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mtdave2 · 03-20-2002, 03:35 PM

my honda has been acting strange for a month now. beeing a 91 it has all the new fangled crap on it. a guy can never tell wtf is the problem w/o speding 1000000000s of bucks at the shop.

think would (what i call) twitch. maybe im to picky but i want an engine to hum. like huummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. and not hummmmmmmahhhhummmmmmmmmmmmmmmahhmmmmmmhahmmmmmmmmhammmmmmmmmmm. know what i mean? lol

what the hell are those little twitches. misses? mosr engines do that though. even the longhorn.. drive me nuts sometime..the honda has been realy bad. even more so with the a/c on.

so to day i get in her, start it hum, and try to take off. pushing the gas peddle down quickly killed the old girl. only from an
idle. it tap the gas and it would stumble and gasp then run faster. strange as hell..

knowing how things are here, there is a big prob with condensation. so i got some anti water stuff and put it in.. then i did the normal man tests..pull plugs and look at them.. nice, check gap,, good.. pull cap, scrape teminals.. hum.. take all the sparkplug wires off the cap and look at them.. lol. dont know why..look at air filter.. fine...

after the basics, the average poor guy will start wigglin wires, tap on things with the handle of the screwdriver. fianly i saw the 4 bolts to the cap of the fule injection. why not, try to take them off, to tight. normal instinct again, grab a hammer, tap on screwdriver while turning.. didnt work...so i gave up

started the car.. runs great, better than it has in months.. soo, what was it.. water? wires? cap? lol.. hell i dont know.. any of this sound like something you all do?

bouncytruck · 03-20-2002, 03:43 PM

I would guess that your injectors are dirty. You may have knocked some of the dirt loose by banging on it. I would pull the injectors and clean them or at least dump a bottle of injector cleaner in your next tank of gas.

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'69 K-5 Blazer - 350/TH350, 6" lift, 35" tires
Bothell, WA

mtdave2 · 03-20-2002, 03:45 PM

i have dumped several bottles of that stuff in over the last few months.. ok, im going to show how dumb i am now,, you can pull injectors out and clean them? really? lol cool.. if it starts running bad again ill try that

daveo68 · 03-20-2002, 03:51 PM

Must of had a little trash in injectors.I had a 90 model Accord around 175,000 miles it was time to start putting in new sensors also had fuel injectors looked at.Sounded like it was missing. Cost me about $700.00 when they got through and they didn't even use vasoline.
Dave

Woody · 03-20-2002, 03:53 PM

The Dist. Cap!! I got a 90 civic w/ 1.6 liter engine. It ran fine but at idle it stumbles just like you described. Stomp the gas at idle and it coughed and died. Finially got to the point where it would not start if it set outside overnight in the rain. Forced me to do something! Any way I changed the cap, rotor button, and plugs. Probably should have sprung for wires also but I'm cheap... Started right up runs fine. You can still feel the a/c compressor kick on and it stills hick-ups slightly at idle sometimes. May be the idle solnoid (or what ever it uses to adjust the idle) sticking. The cap and button were corroded up and excess moisture gave it fits. Gas milage went up from 23.3mpg to 23.4mpg (avg over several tanks), not much but it did improve.
I have 146,000 miles on mine, replaced timing belt at ~95,000 and it just keeps going and going and going and................

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Woody
'69 Custom-10 Deluxe
Short Fleetside,Factory 350cid/TH400,A/C,PS,PB,Carpet
Coming soon 700R4, 350 Crate Engine, Pwr Disks...

cableguy0 · 03-20-2002, 05:10 PM

there isnt supposed to be anything on the cap terminals to scrape off.i'd got get a new cap and rotor shouldnt cost u more than 15 bucks

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72 chevy lwb 350 lunati cam ported and polished cast 2.02 heads proform hei edelbrock performer rpm and 750 carb balanced bottom end 9.5:1 compression ps,pb th350 with a tci 2500 stall convertor full man v-body kevlar clutches and bands as well as other goodies

Benrs86 · 03-20-2002, 05:28 PM

i know exactly what you are talking about with the hummmmmmmmhummmmmmmmmmmhuhummmmmmm. my sisters, daytona does it and i hate it. i might go mess with it and do what you did.

mtdave2 · 03-20-2002, 05:33 PM

just dont break the radiator! that really sucked...

Vince M · 03-20-2002, 05:37 PM

I've got an 86 that's carbureted that had the same miss. I changed the wires(they were original)the cap, rotor, rebuilt the distributor (the advance didn't work), advanced the timing and went from 32 to 35.5 MPG. Can't beat 'em. I just drive the snot out of it back and forth to work.

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Orlando,FL
72 Chevy 4x4 3/4T CustomCamper w/SB 406

Longhorn Man · 03-20-2002, 11:48 PM

I found on my old '86 Honda Civic Si, (the multi port injected one) when it had the 'variable miss' it was from the timing belt being streached...then later, lookin for more power, i advanced the timing too far and had the exact same thing.

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'69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man
I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it.
Need to pick up the one ton Longhorn with a PONTIAC 350/350soon.
Thanks every one!

Check out The Longhorn Webite.
If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com
Andy, in Columbus Ohio

03-20-2002, 03:35 PM	#1
mtdave2 newly minted old timer Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hudson WI Posts: 3,521	ot. hondas are strange..all the need is a beating my honda has been acting strange for a month now. beeing a 91 it has all the new fangled crap on it. a guy can never tell wtf is the problem w/o speding 1000000000s of bucks at the shop. think would (what i call) twitch. maybe im to picky but i want an engine to hum. like huummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. and not hummmmmmmahhhhummmmmmmmmmmmmmmahhmmmmmmhahmmmmmmmmhammmmmmmmmmm. know what i mean? lol what the hell are those little twitches. misses? mosr engines do that though. even the longhorn.. drive me nuts sometime..the honda has been realy bad. even more so with the a/c on. so to day i get in her, start it hum, and try to take off. pushing the gas peddle down quickly killed the old girl. only from an idle. it tap the gas and it would stumble and gasp then run faster. strange as hell.. knowing how things are here, there is a big prob with condensation. so i got some anti water stuff and put it in.. then i did the normal man tests..pull plugs and look at them.. nice, check gap,, good.. pull cap, scrape teminals.. hum.. take all the sparkplug wires off the cap and look at them.. lol. dont know why..look at air filter.. fine... after the basics, the average poor guy will start wigglin wires, tap on things with the handle of the screwdriver. fianly i saw the 4 bolts to the cap of the fule injection. why not, try to take them off, to tight. normal instinct again, grab a hammer, tap on screwdriver while turning.. didnt work...so i gave up started the car.. runs great, better than it has in months.. soo, what was it.. water? wires? cap? lol.. hell i dont know.. any of this sound like something you all do? __________________ ____________________________________________ 72 c20 longhorn 65k org miles and counting! 69 k10 Suburban

03-20-2002, 03:43 PM	#2
bouncytruck SKINNY TIRES RULE! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 11,049	I would guess that your injectors are dirty. You may have knocked some of the dirt loose by banging on it. I would pull the injectors and clean them or at least dump a bottle of injector cleaner in your next tank of gas. ------------------ '69 K-5 Blazer - 350/TH350, 6" lift, 35" tires Bothell, WA __________________ bouncytruck 1972 K5 The Hauler 1994 K1500 Suburban The Daily2010 Kia Soul Wife's Ride2014 Fiat 500L

03-20-2002, 03:45 PM	#3
mtdave2 newly minted old timer Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hudson WI Posts: 3,521	i have dumped several bottles of that stuff in over the last few months.. ok, im going to show how dumb i am now,, you can pull injectors out and clean them? really? lol cool.. if it starts running bad again ill try that __________________ ____________________________________________ 72 c20 longhorn 65k org miles and counting! 69 k10 Suburban

03-20-2002, 03:51 PM	#4
daveo68 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Lexington,NC Posts: 503	Must of had a little trash in injectors.I had a 90 model Accord around 175,000 miles it was time to start putting in new sensors also had fuel injectors looked at.Sounded like it was missing. Cost me about $700.00 when they got through and they didn't even use vasoline. Dave __________________ 68 C-10 Custom LWB 307 V8 Lexington,NC davideowens@lexcominc.net God Bless America

03-20-2002, 05:10 PM	#6
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,950	there isnt supposed to be anything on the cap terminals to scrape off.i'd got get a new cap and rotor shouldnt cost u more than 15 bucks ------------------ 72 chevy lwb 350 lunati cam ported and polished cast 2.02 heads proform hei edelbrock performer rpm and 750 carb balanced bottom end 9.5:1 compression ps,pb th350 with a tci 2500 stall convertor full man v-body kevlar clutches and bands as well as other goodies __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

03-20-2002, 03:53 PM	#5
Woody Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Georgetown, KY, USA Posts: 631	The Dist. Cap!! I got a 90 civic w/ 1.6 liter engine. It ran fine but at idle it stumbles just like you described. Stomp the gas at idle and it coughed and died. Finially got to the point where it would not start if it set outside overnight in the rain. Forced me to do something! Any way I changed the cap, rotor button, and plugs. Probably should have sprung for wires also but I'm cheap... Started right up runs fine. You can still feel the a/c compressor kick on and it stills hick-ups slightly at idle sometimes. May be the idle solnoid (or what ever it uses to adjust the idle) sticking. The cap and button were corroded up and excess moisture gave it fits. Gas milage went up from 23.3mpg to 23.4mpg (avg over several tanks), not much but it did improve. I have 146,000 miles on mine, replaced timing belt at ~95,000 and it just keeps going and going and going and................ ------------------ Woody '69 Custom-10 Deluxe Short Fleetside,Factory 350cid/TH400,A/C,PS,PB,Carpet Coming soon 700R4, 350 Crate Engine, Pwr Disks...

03-20-2002, 05:28 PM	#7
Benrs86 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Brandon, SD, USA Posts: 1,292	i know exactly what you are talking about with the hummmmmmmmhummmmmmmmmmmhuhummmmmmm. my sisters, daytona does it and i hate it. i might go mess with it and do what you did. __________________ Brandon, SD 69 GMC 1/2 ton 2wd wide long bed with wood 3 on the tree 350 engine 4 bolt main rv cam AIM = Alphray04

03-20-2002, 05:33 PM	#8
mtdave2 newly minted old timer Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hudson WI Posts: 3,521	just dont break the radiator! that really sucked... __________________ ____________________________________________ 72 c20 longhorn 65k org miles and counting! 69 k10 Suburban

03-20-2002, 05:37 PM	#9
Vince M Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,076	I've got an 86 that's carbureted that had the same miss. I changed the wires(they were original)the cap, rotor, rebuilt the distributor (the advance didn't work), advanced the timing and went from 32 to 35.5 MPG. Can't beat 'em. I just drive the snot out of it back and forth to work. ------------------ Orlando,FL 72 Chevy 4x4 3/4T CustomCamper w/SB 406 __________________ ............................................................ 68 Chevy CST SWB w/LS1, carb & 700r4. Golden Anniversary clone with a few improvements.

03-20-2002, 11:48 PM	#10
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	I found on my old '86 Honda Civic Si, (the multi port injected one) when it had the 'variable miss' it was from the timing belt being streached...then later, lookin for more power, i advanced the timing too far and had the exact same thing. ------------------ '69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it. Need to pick up the one ton Longhorn with a PONTIAC 350/350soon. Thanks every one! Check out The Longhorn Webite. If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com Andy, in Columbus Ohio

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