bomb" (70 c30 blue original paint refresh) SOLD Project "Vitamin C" (71 c10 orange original paint refresh) SOLD

01-25-2016, 11:00 AM	#6
'68 Newtricks Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Los Angeles area :( Posts: 499	Re: Do you think CPP shipped me the wrong spindles..?? Run 'em and get us an after pic! __________________ '68 C10 SWB '85 K30 Blazer

01-25-2016, 11:16 AM	#7
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Franklinton NC Posts: 1,309	Re: Do you think CPP shipped me the wrong spindles..?? Most likely it was done on purpose to help camber.

01-24-2016, 09:23 PM	#1
kitsbeach Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 591	Do you think CPP shipped me the wrong spindles..?? Do you guys think CPP might have shipped me the wrong spindles.? My truck is a 1967 C-10 (6-lug) You can see in this picture the outside measurements where the ball joints and A-arms would attach is roughly 8 and 1/2 inches (it is actually more like 8 inches because the ball joint surface is recessed). The CPP spindles I ordered are their "Modular Drop Spindles" part# CP30106-2 for a 1963-70 although there is no part number on the casting. You can see in the photo of the new spindle that the outside measurement is more like 9 inches. And one more picture so you guys can see them both side to side. Does anybody have any ideas.? Is this normal for the new spindle to be 1/2" taller.? I'm pretty sure my truck is original (but you never know). __________________ Kitsbeach (Ken) 1967 C10 LWB (now SWB) Fleetside 6cyl Saginaw three-on-the-tree "No Frills" 1980 C20 Long to short & static drop "Square One"

01-25-2016, 11:46 AM	#8
kitsbeach Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 591	Re: Do you think CPP shipped me the wrong spindles..?? Thanks guys for the responses. I think I will try to phone CPP and see what they say. There are quite a few stories of faulty machining, although these look machined close to the casting. It may be that post-1967 castings were a bit taller and they use the same castings for all years (and just machine for the different ball joints). I'll post up what I find and, yes, will post pictures. __________________ Kitsbeach (Ken) 1967 C10 LWB (now SWB) Fleetside 6cyl Saginaw three-on-the-tree "No Frills" 1980 C20 Long to short & static drop "Square One"

01-25-2016, 11:49 AM	#9
kitsbeach Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 591	Re: Do you think CPP shipped me the wrong spindles..?? Here's a shot with just the rear lowered… Can't wait to get rid of those old 6-lug front wheels and see my steelies all around. __________________ Kitsbeach (Ken) 1967 C10 LWB (now SWB) Fleetside 6cyl Saginaw three-on-the-tree "No Frills" 1980 C20 Long to short & static drop "Square One"

01-25-2016, 07:20 PM	#10
57larry Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,161	Re: Do you think CPP shipped me the wrong spindles..?? CPP never makes mistakes, just ask them

01-26-2016, 09:27 AM	#13
abraham.hd Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: houston tx Posts: 132	Re: Do you think CPP shipped me the wrong spindles..?? Lolol __________________ http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/...e1993/nn-2.jpg

01-26-2016, 11:50 AM	#14
PowerdbyChevy79 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 790	Re: Do you think CPP shipped me the wrong spindles..?? are they drop spindles? __________________ 1966 C10 "Mary" 1972 C10 Cheyenne "Betty" https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=847364 1979 C10 Silverado "The BIG TEN" https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=841339 C10 Club Texas -HMIC

03-30-2016, 10:04 PM	#18
Z10 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 1,267	Re: Do you think CPP shipped me the wrong spindles..?? One word " McGaughys" http://www.mcgaughystore.com __________________ 1969 RS/SS Z10 Camaro Pace coupe 1972 GMC Short Step buildhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post6356218 1979 Mazda RX7 1979 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 & 1979 Pontiac Trans Am 10th Anniversary 1999 Honda Valkyrie 2006 Corvette Z06 2010 BMW 650i

04-14-2016, 02:51 PM	#19
kitsbeach Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 591	Re: Do you think CPP shipped me the wrong spindles..?? Just was reading an article in Car Craft magazine about installing drop spindles onto a Camaro and they said the spindle manufacturer purposely made teh spindles taller to help with castor or camber (I can't remember which). __________________ Kitsbeach (Ken) 1967 C10 LWB (now SWB) Fleetside 6cyl Saginaw three-on-the-tree "No Frills" 1980 C20 Long to short & static drop "Square One"

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