Security system with GPS?

[bigbadchev72]

I have a 1968 Chevy short box 2wd I am almost finished building. I have dumped more money into this thing than I care to think about. With that being said I want to protect my investment the best I can.

I am looking for an aftermarket system that has GPS locating, remote start and electric door locks. My google is turning up $200 and below. This just seems awful cheap?

Any recommendations for a quality system?

[demian5]

Get an extra, activated iPhone in it somewhere connected to power. $10 a month for GPS tracking... Like an old iPhone 4s or 5 or something.

For the remote start? Why... I have it on my new silverado and its nice for these cold 47 degree socal winters (turns the seat warmers on) but I don't see a need for it in my old truck. Just another thing to worry about. I don't drive it enough in adverse conditions to need anything like that either.

Electric door locks would be cool, but I know my door locks are hard to unlock and don't know if the new technology el-cheapo plastic solenoids would be up to it. Maybe a good set of 70s cadillac ones would do the job, they are beefy.

Just my 2 cents.

[rockyrivermark]

Obviously remote start if fuel injected not carb.
I installed power locks and alarm system on my truck over the winter
The actuators works great. Very strong. Easy to install.
Just your run of the mill actuators from Amazon not expensive at all but work great.
Installed them on another vehicle and good for 2 yearsa now with alarm and remote start.
Crimestopper alarm. Nothing too fancy but works and easy to install
Mark

[68Stepbed]

My buddy sells these.

https://www.gnsperformance.com/skylink

[cleszkie]

If you want to throw away more money, get a LoJack device installed. Then you can keep sending them money to keep it activated

[rockyrivermark]

Or buy a fake lojac window decal off eBay.
Just a thought

[bigbadchev72]

I realize I cant make anything theft proof, But I would like to maximize the chances of getting it back quickly. I am running the Fitech system on a 454 and have the vintage air system in it. I plan to daily it to work and the remote start would be nice since it runs low 90s-110 degrees most of the summer months. I will check into these systems that were mentioned.

[davepl]

Originally Posted by cleszkie

If you want to throw away more money, get a LoJack device installed. Then you can keep sending them money to keep it activated

I do that. I like how you make it sound stupid without substantiating it in any way whatsoever.

If you've got some edge case like an unmonitored zip code you can drive my truck to, allow me to yawn in advance.

So... explain why using LoJack is throwing money away.

[HO455]

There are at least a half a dozen threads on theft protection. Here is one but do a search for even more information.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ead.php?t=3242

[Steeveedee]

Originally Posted by 68Stepbed

My buddy sells these.

https://www.gnsperformance.com/skylink

Maybe my internet security bolts are torqued down too tight, but I can't seem to find a page that gives prices, or options for trucks.

[bigbadchev72]

Originally Posted by HO455

There are at least a half a dozen threads on theft protection. Here is one but do a search for even more information.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ead.php?t=3242

That has no mention of GPS trackers with remote starts. I have done searches, but cant find anything that relates to what I am looking for. I do not want to use an old phone.

Looking to see if anyone has a system on a vehicle that works well, It could even be a newer vehicle that is a daily driver or their wifes rig or something.

[Coley]

So, here is a question for the GPS tracking system angle:
Let's say the vehicle is stolen and according to the GPS you track it to a property ....but it is nowhere within sight or vision. Maybe parked around the back or hidden or ?

Do you have the right to go in there and look?...in garage windows? or would you? Or do you call the cops and will they do the checking? Will they do it and can they do it without a search warrant?

How does that work without this whole deal going south?
I mean if the cops don't immediately act on it, the thief could arguably move the vehicle and then maybe check it for a GPS.
Just wondering how to make that method of tracking (which I like) work.

It might be that the very best 'ending' to a theft is for the vehicle to be immobilized at or near the point of theft where the vehicle shuts down, strands the thief and they bolt....just thinking out loud here.

Some backstory: I had my first '72 Highlander stolen from in front of our house in Toronto 20+ years ago and I racked my brains over what I would do if I found it and the guy who took it. I never did get it back.

Coley

[bigbadchev72]

Originally Posted by Coley

So, here is a question for the GPS tracking system angle:
Let's say the vehicle is stolen and according to the GPS you track it to a property ....but it is nowhere within sight or vision. Maybe parked around the back or hidden or ?

Do you have the right to go in there and look?...in garage windows? or would you? Or do you call the cops and will they do the checking? Will they do it and can they do it without a search warrant?

How does that work without this whole deal going south?
I mean if the cops don't immediately act on it, the thief could arguably move the vehicle and then maybe check it for a GPS.
Just wondering how to make that method of tracking (which I like) work.

It might be that the very best 'ending' to a theft is for the vehicle to be immobilized at or near the point of theft where the vehicle shuts down, strands the thief and they bolt....just thinking out loud here.

Some backstory: I had my first '72 Highlander stolen from in front of our house in Toronto 20+ years ago and I racked my brains over what I would do if I found it and the guy who took it. I never did get it back.

Coley

I will be doing some other theft prevention measures, but nothing is 100% I would rather have gps to at least have a direction to go, I believe they can get a search warrant rather quickly if there is gps

[davepl]

One difference with LoJack is that YOU don't get to track the vehicle, the Police do it. That means you're not going to get yourself in trouble. It also means it's only useful in locations where police have the equipment and know how to use it (and are willing).

I've never been a cop but I'd imagine tracking a stolen vehicle with radio triangulation and going after it is going to be the most interesting part of your day! I don't see why they wouldn't want to.

[jeffahart]

Originally Posted by Coley

So, here is a question for the GPS tracking system angle:
Let's say the vehicle is stolen and according to the GPS you track it to a property ....but it is nowhere within sight or vision. Maybe parked around the back or hidden or ?

Do you have the right to go in there and look?...in garage windows? or would you? Or do you call the cops and will they do the checking? Will they do it and can they do it without a search warrant?

How does that work without this whole deal going south?
I mean if the cops don't immediately act on it, the thief could arguably move the vehicle and then maybe check it for a GPS.
Just wondering how to make that method of tracking (which I like) work.

It might be that the very best 'ending' to a theft is for the vehicle to be immobilized at or near the point of theft where the vehicle shuts down, strands the thief and they bolt....just thinking out loud here.

Some backstory: I had my first '72 Highlander stolen from in front of our house in Toronto 20+ years ago and I racked my brains over what I would do if I found it and the guy who took it. I never did get it back.

Coley

You setup a geofence. Once the tracking device moves out of the perimeter you get an alert. You can then track the movement of the device, whether it's in a vehicle or piece of equipment. Then you meet up with the thief and settle the situation as best fits your personal disposition. You can call the police if you like. But there is one caveat, the GPS coordinates can be slightly off. So you could unload on the old ladies house next door to the the thief! So you do need to actually see the vehicle.... before you start kicking doors! Might makes right! The police probably won't do $hit... there's no revenue in it, unlike handing out tickets, they will drag their feet till the thing is stripped down to dust from the bed wood. And you'll watch the whole thing in slow motion. Lojack, as a service, would likely get the cops engaged at point of discovery, which is very important in vehicle recovery. Good thing is, professional chop shops don't find money in our trucks. So Lenny the drunk will probably just park the truck in his driveway, and you could just go over there, call him a few names, and take the truck back!


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[jjzepplin]

Subbed for info, My wife wants my Blazer for a daily. I figure- at least the ex didn't get it.

[bigbadchev72]

We had some Delphi units that had awesome GPS on them and geofencing. The only problem is it uses a OBD2 port that my fitech unit does not offer

[68Stepbed]

Originally Posted by Steeveedee

Maybe my internet security bolts are torqued down too tight, but I can't seem to find a page that gives prices, or options for trucks.

Call them. His name is Scot.

[87Skier]

I did a lot of research on GPS tracking a few years ago.

The main issue with GPS tracking is that it doesn't work the way it seems like it should. A device with GPS receives 4 time-coded messages. With this, the device can workout length to the satellites and thereby determine location. So most gps devices can only receive messages.

So, how can you send a message or track something? There's all sorts of ways of communicating, but very few that package nicely and work well. This is where cellular communication comes in.

I plan on writing a phone app (or downloading one if it exists) that determines when the ignition is on, then it will send a text every 1 minute with the time and location. From there it will just write to a file that can be reviewed. It would also send emergency messages.

[cleszkie]

Originally Posted by davepl

I do that. I like how you make it sound stupid without substantiating it in any way whatsoever.

If you've got some edge case like an unmonitored zip code you can drive my truck to, allow me to yawn in advance.

So... explain why using LoJack is throwing money away.

Back away from the keyboard. You are missing the point of my remark. I paid to keep a LoJack activated in one of my vehicles for several years. This was before the availability of much more cost effective tracking devices. So to my point - the OP has found a system that will probably work very well, but is concerned that it is too inexpensive. I merely suggested that if he wanted to rid his wallet of more money, he could invest in a LoJack, which, according to what I paid to install mine and the activation fees, is substantially more expensive than the system he has found.

[davepl]

Originally Posted by cleszkie

Back away from the keyboard. You are missing the point of my remark. I paid to keep a LoJack activated in one of my vehicles for several years. This was before the availability of much more cost effective tracking devices. So to my point - the OP has found a system that will probably work very well, but is concerned that it is too inexpensive. I merely suggested that if he wanted to rid his wallet of more money, he could invest in a LoJack, which, according to what I paid to install mine and the activation fees, is substantially more expensive than the system he has found.

It's hard to "miss" the point if you don't state it :-)

Now that you've explained more clearly I would agree with you. Your initial post just came across as "Lojack users = Stupid".

To your point, however, my fundamental concern with LoJack is it's a perpetual cost and I keep my cars forever. I've got LoJack in a car I've had for 49 years, because it's special to me after all this time, but 50 years of fees would add up! Actually I have it in two vehicles.

It does work however... when I took the "spare" keys for my truck that didn't have the fob on it, I got a call a few minutes later that my truck had been moved.