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Old 04-07-2004, 08:48 PM   #1
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Engine trouble please help!

ok this is the deal. just got truck back from paint. Been storing it in the garage. The past week i have been cranking it up and pulling it out to get some wet sanding done(damn my fingers hurt.) well today i go out to the garage to carnk it up. It turns over but it sounds like i am out of gas. I take a look and sure enough i am out of gas. go to store buy 5 gallons of 93 put it in still wont crank and run. so here is what i have done so far. Changed fuel filter, blew lines out, check to see if i still had spark, and do.it is a 327 with a 600cfm carb. I relocated gas tank to rear. have not had problems moving gas from back front in the past but...i stil have stock fuel pump. i know a little about engines but not to much.

Does any body have any other ideas... before i pay someone an arm and leg top fix it for me.

sorry for the long post.
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Old 04-07-2004, 09:01 PM   #2
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Have you tried to prime it with a little gas? Sometimes it takes quite a while for the fuel pump to pump the gas from the tank to the carb when it's been pumped dry.
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Old 04-07-2004, 09:07 PM   #3
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I would guess that you have lost prime on your fuel pump. It may be weak. You could try and jack the back of the truck up to get gravity to help you. Or pour a LITTLE gas in carb and get it to start. Or you could use an oil can, clean it out, fill with gasoline, take lose your fuel line BEFORE your filter and fill your fuel line with gas, I have had to do that before. Sometimes the gas on the outlet side of the pump will help it pick up prime. Hope this helps and please don't burn up your truck. You could also just put more gas in the tank, so your pump doesn't have such a high head to pull the fuel up.
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Old 04-07-2004, 09:13 PM   #4
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thanks i think i will try to jack the back end of the truck up tomorrow. i have also tried some engine starter(ether(sp)) in the carb but no luck. Thanks for the ideas. ill let yall know how it works out tomorrow.Thanks
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Old 04-07-2004, 10:16 PM   #5
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Your sure you have spark and you tried shooting some starting fluid into the carb with no response, I would pull a few spark plugs to see if they are wet or dry. If they are wet it's possible you have a flooded situation in which case you can pull all the plugs (possibly replace) and allow time for them and the cylinders to dry out, reinstall plugs and try again.
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Old 04-07-2004, 10:26 PM   #6
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thanks i think i will replace plugs too before i try to start it again. Thanks.
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Old 04-07-2004, 10:27 PM   #7
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i think i have spark. I took out a plug and reattached it to the wire then had my dad turn the truck over. i saw the spark and it shocked the crap out of me. the plug was fairly dry.
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Old 04-07-2004, 10:34 PM   #8
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i think i have spark. I took out a plug and reattached it to the wire then had my dad turn the truck over. i saw the spark and it shocked the crap out of me. the plug was fairly dry.
You've got spark then. Dosen't that hurt, happened to me more than once

Go under the hood and pull the throttle cable. If you have gas in the carb you should hear gas squirt down into the eninge. If you don't it will sound like it is squirting air, becuase that is what it w ould be squirting. I would proably pour a little gas in the motor, and it should proably start up.

Also, if you ran it all the way out of gas while it was running, the lines will be completley empty. It takes a stock mechanical fuel pump quite a while to fill the lines (been through that when my truck has ran out of gas). Putting a little gas in the engine should get it to start and make the pump prime the lines faster. You may have to do it several times until the fuel gets to the carb.

I prefer a clear plastic fuel filter so you can easily see if there is gas in the line or not. Fram makes one that i usually use, G3. Mine is mounted on the rubber hose going into the carb (aftermarket), about 6" from the fuel inlet.
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Old 04-07-2004, 11:47 PM   #9
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It takes a stock mechanical fuel pump quite a while to fill the lines (been through that when my truck has ran out of gas).

Ya-usually just longer than what you have battery enough for. It's on a curve, though, the longer the hike for fuel, the shorter the time the engine will crank.
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Old 04-08-2004, 12:28 AM   #10
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If it was me I would pour a little gas in the carb and try to start it. You should be able to run the truck enough this way to make sure gas is getting pumped to the carb.
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Old 04-08-2004, 08:59 AM   #11
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how much gas should i pour in
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Old 04-08-2004, 10:36 AM   #12
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Thanks guys! got up this am and put new plugs in, lifted back and poured a little gas in the carb.....and bam it cranked right up. purrrs like a kitten. Thanks again
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